hi im sorry if i posted it in the wrong section but i want to ask for help or just advice about
the current situation of my FC.
the master of our FC recently stopped playing and one by one other members started to leave or quit. suddenly(yesterday) the next person who became master(automatic change of master position if offline for 36days(was it 36?))
(although im an older member and had a higher position but because of some private problem,etc i wasnt able to play FFXIV for 3 months feb->april(FC was made sometime 2013 august))i was one of the members who 1st entered the fc when it was made, all founders currently hiatus or quitted which makes me the oldest member left.)also the current master before she became the master had a higher position than me when i came back.
the next master suddenly said that she will quit once her subscription ends and wants to
break-up the guild. we have a medium house lot which of course i had money invested.
this next master didnt talk to me and when i talked to her she said that she already talked it out with the other two members. and agreed for the break up. even though i didnt agree for the break-up i tried to persuade her to stop. almost for 5-6 hrs. she suddenly started ignoring me so i contacted the old master and asked for helped, of course he agreed, and when i talked to the current master again and told him that the old master didnt want to break up the guild too, it became an argument and she said she doesnt care.
the argument escalated up to her kicking all the other members. and in the end including me. said she would continue the fc but with other friends*. i just wanted to protect the FC for the other members who might comeback because of 2.3 and i got kicked.
is there something i can do about these..?
it feels sad that i just wanted to protect the FC and this is what i get.
any help or advice is greatly appreciated.
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07-03-2014, 01:46 AMken00FC Related Question Please Help.
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07-03-2014, 01:50 AMKimikryo
sadly? no you won't be able to do anything.
Welcome to some FC "masters" whose "might" grew over their head which they need to show now.
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07-03-2014, 01:52 AMNero
Report him/her. To me it sounds more like "stealing" the house, including the currency/furnitures. Does not matter if that person is currently FC Leader or not, it is straight against ToS.
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07-03-2014, 01:52 AMClavaat
I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, there is not much you can do. Aside from asking for the Master role, instead of disbanding completely, that was the person in control and has the final say. The best you can do is move on, and try to find something that works for you, and what you wanted out of an FC. Try to join some LS', keep in touch with those that come back.
At the end of the day, this is a social game. It requires people to work together and have mutual understandings. Things happen, people will be people. It's up to you, the person, to decide where you go from here. Best of luck to you. -
07-03-2014, 01:55 AMmicropanther7
Sorry Ken, but Kimikryo is right :/ I'm really sorry that this happened to you and your FC mates, I would suggest forming your own FC *hugs*
Edited to add: Clavaat brings up a good point, about you being assigned the position of master. but Nero also could be correct sadly, it's proving it that would be the problem, but it is reportable, I forgot about that! -
07-03-2014, 02:11 AMken00
thanks everyone for the reply. it greatly saddens me that it have to happen this way. what i wanted was just to protect the FC where my old mates could come back and have a place to relax too. i will try my shot at the report though and hope that something could be done about it.
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07-03-2014, 02:11 AMSadana
From what I've heard, SE does not get involved in any FC "drama" (even harassment) :/
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07-03-2014, 02:14 AMClavaatI think it depends. If there was a real discussion, and no one was verbally attacked or things were stolen, then it would simply become a "he said/she said". If the chat logs can prove something otherwise, then you may have a case, wouldn't hurt to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadana
That still would not bring the FC back if it has been disbanded, unfortunately. Like I said before, it would still be to you to pick up the pieces and decide where you go from there. -
07-03-2014, 02:17 AMSadana
Yeah, sometimes I wonder if more than a few FC "leaders" behave badly in order to get rid of everyone and have the FC house, coffer, etc just for themselves and their friends. :( I've discussed this on the blogs after hearing some stories similar to the OP's. :/
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07-03-2014, 02:19 AMken00
the FC is still alive and i Screen shotted our conversation.
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07-03-2014, 02:20 AMKimikryo
You know why it is not stealing, in no form?
Because the old master disappeared, a new one was assigned, than a new one. This one decided he wants to lead the FC differently.
Bring this to a GM and he will say "I am sorry. But if the new FC master decided to change how his FC is now lead. I can't do anything" :-/ -
07-03-2014, 02:23 AMken00he didnt want to lead it at first and just want to break up the FC although when he knew that the old Master said he doesnt want the FC to disappear she suddenly changed her mind and said she doesnt want to be in the same FC as me and proceeded to kick all members except for some plus meQuote:
Originally Posted by Kimikryo
soooo i guess i cant do anything about it then.. well on the good note i succeeded on keeping the FC alive only without me.. we can say i both gained and loss something -
07-03-2014, 02:24 AMNeroQuote:
Originally Posted by Sadana
It really depends on the circumstances. If someone disbanded the FC to get hold of the house/Items for himself, regardless of his position in his FC, we would talk about scaming. Scaming is Inappropriate Behavior by SE's ToS for the Game and can result in permanent bans. IF it can be proven by a GM via Chatlog that this was the intention of said person, then SE could take action. And no, it is not "his" FC, technically you do not even owe "your" own Character by definition of the ToS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimikryo
As far as i understood, that person did not disband the FC, but kicked out everyone kept himself. You could check via Lodestone ( no don't say the name here ), if he is still the only one or not. -
07-03-2014, 02:24 AMKimikryosadly, that's her good right, because it its her little monarchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken00
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07-03-2014, 02:30 AMken00disband sched. was 2014/7/04 the last active member was me and herself. although i am also trying to persuade our old members to comeback for 2.3. sadly there is no need for that anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nero
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07-03-2014, 02:31 AMmicropanther7Well at least you can see something positive in the situation, I really wish you lots of luck and left you a little gift :) (if only it really worked :p)Quote:
Originally Posted by ken00
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07-03-2014, 02:39 AMken00thanks a lot micropanther7 wished i had that earlier though..could have tried using it..(（；_；）)Quote:
Originally Posted by micropanther7
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07-03-2014, 02:48 AMLithera
Had an old FC go down a similar route. Leader bailed out and passed Leader to a new person. New leader, with barely a word beforehand to anyone, brokered a merger with another FC. A week later she kicked everyone and I believe sold the FC to someone else as she left for the new FC (that my wife and I wanted no part of) since the FC still existed but with three characters that were never in the FC before that appeared to me to all belong to the same person. Some of us gladly would have kept the FC going if the leader wanted to bail, but no she handed someone basically their own rank 8 solo FC and Medium personal house... (The FC STILL exists over a month later with just those 3 same named chars)