Concerns about the state of the game.

Hey, I am just curious for people\\'s opinions on the future of this game. The class/ job system is just horribly limiting and it sucks to get 5 skills for your job and it sucks that if you lvl the class to 50, and jobs branching off are allllll at 50.... It destroys longevity. No one will need to level things ever again. And the content they spit out seems to go obsolete in no time. I just came back to the game after a while and already no one is doing garuda, ifrit, labyrinthe, titan, t1, t2.... This is all supposed to be endgame stuff but apparently it\\'s done with? Your only hope for that content is to use df.... This kind of stuff makes me nervous. How will the game survive and continue to be fun when content is swallowed and excreted and done with a month after release?

I am wondering how others feel about this. I can only pray an expansion could solve these problems but so much would need reworking I highly doubt they will change that much.

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It's great. If people only come here to do high end raids till they get their gear then sit around twiddling their thumbs then that's on them. SE has more demographics to cater to in the game all of whom like and want different things from the game.

I think the pace of content has been awesome and I'm very happy with the current state of it. Each point update has been solid and even the half point updates have brought substantial QoL changes and new features. 3.0 is said to have as much content as 2.0 had so things are gonna bet even bigger really soon.

I have more than enough to keep me busy, sold gear, animus, beast quests, choco lvling, commerce. Being part of the economy is more rewarding for me than most things in the game and I probably have enough gil to buy a large house when they hit. The more you get involved with the MMO world the better your experience will be. Come here for the latest ipeen gear only and your time will be short lived and shallow IMHO.

People are stil doing all the things you said except for CT, and that as nothing to do with SE.

I am Hamelin Rattenfanger and my opinion is very important and much more true then other opinions!

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All in all i am very happy with the content :)

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Originally Posted by Moqi

People are stil doing all the things you said except for CT, and that as nothing to do with SE.

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people are still doing ct, mostly for vanity i guess. was in there 2 times as bard this weekend, less than 20mins waittime.

if you are talking about hm garuda and ifrit, no one does those except on roulette. as for t1 and t2, people still do them, just not as often because there are other things to do, like working on animus/novus, 2ndcoil, and ex farming. a quick look at your chr shows that you dropped for quite a while, and have yet to open up some of the things i said people are doing. long story short, you got left behind in content and dont have many people to do the things you are at with.

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Originally Posted by Darko

people are still doing ct, mostly for vanity i guess. was in there 2 times as bard this weekend, less than 20mins waittime.

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Spiritbonding and the 150 Myth more likely.

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Originally Posted by Bawnawgwa

Hey, I am just curious for people\\'s opinions on the future of this game. The class/ job system is just horribly limiting and it sucks to get 5 skills for your job and it sucks that if you lvl the class to 50, and jobs branching off are allllll at 50.... It destroys longevity

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Jobs are specs of the classes (as a 1.23 player you should know this)
New class to level up is coming with 2.4

I was thinking about class/job also...and it's not really terrible.
Class is basically your skill with using a particular wep, like Lance(er) As a Dragoon, you use spears too, and any other job they may add, who use spears.
If they removed class system, then you'd have just DRG, and other spear Job...but it wouldn't make sense if you suddenly didn't know how to use a spear, just because you're another job.
You go to LNC guild, and become a trainee, and learn how to use a spear; and regardless of what spear-job-stone you equip, they both are based on your skill as a lancer.
It's not the jobs that lv up, its your class that lv up. The better lancer you are, the better dragoon you are. You use your lancer skills to overcome challenges, and unlock the power of the dragoon stone. If you didn't train as LNC, then all you'd have was jump...that wouldn't be effective...
If they add another spear job, you don't lv up that JOB, you're already an accomplished lancer (if you capped) so the new job use those skills too.
They may increase lv cap, and you might get lots of good job skills, and end up not using LNC skills, anymore; but they are still the basic skills, you learned as a lancer trainee.

There are problems though ofc.
Such as with GLD...it's really not gonna be possible to branch off a DD from GLD, because it's so heavily focused on tanking. If they branched off into a DD, then the DD would have access to:
Rampart, 20% reduced damage taken
Convalescence: increase healing received by 30%
Awareness: cant get critted
Sentinel: reduce damage taken by 40%
Bulwark: Increase block rate by 60%
Fight or Flight: increase damage by 30% (stack that with B4B and/or Raging Strike)
You'd basically be both a tank and DD...and that's quite OP.
The only way to fix it, is to rework GLD from scratch, with multiple jobs in mind (which they didn't, when they first designed the classes) They did with ACN though, which is why it wasn't to difficult to branch into a healer and a DD.
They could ofc scrap classes, but then we'd have the issue i mentioned earlier, and also: If they had made SMN and SCH, without class, then they would probably have designed both SMN and SCH differently. SMN maybe wouldn't have been a dot based job, and who knows what attack spells SCH would have had. Point is, they would have had to make 17 unique skills, and 8 traits, for each job. Which would be 2x more than what we have. And why do that, when (in this game) both SMN and SCH, have the same basic training? The only thing that sets them apart, is what they learned from their respective Job Stones; and that's just a bonus repertoire to ACN skills.

Also, they will increase lv cap, so you'll need to lv again.
Also, they will add Rogue, which means you'll need to lv that from 1-50 (or soon to be new lv cap, whatever it might be) And they'll add more classes (they will have to, cause most of the current classes, are poorly designed, for multiple jobs system)

Those dead content you mentioned, are easily beaten nowdays. Find some FC, and it won't be difficult to get a bunch of ppl, to take you trough. We took a new person through primals, and T1-4, in one evening.
Even DF/roulette, can fairly easily get through primals/T1-4. And there's PF too.

Well you're not really umm giving any constructive feedback with that op....

I seriously miss having horisontal progression in this game when it comes to gear for example.
They should do relic upgrade quests to other pieces of relic set too.

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Originally Posted by Ahmbor

I am Hamelin Rattenfanger and my opinion is very important and much more true then other opinions!

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didnt realize i stepped into a 3rd grade classroom, carry on children.

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Originally Posted by Heavy01Mk2

didnt realize i stepped into a 3rd grade classroom, carry on children.

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You have to realize that posts like the OP's are becoming very tired for the majority of Forum Goers on almost any Gaming Website (even for games such as Dungeons and Dragons and Magic the Gathering which have been around for decades, since before even World of Warcraft at that, but are still plagued by this kind of thing). So really seeing this kind of post on a game that isn't even a year old yet is kind of annoying.

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Originally Posted by Kaze3434

if you are talking about hm garuda and ifrit, no one does those except on roulette.

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Weird, there still are pf's up for those, people still have fun farming those two. it could be you mean story mode?

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Originally Posted by Tharian

You have to realize that posts like the OP's are becoming very tired for the majority of Forum Goers on almost any Gaming Website (even for games such as Dungeons and Dragons and Magic the Gathering which have been around for decades, since before even World of Warcraft at that, but are still plagued by this kind of thing). So really seeing this kind of post on a game that isn't even a year old yet is kind of annoying.

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what i do realize is... that this place is a forum. i dont even know why i come here, its like drinking bleach without the pleasure of dying.

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Originally Posted by Kimikryo

Weird, there still are pf's up for those, people still have fun farming those two. it could be you mean story mode?

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for hard mode? thats surprising. most pf i see are for ex stuff or recruiting for second coil.

Game has been in a bad state since launch. Nothing can be done cus this is the direction they want to take with their game.
This game has been always been mainly about the boss fights rather then enjoying going through the dungeon. Game design and planning it well has been poor in every patch. Look of the content looks great but playing it, not so much.

SE should consider adding in random elements that change pathway/monster layout of the dungeon.
Running Nyrule Isle in XI was always enjoyable because the objective and layout always changed. Once content becomes predictable it becomes boring.

Out of all the concerns I have regarding the game the three that I think are feasibly fixable would be -

Lack of Horizontal Gear Progression/Stat layouts on gear being too linear

Lack of End Game Content of Equal "Weight" or Value (Lack Horizontal End Game)

Armory system too limiting in terms of expansion of the job/class pool