Problems with FPS

Hello,

I'm not really sure if I'm on the right section, if not please let me know.

So I was playing with everything on max without any problem with my fps, but for some reason now I barely can reach 20 fps.

I've done my research about it, the main reasons would be my pc being too hot, driver not updated, HD problem, corrupted files, bad hadware.

I checked it all, still nothing seems to be the problem.

I was used to run the game nicely so my hardware should be ok.
The hotest my graphic card reached was 70°C on BF4, proc max at 60°C and mobo at 40°C.
I've download the game 3 times already just to make sure it isn't the files nor the HD.
I formated my PC and installed all drives twice.

Someone knows anything that could be doing the problem? Turn the specs lows doesn't seems to help that much, unless I go way low to the lower graphics then I can reach some stable fps

My PC specs
FX-8350
8GB Ram
GTX 770

Ty

I have no solution but this started happening to me last night too. I'd been running the game on max since release with no problems then when I logged on yesterday my fps was insanely choppy. My graphics card was at 56C but we cooled that down, dont know what it is normally. We turned down some of my graphics (shadow detail and water reflections namely) and it improved my FPS without really making the game look all that different. It was specifically when I was by water that I had issues, once I turned the camera so water wasnt in view (I was in the goblet) FPS shot up.

Do you own a Nvidea card too? Maybe it's something related with Nvidea.
I read at other forums that at release some driver versions could decrease your fps, maybe they just hit again with they last driver =/

I dont think I have nvidia (Im at work atm so cant check, and Im having a mindblank) but I hadnt downloaded any new driver recently

Weird,


Well I've done some tests with another computer, one a bit weaker than mine and it was running pretty decent the game.

It's an

Phenom X6 3.2GHz
ATI HD 6850 (Without the proper diver intalled, only with the windows default)
2GB Ram

At max was running at 40FPS.

I have always been reading that Nvidia cards seems to have some kind of "compatibility" issues with FFXIV. The card looks decent and should run fine, especially given that yours is a GTX 770 it should have no problem going over 50FPS at max 1080p settings.

I can't tell for sure thou, I'm running a Radeon R9 290 OC. Haven't heard of FPS issues with Radeon cards for FFXIV.

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Originally Posted by Unamed

Turn the specs lows doesn't seems to help that much, unless I go way low to the lower graphics then I can reach some stable fps

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I too run on max since release, except my fps problem started around November last year and has been constant since then :/ No problems before that. I tried lowering mine too, to see if maybe that'd help, nothing.
PC is pretty much brand new and can easily run graphic intense games/mmos without a problem.

It just seems to be only XIV that it's doing it on and seeing as how it never did it for the first few months of release, I'm starting to think it's a problem on SE's side. I mean sure, it doesn't really effect gameplay, no lag or anything like that, it's just kinda crappy to look at it skipping frames while moving around / casting / etc, especially considering the amount of money I dropped into this PC to run the new/upcoming stuff on max lol Not to mention it ruins some good CS' with the crap fps :/

Also side note, has anyone else been experiencing increased load times lately? Before I could easily load into Mor Dhona in a second or two, now it seems to take up to 20-30 seconds to load in, even with less people there than a few months ago. Sometimes it gets caught up on random zones, sometimes it's fine. Never had that problem before until about two weeks ago.

Strangely when I got home and logged on today my fps seemed fine. I am checking speedfan right now and my graphics card is only at 30c after being on for a few hours now as opposed to yesterday where only about 10 mins after I turned on my pc and logged in game it overheated suddenly. I don't know if something in the game somehow caused it or it was just total coincidence for me, though it is strange that things ran smooth on max then all of a sudden FPS issues started.

I have 2x GTX 760's in SLI and i havent had any FPS issues so i wouldnt say for sure that its an Nvidia problem. I also have a pc the is running 2x GTX 460's in SLI and that one runs great too. 460's are running at 1920x1080 and the 760's at 2560x1080.

Edit: Both on max settings btw.

Check your graphics card drivers. Most people play either with some outdated driver or they install the new on top of the old and this creates problems some times. Download the latest stable driver from Nvidia site or AMD depending on your card. Uninstall your old driver restart PC and install the new one.

Happened to me as well. I had an m14x that was going just great, and all of a sudden an inexplicable frame rate drop in only this game. I tend to not update drivers unless something is broken, so it wasn't a driver change, and my temps were the same as they ever were - just around 70c ish. Nvidia 555m. I ended up getting rid of the notebook in favor of a more powerful y510p with 755 sli (that shreds the game, btw, though it could be just muscling through whatever was bad before), but it was definitely something weird that changed within XIV. If it happens to this machine I will likely take more time to research it more.

Ty for your replys.
And I sayed before, I'm 100% sure my drivers are updated.

I know for sure isn't low performace of the hardware, once I can run Battlefield 4 on ultra without any problems, so I kind think it can't be anything related with my computer, must be or something within FFXIV or another thing they use.

My temp running FFXIV is graphic card not even reach 60°C and my Processor barely get over 30°C so I think they aren't been used at they full speed for some reason.

question, you havent stated where your frames drops occur, 4 man instances, 8 man, ct 24 man or rev toll or areas with lots of people.
if you are getting massive frame drops in instances, then something is wrong, if you are getting massive frame drops in crowded areas, well thats normal and nothing at the mo can be done about it.

It happens anywhere, literally. If Im facing the ground I get low frame rates. I wouldn't dare to enter on a 24 man =)

Hey something simple that might be something to check. A lot of intel computers even with a nvidia card have an intel hd video built in as well and you can screw up windows settings on a per program basis to run with the intel video instead of your real card. Any chance that happened?

edit* note this is pretty much a laptop issue if you have a desktop disregard.

Nops. My Mother board doesn't have an APU, so it has only one graphic output, the GTX 770 , besides nothing on my computer belongs or have anything with intel xP. I'm using an AMD processor.

I found a benchmark called "Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark". I run it at the max setings and got a result of 6628,does that score is good? If not how much it should be?

Thx guys for all the replys.

Downloading the benchmark currently will run it on my system and let you know to give you an idea.
My system is a
i7
8gb ram
nvidia gtx 860m

Ok got it running, here's the results

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FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Benchmark (Character Creation)
Tested on:6/26/2014 7:26:19 PM
Score:6242
Average Framerate:50.849
Performance:Very High
-Easily capable of running the game. Should perform exceptionally well, even at higher resolutions.

Screen Size: 1920x1080
Screen Mode: Full Screen
Graphics Presets: Maximum
General
-Enable HDR rendering and improve overall graphic quality. : Enabled
-Disable rendering of objects when not visible. (Occlusion Culling) : Disabled
-Use low-detail models on distant objects. (LOD) : Disabled
-Cache LOD data only when necessary. (LOD Streaming) : Disabled
-Real-time Reflections : High
-Edge Smoothing (Anti-aliasing) : FXAA
-Transparent Lighting Quality : High
-Grass Quality : High
Shadows
-Self : Display
-Other NPCs : Display
Shadow Quality
-Use low-detail models on shadows. (LOD) : Disabled
-Shadow Resolution : High - 2048p
-Shadow Cascading : Best
-Shadow Softening : Strong
Texture Detail
-Texture Filtering : Anisotropic
-Anisotropic Filtering : x16
Movement Physics
-Self : Full
-Other NPCs : Full
Effects
-Naturally darken the edges of the screen. (Limb Darkening) : Enabled
-Blur the graphics around an object in motion. (Radial Blur) : Enabled
-Screen Space Ambient Occlusion : Strong
-Glare : Normal
Cinematic Cutscenes
-Enable depth of field. : Enabled

System:
Windows 8.1 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (9600.winblue_gdr.140305-1710)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz
8074.957MB
Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600(VRAM 4020 MB) 10.18.0010.3379

Benchmark results do not provide any guarantee FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn will run on your system.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: A Realm Reborn Official Website http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com
(C) 2010-2013 SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD. All Rights Reserved.

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http://sqex.to/ffxiv_bench_na #FFXIV Score:6242 1920x1080 Maximum Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4700HQ CPU @ 2.40GHz Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600

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Important thing to note, I got 6242 and I couldn't get the test program to use my nvidia card it would only use the intel hd video unlike the real game. So I'd say those results are pretty poor.

how do you even put the wholee spec here? I can't do it =/


Soo I'm really using my Nvidia card and still have that results =/

that's an notebook, are you sure that isn't a problem with the driver label? Regardless.

Any reason for my video card being that bad in the benchmark?

ty for your reply!

I haven't had consistent frame drops, but I always get HORRIBLE framerate crashes during the 2nd boss of Brayflox hard mode.
Very strange.

I usually have a constant 40+, but after about 5 mins fighting him, I get drops to 2-5 fps that last 10+ seconds at a time.
It only happens during that fight. I get worse frame drops in that fight than I did when I fought Odin.

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Originally Posted by Unamed

how do you even put the wholee spec here? I can't do it =/


Soo I'm really using my Nvidia card and still have that results =/

that's an notebook, are you sure that isn't a problem with the driver label? Regardless.

Any reason for my video card being that bad in the benchmark?

ty for your reply!

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To put the whole spec in, I clicked save which brought it up in notepad, then copied and pasted it with "[quote][./quote]" around it. Ignore the . in the quote block wanted to make sure it wouldn't actualy make a quote block.

I'm relatively sure that it wasn't a driver issue as I've used similar programs for benchmarks in the past and they read the nvidia correctly, specifically the one for the newest resident evil. I could be wrong but I think it really did use the intel video.

Well accourding with this link http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/ ( It's from square itself) the benchmark perform should follow this table at the end of the link, I don't copu it here cuz the characters limit.


So with an 6.6k I should at least look at the ground, I think.


Do you guys are using windows 8? Do you guys are using SSD, cuz I'm not so maybe that's the problem =/

Btw: Ty Kerberon, but I tryed that and I get over the text character limits oO.

edit your initial post, and you get arround that limit.

I just got an notice about steam,

It seems they had fixed some problem with the D3D for users that use an NVIDEA 650+ with the lastest drive (My case). I'm re-downloading the game again just to test that.

So maybe the problem was caused by steam not the FFXIV. If it's that the case I'll update here with later results.


Ty everyone for the help so far =)

Quick question, do you use any 3rd party software? Like xfire or raptr?

Nops, I just used steam cuz it's fairly usefull to get the games =), or for example Origin to get some EA games, but never thought they can actually decrease my performace oO.

I decided to download the game by the square servers to make sure.

I notice that I was having some reallly heave problems as well on others game steam related, like "Dust an Elysian Tail"...

I'm more than sure I really can run that game >_<

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Originally Posted by Unamed

Nops, I just used steam cuz it's fairly usefull to get the games =), or for example Origin to get some EA games, but never thought they can actually decrease my performace oO.

I decided to download the game by the square servers to make sure.

I notice that I was having some reallly heave problems as well on others game steam related, like "Dust an Elysian Tail"...

I'm more than sure I really can run that game >_<

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There were some compatability issues between FF14 and raptr some time ago, that also happened with xfire and other programs.. something is probably colliding with your steam client

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Originally Posted by Unamed

Well accourding with this link http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/benchmark/ ( It's from square itself) the benchmark perform should follow this table at the end of the link, I don't copu it here cuz the characters limit.


So with an 6.6k I should at least look at the ground, I think.


Do you guys are using windows 8? Do you guys are using SSD, cuz I'm not so maybe that's the problem =/

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Yup that should cause you some problem.

I run a i7-4770, Gigabyte R9 290 OC 4GB GDDR5, 16GB RAM G.Skill Ripjaws-X DDR3-2133, Win8.1, Samsung EVO SSD. Max settings benchmark score 14k plus.

Your GTX 770 should do better than 6.6K, 6.6K is like scores on a high end gaming laptop (ie sports a single GTX-860/870M)

The problem is with the game.

I run a i7-4770k with a QUAD SLI EVGA TITAN SC and when I use all 4 cards I get 25% average usage per card. When I switch to a single Titan I get 99% usage.......

I mostly built this computer for FFXIV so I am not too happy that I spent over $4000 on graphics cards :(

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Originally Posted by onisama

The problem is with the game.

I run a i7-4770k with a QUAD SLI EVGA TITAN SC and when I use all 4 cards I get 25% average usage per card. When I switch to a single Titan I get 99% usage.......

I mostly built this computer for FFXIV so I am not too happy that I spent over $4000 on graphics cards :(

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You playing with 4K monitors for FFXIV? But even so max reso per screen is 1440p, unless you play with 3 of such resolution monitors. Even so with 3 1440p monitors, 4x GTX Titan for this game is plain overkill and anyways FFXIV does not support SLI nor Crossfire yet.

Wow It was indeed the steam.



I'm now reaching 60 fps, not as regular as I think it should, but it's playable. So my reallllly bad fps was cause by steam.

Still The game has something wrong with it. it isn't stressing my video card AT ALL. playing other games it reach at least 60°C temp, but on FFXIV it barealy pass 50°C something is really wrong withtin the game.

Gonna try some stuff to see if I can increase the Video card usage.

But mostly problem solved, was the steam.

Ty everyone.

I use a 4k screen. Most the time I run @ 4k but even when I use 1080/120 the game will only use about 25% of the GPU's. When I use a single card then it will run 99%.

Sadly all the other games I play have no such issues.

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Originally Posted by onisama

I use a 4k screen. Most the time I run @ 4k but even when I use 1080/120 the game will only use about 25% of the GPU's. When I use a single card then it will run 99%.

Sadly all the other games I play have no such issues.

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That's because ff14 arr uses a directx 9 client with no support for multiple graphics cards. Trying to use multiple cards with crossfire etc is a waste of time because there is no support for it and it does not work, period.

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Originally Posted by Kerberon

That's because ff14 arr uses a directx 9 client with no support for multiple graphics cards. Trying to use multiple cards with crossfire etc is a waste of time because there is no support for it and it does not work, period.

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Originally Posted by onisama

I use a 4k screen. Most the time I run @ 4k but even when I use 1080/120 the game will only use about 25% of the GPU's. When I use a single card then it will run 99%.

Sadly all the other games I play have no such issues.

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Plus, why are you so insistent to see your card running at 99%? If the game isn't that resource intensive, it won't use that amount of resources, period. :rolleyes: