Skill adjustments for PvP

Yoshi has already commented there will be skill adjustments for PvP, for both PvE-original skills and PvP-specific skills. So I thought we could talk about what changes we wanted to see. These are just a few things I would like to see adjusted:


WAR/MRD
The skill "Holmgang" no longer binds the caster.
The skill "Berserk" no longer has the Pacification effect after skill effect ends.

PLD
The skill "Cover" now calculates damage taken by the PLD using the PLD's defense rating instead of the target's defense rating.
The skill "Hallowed Ground" now takes effect immediately, not after a 2-seconds animation.

DRG
The skills "Dragonfire Dive" and "Spineshatter Dive" now inflict the effect of Bind, not Stun.

MNK
The skill "Shoulder Tackle" now inflicts the effect of Bind, not Stun.
The skill "Arm of the Destroyer" now has a 5 second CD in PvP.
The skill "Blood for Blood" has the damage inflicted on caster penalty decreased to +10%.

BRD
The skill "Blunt Arrow" now takes effect immediately, not after a 2-seconds animation.
The skill "Blood for Blood" has the damage inflicted on caster penalty decreased to +10%.
The skill "Shadowbind" has it's duration increased to 20 seconds in PvP.

BLM
The skill "Equanimity" is no longer available.

SMN
The skill "Equanimity" is no longer available.
The skills "Fester" and "Bane" are now subject to Diminishing Returns, each subsequent cast has effectiveness reduced by 50% on a 60 seconds timer.
The cooldown of "Aetherflow" is increased to 120 seconds in PvP.

SCH
The skill "Bane" is now subject to Diminishing Returns, each subsequent cast has effectiveness reduced by 50% on a 60 seconds timer.
The cooldown of "Aetherflow" is increased to 120 seconds in PvP.
The pets "Eos" and "Selene" can now have their casting interrupted on physical damage.
The skill "Leeches" can now be casted immediately on the target.

WHM
The skill "Esuna" can now be casted immediately on the target.
The skill "Benediction" now takes effect immediately, not after a 2-seconds animation.

SCH
The skill "Bane" is now subject to Diminishing Returns, each subsequent cast has effectiveness reduced by 50% on a 60 seconds timer.
The cooldown of "Aetherflow" is increased to 120 seconds in PvP.
The pets "Eos" and "Selene" can now have their casting interrupted on physical damage.
The skill "Leeches" can now be casted immediately on the target.

WHM
The skill "Esuna" can now be casted immediately on the target.
The skill "Benediction" now takes effect immediately, not after a 2-seconds animation.


Lol are you serious ;D the whm will be rly better than sch if they do this

lol this would severely make melee dps too OP. there is a reason why casters have Equanimity. man i really want to say "learn to play", none of these change make the game balance at all. this is just a flimsy "melee is too weak, please buff us and nerf casters dps" thread.

btw you can have Equanimity, when casters no longer can be interrupted by a hit.

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Originally Posted by Illya

Yoshi has already commented there will be skill adjustments for PvP, for both PvE-original skills and PvP-specific skills. So I thought we could talk about what changes we wanted to see. These are just a few things I would like to see adjusted :

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OMG, what are you doing ? It's pvp skills based (purify, mythril tempest, aetheric burst etc...).

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Yoshida : When Frontline is released there will also be a complete overhaul to almost all of the PvP skills.

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Originally Posted by Illya

WAR/MRD
The skill "Holmgang" no longer binds the caster.
The skill "Berserk" no longer has the Pacification effect after skill effect ends.

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Close to your pict, we see "Main Class MARAUDER Lv 50", why am I not surprised ?

Are you trying to making Mrd's broken as hell? Because it looks that way

MRD: You want to give a high damage class even more buffs, lol

PLD: the cover change would do nothing as there would be cases where the paladin would have less defence stats than the person he covers, due to morale being the defence stat

DRG: You might aswell remove the CC effect altogether, as bind is instantly removed if you hit the target again

MNK: shoulder tackle would be a small buff to the initial burst in paladin teams, as the paladins 10 second stun isnt halved because of shoulder tackle, but might be a cool change

AotD has 2.5s cooldown anyway, only inflicts 1s silence, i dont see why it needs a nerf

BforB 30% damage boost for 10% damage taken?, thats a stupidly crazy buff

BRD: I dont see an issue with these changes, apart from the BforB one

BLM/SMN Equanimity: so you basically want to make BLM's entirely useless unless they have to burn swift and surecast, no, this is retarded

SCH: I dont really see why aetherflow needs to be nerfed at all, if you are going to nerf eos you might aswell do the same to the -egi summons

WHM: Esuna has a fast enough cast time to the point where its rarely getting interuppted, so i dont see the point in this

I would really really love the ability to rate down threads here. Garbage, pretty much all of it.

LMFAO, you've got to be trolling with this statement lmao.. You're a MRD & WHM.

Not even going to argue with you because this post has no relevance behind this.

You do realize whm has Fluid Aura/Bind/Regen/Medica II (if the use it) Repose- Cross Class Blizzard II

SCH= Blizzard II (Cross Class) LOL and you want to increase their Aetherflow.... your all kinds of something.. LOL. Back to playing my game eaz

Expect drastic reductions in crowd control durations, not increases. They already confirmed that sleep is getting toned down and 20 second shadowbind would be super dumb.

Instant cast dispels make sense to me. Always worked fine in other games from my experience, I find it strange they have a cast time in this one.

I think marauder is going to be much less useful in frontlines than wolves' den since its sustained dps is so bad. So I'm a bit worried that it's going to get hit with the nerf bat due to its power in Wolves' Den, which will effectively cease to exist in 2.3.

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Originally Posted by Edenlys

Close to your pict, we see "Main Class MARAUDER Lv 50", why am I not surprised ?

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he only plays bard in PVP, so I guess the internet detectives lose this round.

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Originally Posted by Illya

BRD
The skill "Blunt Arrow" now takes effect immediately, not after a 2-seconds animation.
The skill "Blood for Blood" has the damage inflicted on caster penalty decreased to +10%.
The skill "Shadowbind" has it's duration increased to 20 seconds in PvP.

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Please replace PvP skill "Manasong"!!! with something that could be useful for both Frontlines and Wolves den =(

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Originally Posted by Illya

BLM
The skill "Equanimity" is no longer available.

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ok so if i understand the caster can't never cast anything ? :D

this man is the best joke ever i love it continue plz

I think a blm owned him in a match :D and now he is demanding a nerf ahahah

Much fun wow

Most of BLM, cast sleep, or instant sleep, and then afk watching ennemy sleep and wait to sleep them again.
Good BLM are not sleeping all the time, they use instant spell, run and use over CC like slow / root.

Its like everything, there is the good player and the bad player. Easier to find bad player than good anyway, it's why SOLO Q suxx