The Enmity Of My Enemy

What's the point of making a player sit still for 3 hours straight? I'm waiting for fate: the enmity of my enemy the exact three hours and nothing.

As someone who hopes that this is indeed fun? The person who created this logic needs to be fired immediately. My veil atma this quest more boring than the atmas own farm.

SQUARE, Thanks for making a great game more boring.

Its your Choice to sit and wait for it, not SE's. Why not watch a movie or something while you wait?

I watch Shows on Hulu while I wait, helps to pass the time.

When it finally popped, did the Enemy of My Enemy FATE pop before it?
I went through a similar situation while trying to fulfill an Atma book task.
After looking the fate up online, I found that the Enemy of My Enemy is a prerequisite, which pops regularly.
There will be a few required FATES that will have uber long wait times, I reserve these for when I have other things to do around the house :p

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Originally Posted by Ionthius

What's the point of making a player sit still for 3 hours straight? I'm waiting for fate: the enmity of my enemy the exact three hours and nothing.

As someone who hopes that this is indeed fun? The person who created this logic needs to be fired immediately. My veil atma this quest more boring than the atmas own farm.

SQUARE, Thanks for making a great game more boring.

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what about doing other fates in the area? theres a maximum of fates which can be active at the same time, if you do other fates yours will pop faster

no reason to cry about, its your own fault if you just sit down and wait

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

what about doing other fates in the area? theres a maximum of fates which can be active at the same time, if you do other fates yours will pop faster

no reason to cry about, its your own fault if you just sit down and wait

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I've missed so many FATEs that I waited over an hour to do by FATE farming the zone to make it pop. This is the worst advice you can give someone. It's better to camp where it spawns like everyone else does because it'll be over before you get there. Especially a far out of the way FATE.

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Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz

I've missed so many FATEs that I waited over an hour to do by FATE farming the zone to make it pop. This is the worst advice you can give someone. It's better to camp where it spawns like everyone else does because it'll be over before you get there. Especially a far out of the way FATE.

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uhm...if you see that the prefate starts you have enough time to reach the place to participate in "the enmity of my enemy"

How often does this FATE pop? I saw it on the Map, but missed it because I had just teleported in and it was there. So, I logged off and will camp that site for a awhile tonight when I get back from work.

2.5-4 hours and it is 2 part fate.

when I do fates for my book, I usually shout and ask when was the last time it pops to judge whether I should stay or do others first.

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Originally Posted by Bushido_Brown

When it finally popped, did the Enemy of My Enemy FATE pop before it?
I went through a similar situation while trying to fulfill an Atma book task.
After looking the fate up online, I found that the Enemy of My Enemy is a prerequisite, which pops regularly.
There will be a few required FATES that will have uber long wait times, I reserve these for when I have other things to do around the house :p

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This. I can't tell you how many people I see ask in /shout about "Enmity of my Enemy", and I tell them time and again that you need to complete "Enemy of my Enemy" for it to appear. It's not great logical leap that if two FATEs have incredibly similar names, that they're probably linked in some way.

What threw me when I first had to do this FATE was that the initial one starts from an NPC with an exclamation mark rather than simply popping up.

Naturally I learned to research every FATE beforehand so that I knew the starting conditions before beginning my vigil.

I don't understand why this is in the rotation anyway. Given the way fates scale with population on the map, there's no way the NPC can survive if you're trying to run this alone and there are lowbies in Eastern for their main quests, or capped players running their beast tribe quests. The npc dies long before the fate can complete.

It's one thing to sit around for 2-3 hours waiting for a fate to pop alone, but another altogether to ask the same of friends to be certain that you can complete it. Is this Square's way of ensuring the only people who can hit Novus atm are in large FC? This better scale down as average ilvl increases, as it's idiotic in it's current state.

Grind =/= Challenge.

I'd rather do nine solo instances as hard as Titan to get my upgrade than participate in a process little different to the failed Korean grinder that 1.0 was.

What's worse is that players can be right next to the fate and won't say anything learned pretty quickly not to rely on other player's help. Example was trying to do Bellyful asked for help and no one responded as I was running to the fate when I arrived there were like 6 players already there if say I had waited till somebody responded I would have not gotten gold or missed the fate completely. It's pretty sad that the community is like this sometimes.