STOP THE BOTS!

SE This needs to stop. To many botters are getting away with cheating and its starting to cause an issue. I have been reporting people for a week now on hyperion and FC's at the top are starting to get out of control. I can show you videos I have recorded of these botters if thats what it takes. I can even name people off.

It's starting to ruin my experiance in this game. I'm having trouble finding full fate parties because of it and speed runs are almost gone now because bots would rather farm fates. I mean why not? They are getting away with it with no action taken towards them.

...You kinda lost me at the second paragraph.

I don't know what you are talking about... bots farming fates? Show us your video then.

Maybe he is one of those "Thy don't talk to me when I scream at them, so they have to be bots"

running around mining watching movies suddenly an agitated lala "I REPORTED YOU*cussword* BOT *cussword*"

me "Go be little somewhere else"

it teleported away without an anwser =_=

seemingly running around from node 1->2->3->4->1 and so on is botting.
Same thin with fates. or anything else tat requires you to move in a more or less weird pattern

and first thing came to my mind because of the thread name
STOP THE BOTS

there are bots doing dungeons why is it so hard to believe there are doing fates ? I have mixed feelings with bots, if you think of it when you do repetitive things on and on and on again you too are a bot, so if you see me mining iron, gold ore or what not, constantly for hours at end...you would think I am a bot...you can send mea /tell doesnt mean I will answer so you would report me for botting right ? in fact I dont bother with /tells so w hat ? I am a bot ?

I prefer to see actions taken agaisnt RMT rather then bots....those dont bug me unless in a dungeon but then again you can always kick it..

Mei

So you are telling me that people tend to run to the same spot every time a fate is not up facing the same way and moving with afk sign up?

Oh how about the fact that I would wait to turn a fate on like the earth spirit one in northern thanalan and they all come running the moment it turns on but no one will bother with it until then. How about the fact that sometimes these "playing people" run back and forth like the program is trying to decide if it wants to run back to the spot and wait or run to the fates.

Bot's are easy to find and you may not want to believe it because you may be one yourself. All it takes is a little time to see the pattern. I will be posting these videos shortly.

Also most RMT started by botting.

Idk, I saw a BLM in Mor Dhona who would run to 3-4 fate spots on the eastern side of the map. He would only cast bliz 3 on anything he fought, and when his health would dip below 70%, he would spam physick. It was almost mechanical how consistent this was. And when the mob was dead, he would either fight lightning sprites, or sprint to the next nearby fate. I sent him a couple /tell but got no response. I'm not saying that the lack of response was an indicator that he was botting, and all of this evidence was circumstantial at best. But when its added all up, it felt like a bot.

Spam bliz III and physick at 70% health allows you to maintain enough resources that you can continually fight and be away from keyboard. There are plenty.. PLENTY of other ways to utilize blm abilities to efficiently kill fate mobs. But if I were going to bot, this is how i'd set it up. Just sayin...

And considering how many times I see sponsored bot adds for ffxiv in my facebook feed, I imagine that someone has to be using them.

Botting is happening sadly, last week me and a few friends joined a group of people gathering near horizon,
Watching a floor show of at least 30 THM bots, all wearing same gear and following same pattern killing mobs, it was comical due to how many their was. A lot of us reported it, I was lucky enough to speak to a GM who even confirmed they had been to the location and looked but said they can't do anything about it as their task force team will need to investigate it.
I mean c'mon if the GM saw them and how many their was how can they believe it natural.

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Originally Posted by Mensworth

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you should remove the names of the FC you called out in your post. Otherwise you're going to get an infraction and the post will be deleted.

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Originally Posted by Mensworth

Bot's are easy to find and you may not want to believe it because you may be one yourself.

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^ If that's not a tell tail sign of a bot, I don't know what is.

Pretty sure a bot that sends information to the server to keep in AFK mode while running would flag the account, and then investigation begins, then banning eventually. You do realize the number of GMs to servers is probably very low...

You can't put yourself away manually or they took that out?

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Originally Posted by Mensworth

Naming and shaming

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That dude looks legit on lodestone. He could have been hacked maybe, Idk, but I won't outright say he's botting. For all we know it could just be a status glitch.

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-I'm naming and shaming again-

People can say "oh it's just how they fate" But we all know human nature to kick in and get bored. The movements are also pretty straight forward. HE moves right to the mobs and makes no random movement at all.

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There's a target fuctions that allows you to walk straight towards the target.

You can manually go afk but the moment you touch the mouse or keyboard it goes back to normal

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Originally Posted by Nikorayu

That dude looks legit on lodestone. He could have been hacked maybe, Idk, but I won't outright say he's botting. For all we know it could just be a status glitch.



There's a target fuctions that allows you to walk straight towards the target.

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No I have been watching that guy he has been at it for 3 days straight now.

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In this video you see that the bot is spamming one skill and auto attacking. He moves from target to target repeating the same actions.

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This guy must not being doing Alexandrite farming, boring is the name of the game, no one wants to use their brain to hit more than 1 button, let alone move their character for this stuff.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

You can't put yourself away manually or they took that out?

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I'm pretty sure you can, but with the new auto-away, not sure, I haven't tested nor can I.

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Originally Posted by KahnyaRedx

This guy must not being doing Alexandrite farming, boring is the name of the game, no one wants to use their brain to hit more than 1 button, let alone move their character for this stuff.



I'm pretty sure you can, but with the new auto-away, not sure, I haven't tested nor can I.

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Agin I have tested it you can not be afk and move anymore.

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Originally Posted by Mensworth

No I have been watching that guy he has been at it for 3 days straight now.

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And people spam Brayflox HM for days. What's the difference?

I'm not saying it's not a bot controlling the account, but only the task force will find out.

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In this video you see that the bot is spamming one skill and auto attacking. He moves from target to target repeating the same actions.

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LOL. So because he is spamming one skill makes him a bot......

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Originally Posted by Nikorayu

And people spam Brayflox HM for days. What's the difference?

I'm not saying it's not a bot controlling the account, but only the task force will find out.

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Been reporting for weeks and SE hasn't done anything to a single bot. What's worse these people we be in the same spot for days on end. Now I have farmed spots for example: Atma. For days on end but never has it been so generic in a way that I move from target to target using the same move over and over. Only reason this is a big deal to me now is because it's becoming a huge problem finding partys to farm fates because most are in bot partys or botting themselfs. I wouldn't be saying they are not botting until you take more than 5 mins to watch a bot and his or her movements.

Oh and FYI Im not saying bots don't exsist. Ive run into Mining Bots in FCs on my old server ( some in top tier FCs ) and reported them to their FCs leaders with Mixed results. In one case the FC Leader booted the offending player. In another case the FC Leader told the Player hours later that I had reported them and I got /tells from him and a couple other members of the FC that "I should stop being a baby and not report for botting." Now I don't bother going to the FC Leaders, I just fill out the GM Ticket and let them do their work.

I don't care about your reasons, but it is getting very annoying.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

LOL. So because he is spamming one skill makes him a bot......

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Read everything before you decide to bash. I got more videos of this coming. and the fact that these "bots" keep running to the same position after every fight with no movement what so ever until a fate pops makes them a bot. Also fates you have to talk to npc's to actually start is a easy way to find them. They glitch out on them. start running back and fourth sometimes trying to go back to the spot they stand and to the fate.

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Originally Posted by Kerowyn

Oh and FYI Im not saying bots don't exsist. Ive run into Mining Bots in FCs on my old server ( some in top tier FCs ) and reported them to their FCs leaders with Mixed results. In one case the FC Leader booted the offending player. In another case the FC Leader told the Player hours later that I had reported them and I got /tells from him and a couple other members of the FC that "I should stop being a baby and not report for botting." Now I don't bother going to the FC Leaders, I just fill out the GM Ticket and let them do their work.

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I have been for weeks

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Originally Posted by Mensworth

Read everything before you decide to bash. I got more videos of this coming. and the fact that these "bots" keep running to the same position after every fight with no movement what so ever until a fate pops makes them a bot. Also fates you have to talk to npc's to actually start is a easy way to find them. They glitch out on them. start running back and fourth sometimes trying to go back to the spot they stand and to the fate.

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I run back to the same spot every time when no fates are up, and move when they pop...what's the problem? Maybe they have a special rock at that spot

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I run back to the same spot every time when no fates are up, and move when they pop...what's the problem? Maybe they have a special rock at that spot

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Sounds like what a certain FC leader told me.

It's whatever I will keep recording and reporting weather people believe it or not.

Ahh the Difference Between Player Bots and RMT Bots... One lot actually move between targets (Macroed too High Heaven) Other Teleports Between targets.

Reported a Couple of RMT Bots afew weeks ago, They Kept going for the same 3/4 Respawns of Ice Sprites in Coerathas, Would Attack and Attack and Attack with no worry about there own Health, All in crafted gear and would as i said Teleport between the targets. (Finish Killing the one enemy and then immediately be on the next one even though it was quite a distance away).

I Can Understand why people do it.. but it's Still cheating and... If your gonna let the game play itself.. why not play FF13?

its not just the spamming of 1 skill, or movement back to the exact same place, or the precise usage of the same abilities under the same exact conditions, repeated over and over. Its the sum of all of these things that lead to the assumption of botting. Again... all of the evidence, even when viewed as a whole, is circumstantial.

But if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

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I Can Understand why people do it.. but it's Still cheating and... If your gonna let the game play itself.. why not play FF13?

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Because FFXIII and FFXIII-2 keeps freezing at the beginning of the game.

Is this post supposed to be about you not finding anyone to party with? Someone using a bot will probably end up on wrong side of the ban hammer, in which case they still wont be able to play with you.

Maybe start your own party finder group would be a better solution or perhaps join a more active FC?

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Originally Posted by Archon_Diabolos

Is this post supposed to be about you not finding anyone to party with? Someone using a bot will probably end up on wrong side of the ban hammer, in which case they still wont be able to play with you.

Maybe start your own party finder group would be a better solution or perhaps join a more active FC?

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No this post is about bot affecting the gameplay of a game I am paying for. I didnt just watch someone for 5 mins and say BOT. I have been watching for weeks and I have been reporting people who I know are bots. I even has some friends who told me certain people have admitted to botting the hell out of stuff it makes it easy.

Now I do make most of my own parties I even teach end game parties. So please if you are here just to blindly defend bots then leave. Read it all and do your own research as well. Since you are hyperion take a hour or 2 to watch all the players in Northern Thanalan since thats one of the easy spots to find them.

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No this post is about bot affecting the gameplay of a game I am paying for. I didnt just watch someone for 5 mins and say BOT. I have been watching for weeks and I have been reporting people who I know are bots. I even has some friends who told me certain people have admitted to botting the hell out of stuff it makes it easy.

Now I do make most of my own parties I even teach end game parties. So please if you are here just to blindly defend bots then leave. Read it all and do your own research as well. Since you are hyperion take a hour or 2 to watch all the players in Northern Thanalan since thats one of the easy spots to find them.

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Your choosing to watch people bot. You are not a hall monitor. Report and move on man. :)

Bans come in waves. You gotta just report and move on. Eventually it will be researched and taken care of. Just realize that for every report you send in, the get thousands more probably every minute. They have to filter through those and find the actual bots/rmt as apposed to the people that get reported because someone thinks they are a bot. It will happen, just takes time.

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...You kinda lost me at the second paragraph.

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...Yeah. sounds to me he's confusing bots with those poor people who lost their souls to the atma / novus grinds.

Ahh... well, a quick google search did come up with a fate/combat bot. So i might be included to believe this could actually be happening.

Don't bot kids.

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...Yeah. sounds to me he's confusing bots with those poor people who lost their souls to the atma / novus grinds.

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Or he's identifying people who have sold their souls to botting because of the atma/novus grind. I know the thought of botting didn't really cross my mind until the RNG fate-fest. It would also explain why totally legit seeming accounts are botting now. And like KidVideo said: A simple google search will list a few very simple to use combat/fate bots (that are also capable of DoH/DoL). Just look for yourself. I'd do a LMGTFY but i'm pretty sure linking to any website that promotes 3rd party tools is against the TOS.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-%28Jun.-19%29

Just report it when you found, they can tell which are bot and not.

The bot infestation on my server has gotten bad lately. There's always a group of black mage clones at the city aetherytes or the Nald and Thal gates of Ul'dah and just yesterday I saw this near the mun-tuy cellars. This is about half the group that was there initially, the rest teleported elsewhere before I took the screenshot.

http://i.imgur.com/B72l4xi.jpg

There's so many and in between the time they've been reported and the time they get banned, they've already done their damage and started a new crop of bots. It doesn't seem worth the trouble for players to keep up with reports.

I've personally witnessed someone using a bot for Alexandrite farming. They were in Middle La Noscea and as soon as a FATE would spawn, they'd mount up and take the longest possible path every time. (most people would jump down to the western half of the map, this person took the ramp down EVERY time) There were also other little things you could tell they were using a bot, such as if they were in combat and another FATE spawned, they would just stand there until the mob was killed. (either their chocobo or another PC would have to kill it for them to move onto the FATE, but they wouldn't personally do anything to try to kill the mob or get out of combat)

I'm not going to go as far as to say it's ruining my gaming experience, but it is pretty saddening. I've ran into other people that use bots to spiritbond by standing in out of the way places and obviously botting, since their character just sits in one spot spinning in circles until a mob spawns. I just report them and move on, but that same person is still in game so it's a bit disheartening.