I want a Duty Roulette: Extreme Trials!

Please! Make it happen! (Psst and award 200 myths for it..)
That way I can get my daily alexandrite without bray SR.. heh heh

inb4 "Everyone runs away from Titan!" XD

There are currently less than 5 extreme trials, so just tick all of them and queue up?

But.. but.. there are 2 main story!

You should be careful with what you wish for...
since when can ppl clear EX in DF? :) you'd need to be really lucky. So you'd waste more time wiping, than getting myth tomes.
Then again, you'd need to clear LeviX, MoogleX to unlock it. So if you cleared them before, you should be pro right?....not really (buy wins and all that)

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Originally Posted by Richiealvian

But.. but.. there are 2 main story!

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But that DR was made to help people (first timers) clear it without having to wait three days for a queue, LL DR and Trial are somewhat in the same boat, the whole point of DR is to keep the queues of "critical content" alive, EX primals seem to fall more to the optional side IMO, same as Coil and CT (can you imagine a DR for coil?).

It'd be the one roulette I doubt anyone would even think of doing. I sure wouldn't *shiver* Not even for 200 myths.

Yeah I agree with what's been said, hell even if a EX roulette offered you the entire weeks sold cap I still wouldn't do it

I will just have 7 other people I know that can clear any EX queue up for an odd language (F on mostly E server for example) and check if all 8 of us get the pop-up at the same time and pray we get each other. :/ There's no point doing Extreme Primals with DF otherwise.

If they made the requirement of having beaten all of the Ex Primals (hopefully at least 5 times each so you don't get people who got carried) then I'd agree. I love all the Ex Primals, but I can't for the life of me form a group who can down it without spending 3 hours in the PF, trying with one group, kicking the bads, reforming, trying a few more times and repeating. I like helping people and don't mind playing with new players but when I *want* to down something that I know I can, I want to join a group that has the same capabilities as me and I'll make it clear when I'm searching in the PF, and everyone is okay with it

heey, I've been winning it all weekly with the DF! since mid 2.1! This should be fun haha

YoshiP has mentioned plans for extreme primals to go into a roulette, in addition to making them easier, eventually.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

YoshiP has mentioned plans for extreme primals to go into a roulette, in addition to making them easier, eventually.

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Pretty sure this will happen. Also 2.3 or 2.4 they might add more echo.

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Originally Posted by Arkista

Pretty sure this will happen. Also 2.3 or 2.4 they might add more echo.

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Seeing a lot of wipes in Garuda HM in roulette, I would hate to imagine how much of an echo buff will be needed for EX roulette
Will it be like in the FFVII port they done where you can click a button and get max Dmg, health etc and become near immortal

Since you can now roulette in a party it's not bad at all

Make Myth and you have yourself a challenger.

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Originally Posted by Zozor

There are currently less than 5 extreme trials, so just tick all of them and queue up?

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There are also currently 3 dungeons on the "expert roulette" yet that's a thing.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

since when can ppl clear EX in DF? :) you'd need to be really lucky. So you'd waste more time wiping, than getting myth tomes.

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OP is on Tonberry, JP server. The success rate of DF extreme primals is considerably higher than NA data centers. I was able to get all of the primal weapons when I was on Mandragora through mostly DF.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

You should be careful with what you wish for...
since when can ppl clear EX in DF? :) you'd need to be really lucky. So you'd waste more time wiping, than getting myth tomes.
Then again, you'd need to clear LeviX, MoogleX to unlock it. So if you cleared them before, you should be pro right?....not really (buy wins and all that)

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Yes, that's your requirement to do it as a roulette, but not someone else's to just participate. Every person you're paired with in trial roulette isn't also doing roulette, a lot of them are under-geared inexperienced players who just get carried. So EX roulette would function the same.

Well, it's not like you can't win with a few people derp..they keep increasing the ilevels! I really enjoy the extreme primals, and I still collect their tokens (at 53 now with almost all weapons obtained) and sometimes it's hard to find like minded people to just do it. I mean i get insta queue as tank/healer.. but dps?! I wanna play everything..

considering people still die to Ifrit/Garuda/Titan HM roulette, EX roulette would be a complete disaster.

But what if they added say a 50+ allied seal reward for roulette. Considering that you can pre-form parties for roulettes I don't see how the difficulty would be so brutal as to keep people from doing it.

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Originally Posted by Darsho

But what if they added say a 50+ allied seal reward for roulette. Considering that you can pre-form parties for roulettes I don't see how the difficulty would be so brutal as to keep people from doing it.

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Only Expert/High Level (currently).

They would have to nerf Titan EX for sure (and if Coil Roulette ever becomes a thing, T5 would be in line for a nerf as well), otherwise it'd be impossible to PUG which is the whole point of Duty Roulette to begin with. Couple that with insanely high rewards (say, 200 myth, 50 soldiery, and some allied seals for good measure) and I think we'd have a good thing going.

That's the thing, the only way they will ever get it to work is to give insanely high rewards, as most of the player base will ignore it as their after specific drops. Couple that with titan ex... With random people in DF, it will be a mess
I like the allied seals suggestion, but still wouldn't touch an EX primal roulette

The way our Primal group of servers run these, I really don't want this to come to fruition.
I would honestly like to know the % rate of successful DF runs for any EX Trial content on Primal Servers alone, tbh. I bet it's not higher than 20%.

Not gonna lie, I don't expect a high percentage of players to run it daily, so you don't have to like the idea. But in order to do any roulette you have to have already cleared it, and what I'm saying is having some exp'd people gradually join roulette can't hurt duty finder EX population any more than the situation already is.

This will be a disaster waiting to happen. Heck at times it's hard to find a party on PF that can clear extreme primals so imagine it on duty. I'd probably do it for 400 Sol

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Originally Posted by RygaenYuui

I bet it's not higher than 20%.

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20% would be optimistic in the extreme. no pun intended... xd

If I remember correcly, they plan to add EX fights to the duty roulette trial, at some point in the future.

If implemented, I feel bad for the poor souls that will queue these ex-primals via roulette and say "hey, I'm new!". Not even Liu Kang will kick them as strong as some people wanting to have a smooth clear.

I'd queue up for an EX roulette. Even though I can't stand garuda after all the wipes I had there with premades and good parties I'd still queue up for it. Titan ex is just good clean fun unlike garuda ex.

Remembering the wipes I had in "weekly kill" or "mirror farm" parties even through Group Finder, no Thanks! I already see people blowing up their iLevel with PVP Gear and what not and trying to leech a win without ever having seriously approached these battles. And on the other side, the elitists, already giving up after one try and ragequitting after yelling "L2P" at people. Not even if one succesfull run would fill the strat cap at once lol.

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Originally Posted by Defteros

If I remember correcly, they plan to add EX fights to the duty roulette trial, at some point in the future.

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...her-2.3-topics

Near the bottom of the page: Yoshi-P states that he wants to add more rewards to EX primals, or at least consider a roulette option.

I don't see why so many people are simply saying no to something they aren't even forced to participate in.
I really don't.

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Originally Posted by saeedaisspecial

I don't see why so many people are simply saying no to something they aren't even forced to participate in.
I really don't.

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Everyone's entitled to an opinion be it agreeing or disagreeing

It would be too chaotic. Everyone knows dungeons in and out, and you have to be really horrible to not pass a dungeon in a roulette. Current trial roulette is easy to do because everyone's so overgeared, but an extreme trial would have too many variables that would make something that's supposed to take 5 minutes end up running almost an hour. You'll also have people rage quitting much more. Basically, too hard/troublesome for most people.

O hey , this thread got alive!

I never knew it was that bad in your servers, as for my data center, whether it's an E or J party usually the success rate is about.. 70%.
Even twintania I've one shotted in DF in about 2 out of 5 attempts. Hmm, I dunno..

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Originally Posted by Richiealvian

O hey , this thread got alive!

I never knew it was that bad in your servers, as for my data center, whether it's an E or J party usually the success rate is about.. 70%.
Even twintania I've one shotted in DF in about 2 out of 5 attempts. Hmm, I dunno..

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Sounds like I need to move to Tonberry.

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Everyone's entitled to an opinion be it agreeing or disagreeing

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Sure you are, but when people are saying "no don't add this" it's very silly because it's not like it being in the game is going to affect their gameplay in any way if they choose to ignore Extreme Roulette.
If they were to post something like "I wouldn't use this" instead of "No don't add this" that would be a different story, but people are outright saying they don't want it in the game at all, which is silly.