What gives, damnit!!! Anyway, I was just running by Camp Horizon on the way to the docks for my first Ul'dah Mission, and saw the battlewarden up. Thought why not and joined.
So yeah seriously WTF SE, I mean I've been enjoying most the update thus far, but this is just ridiculous. I was only getting 100sp per mob, and at the end got an additional 810sp, {less than 3000sp} and we beat it in 8min. {I understand the less gil part, so whatever about that...} Prior to 1.18 I was getting 450sp a kill, over 8k for the entire event.
And then to top this all off, the timer for Behest is back at 1hr...that is just dumb considering it was reduced to 30min not too long ago so we had something more often to do with random players.
I can see where you're going with this and trying to enforce PTs ever more and be more like XI, which I've been pressing for but there are still no easy ways to find players and form a PT. I've tried to use the new seek option and thus far it keeps coming up blank no matter what options I choose, nor does anyone else respond when I think I've activated seek. Shouting in the cities is not only annoying, but disruptive to other players but that seems the only way to find a PT...
Please give us /sea all from FFXI...it works, its awesome, its the best way to form a PT in any MMO I've played!
Behest...le sigh...
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07-22-2011, 04:41 PMKhalusBehest...le sigh...
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07-22-2011, 04:49 PMLuxLex
Yeah. I am so glad they made leveling slower in this game, cause it was just unbearable before, now it will be excruciating. Way to raise the bar!
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07-22-2011, 04:58 PMKhalus
Its much slower now without the fatigue than it was with it... I mean geez even when I had fatigue I got more SP than that per kill, blah!
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07-22-2011, 05:00 PMRazorI think the logic here was to prevent the same eight low-latency players from getting the behest every time in congested areas (which is an issue at Horizon). A better solution would have been make Behest every 15 minutes and add a 25 minute cool down. This would have preserved the speed of behest while still preventing the same players from monopolizing the behest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalus
I can't disagree with you though that the 1hr cool down combined with the junky SP was pretty rude. When I ran out of leves (which gave "meh" exp to begin with) I always used to be able to say "Well at least I can level off behests now..." ; ; -
07-22-2011, 05:04 PMRinsui
Hint: Try behests somewhere noone else does it.
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07-22-2011, 05:08 PMDubontexactlyQuote:
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07-22-2011, 05:09 PMSuzakuCMXMore people in Gridania yay.Quote:
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07-22-2011, 05:09 PMLokiie1984
I can understand the one hour cool down, but the exp they give now isnt worth the 1 hour wait. I can also understand doing it in different areas for better exp, but that will really only help if people spread out an use the other cities. Or you go to each one with a set party.
I was hoping the removal of fatigue would mean i could level at the same rate i was pre patch for as long as i wanted, but it seems like the removal was more like giving every one perma fatigue. -
07-22-2011, 05:11 PMSuzakuCMXNo, actually it only works if nobody uses those Behests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lokiie1984
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07-22-2011, 05:13 PMBalbanesSomewhere other than Horizon/BW? Do such places exist?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rinsui
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07-22-2011, 05:14 PMLokiie1984Thats what im saying, if no one uses it i would end up soloing it, which would give a bonus but wouldnt be any fun. So if people moved around more that would be alright, but then we would lose the bonusQuote:
Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX
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07-22-2011, 05:14 PMRinsui
Dubont, let's throw a PT sometime.
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07-22-2011, 05:14 PMKhalus
So yeah...lets add some more flame to this disgust. My timer to do behest again has expired, I just ran past Horizon, but the battlewarden isn't there this time. ~There is no timer indicating when he'll respawn next~ Typing /clock no longer has a behest timer, and the "Timer" page just says behest is available...
And here I had such high hopes for this patch, and besides the Grand Companies which are not bad thus far, 1.18 has really made the game worse. I know we all voted for substantial game changes earlier this year, but we also wanted it to be something that was great, better than it was... -
07-22-2011, 05:18 PMSonic_the_HedgehogThat's weird, it was there for me.Quote:
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07-22-2011, 05:19 PMRazorI don't mean to come off as a donkey for saying this but... why do you need such a timer? The battlewarden appears at exactly :00 and :30 of every hour lol.Quote:
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07-22-2011, 05:22 PMKhalus
I dunno...I like my timer, but anyway as said already, the very low SP you get now isn't worth doing behest anymore...
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07-22-2011, 05:28 PMSuzakuCMXDid you check the ranks of everyone else in the behest?Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalus
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07-22-2011, 05:36 PMRazor
I did a Nophica's Wells Behest [at rank 31] (rarely done pre-patch but I did do it shortly after the servers went up so I don't know if I received any "No one does this behest" bonus) but I received 150sp/kill (for 10 mobs) + 200? for the 3 bosses + 2025 reward = 4125sp vs the 250sp/10 mobs + 300 for the 3 bosses which only = 3400 pre-patch. Before I did the math I did feel cheated only because of the less exp/kill but turns out I got more than before. The 1hr recast timer did however discourage me from doing any more behest at that time though lol.
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07-22-2011, 05:53 PMNeptune
Fail. I see less and less of a reason to log in the more I read about this patch.
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07-22-2011, 05:56 PMSydeBeheln
They said behest and guildleves were more solo oriented now. I will agree, because of that we are in a weird position with nothing to really do except grind, for the exception of the dungeons. We will just have to wait for the new party based content to fill our needs.
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07-22-2011, 06:06 PMKhalusI'll greatly beg to differ on this, as I did try to solo a behest, and yeah I couldn't finish it, cause I can only cast cure/sacrifice all of about 3 times now before running dry of MP. Even using Bloodlust only returns like 200hp...and when you have 2-3 mobs beating on you, and they all land a crit and the very awkward AA that you have to keep clicking the mobs a second time to confirm and make AA start working again.Quote:
Originally Posted by SydeBeheln
Tried this at Camp Horizon as a R25 GLD, nobody was there anymore...
Another annoyance ~ After you kill a mob and the AA deactivates, and you press up/down to cycles through your hotbar pages, you end up changing targets into friendly or party mod, and your cursor is now elsewhere. Thats another few secs of getting back to enemy mod and finding your target again, then click a second time to confirm you want to kill that somabitch...argh!
I'm really starting to consider taking Bioware up on their $150 SW:TOR CE and just do with XIV as I've done the past year, "log in for each patch to try the changes but ultimately log out a few hours later still severely unsatisfied!" -
07-22-2011, 06:09 PMSonic_the_HedgehogHow could you have been a R25 GLD when your GLD rank is only 14?Quote:
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07-22-2011, 06:15 PMKhalus
Because thats just a silly signature that hasn't been updated yet.
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07-22-2011, 06:17 PMSonic_the_HedgehogFair enough.Quote:
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07-23-2011, 08:56 AMSoftandsquishy
I can understand implementing timers so that everyone gets a chance to do Behests, but now, there's not even enough people for a full group.
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07-23-2011, 09:14 AMKenseiThis is so true. That alone lets you see how much they nerfed SP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalus
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07-24-2011, 08:10 AMDacen
Personally, and I'm sure others can attest, I'd just like to see Behest every 30 minutes again. At least this way, there's something to do more often between other things, because atm, still not enough content.
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07-24-2011, 08:18 AMCichy
They lowered SP so that people could enjoy progressing through content. There's only one thing they forgot to add and that's the content.
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07-24-2011, 08:36 AMLuxLex
I thought killing marmots and watching my MP bar was content.
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07-24-2011, 09:45 AMMishaSo you're whining because you no longer get absurd huge chunks of sp by doin a 8 min behest? lol Work it out... that 3k in 8 mins works out to more than a 21k per sp average per hour, that's pretty damn nice. Go out and do other things besides behest, just don't expect easy sp anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalus