Game value-ease of playing all jobs. Request

It would be of greater value for the player and the development team (i.e. more fun and more fun=more money)

if we had more sensible ways to play all 9 jobs.

Currently the atma stones do not stack (having two or more of the same atma stone requires 2 or more inventory spaces.) (24 atma stones would take up 24 inventory spaces...)


There is also no where to store said stones except in personal, or retainer inventory. (An npc to hold items such as this would be great.)

Also doing FATEs with Atma+ weapons does not yield Atma stones, please address this.

Some players actually like video games and like to gear up all the jobs available, please look into ways of allowing us to gear each job instead of locking us out via only 1 player can receive gear from coil per week (cant even lot on different jobs after clearing the content once. Meaning it would be nice to be able to clear per job instead of per character. Ex: Clear as PLD get locked out as PLD, can then go as SCH etc.)
(I know this is not likely to be added ... ever.. but still wishful thinking.)

Also please please please add a way to effectively gain myth outside of spamming dungeons. Dungeons are fun and all but.. currently if you did the fastest most effective way of farming myth to obtain just a single novus weapon you would need to run:

Roughly:

For Animus:
270 dungeons

For Novus: (only half alexan. from myth)
600

total:
870

Or:
For Animus:
2700 maps*
750 Trials (at 18 myth per)
90 High level roulettes

For Novus: (only half alexan. from myth)
6000
1,667
200

total:
8700
2417
1,667
290


(*the gathering maps, not the maps you use to get alexandrite.)

(so you can barely obtain just 1 novus in just under 1 year doing just high level roulettes.)

Its great that coil 1 was unlocked thus, with a levi X weapon, moogle neck piece and myth/allagan gear you can obtain about i91/92 "freely" but maybe look into ways to allow players who play all the jobs gain some kind of boost/bonus/ease to gear them? (by playing all of them specifically?)

So at the very very least, allow the atma stones to stack, and allow any weapon Zenith+ to obtain atma stones thank you. :)

if you equip animus curtana and zenith holy shield you might be able to get both from fates

Make Atma stones key items as well, seriously. Also, make FATE's drop myth/sol tomes and allow FATEs to drop atma to anyone, not just those on the quest (ie. I can spam FATEs to level a different class while farming atma for another).

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Originally Posted by ServerCollaps

if you equip animus curtana and zenith holy shield you might be able to get both from fates

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This has been confirmed to not work. For Pally, weapon is all that matters for atma/alex.

so you can barely obtain just 1 novus in just under 1 year doing just high level roulettes. <-- erm...

You can get 1 free alexandrite map per day via drexpert from a daily quest in north shroud(next to the guy about zodiac wepons)... And from what I understand... there's 75 melds max on that scroll or so so that's 75 alexandrite you would need... So 3 months or so if you don't buy an extra map(800 myth) with all the myth raking in doing other things in the game. And if you feel like spamming fates hope for an extra alexandrite drop as well. From what I understand 2.3 will have more ways to obtain alexandrite.

You aren't locked out of obtaining Atmas with a job you've already upgraded past Zenith with. You can rebuy either the Relic or the Zenith(or both, I don't remember) from the Calamity Salvager. Either way, you can possess a Job's Zenith and Atma+ at the same time... and then get more Atma with it :)

Everything beyond Zenith is not meant to be obtained for all classes sadly. Even if they made it so that you only have to collect the ATMAS once, it would take far too much time.

13500 Myth x 9 = 121.500 Myth for just doing the Upgrade from Zenith to Animus for all 9 combat classes
60000 Myth x 9 = 540.000 Myth for doing the upgrade from Animus to Novus if you do it via Myth tomes to get your Alexandrite
75 days x 9 = 675 days which is almost TWO YEARS if you do the upgrade from Animus to Novus via daily expert roulette

All these numbers are absurd. Ugrade beyond Zenith Relic is for your main job and nothing else. If you have no Life (pun intended), maybe 2-3 weapons. But all 9? Never ever. And do not forget, Novus is most probably not the end of the Journey. I am sure, they will find more grindy ways to make you upgrade it. Each stage they add will make it more and more impossible to do more than your main job.

At the very least, SE should look into making Atma's "key items" that don't clog up your normal inventory space.


As far as everything else... meh.

The fact is, SE messed up and made everything from 1-50 too easy. Too many players got to "end-game" too fast and SE needed to do something that would stretch the life of their new content out.

Their solution was to roll out progression content that was incredibly grindy.

It kind of is what it is.

1) Atma not stacking truly is a problem and I sometimes feel an urge to simply discard them to free up my retainer's inventory.
2) Zenith weapons can get Atma drops, Animus weapons can get alexandrite drops - seems legit to me.
3) No other way to get myth other than spamming Brayflox hm? I can get about 700 myth in couple of hours by doing roulettes and beast tribe daily quests every day. Main story roulette and low level roulette with tank and join started - instant start and can take 15 min each if lucky. Trials roulette - drops fast for any job and give you 5 min battle. Hard and expert roulette - do it with friends or fc members and it will be much more fun and faster than waste time waiting to set up df group that pull everything up to 1st boss, die and whine about waste of time.

I completely agree with Atmas being made Key Items. This would be a RELIEF, because inventory space can get pretty scarce when you're trying to juggle keeping crafting materials and atmas... PLUS if you end up filling up with junk drops from the FATE monsters, then you couldn't get an Atma even if you wanted it as it is... it's a fine line, and it'd be nice to free up that main space, because the Key item spot has a lot of space, and I have never had more that 5 or 6 of them filled at once, so Atmas taking up that space would work well.

And thank you Donjo for this information! I've hated the Atma grind, and after seeing an Atma/Animus Thyrus I was so disappointed that the gemstone changed to red and there was a blue tinge on it, but if I can get a Zenith again, I can re-glamour it back to blue if I wanted, right?