I tried solo play, went to solo cobs

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07-22-2011, 01:28 PM
Synthesis

I tried solo play, went to solo cobs

MP cost for single spell is too much. 1/2 less would do lesser evil. Killed just 2 cobs until I ran out, 2nd nearly got me.
07-22-2011, 01:29 PM
Dubont

you shouldn't be soloing.
07-22-2011, 01:31 PM
Synthesis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubont

you shouldn't be soloing.

From fact how insane it is/was to find party. I was forced to solo my stuff. I hope people will start partying more now.
07-22-2011, 01:32 PM
PeaceWalker

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Originally Posted by Dubont

you shouldn't be soloing.

Why don't you quit flaming the players?
It's funny how you have a bad rep in every forum you go to.
I'm not a solo player, but one of the selling points of FFXIV when it was announced is that it would be solo-friendly.
Every MMO has solo content, why shouldn't this one?
07-22-2011, 01:33 PM
Victor

Sounds like FFXI lol
07-22-2011, 01:34 PM
Ventus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dubont

you shouldn't be soloing.

wow that joke is so old I nearly fell off my dinosaur XDXDXDXDXD!

you....were joking right?

Yeah, you're probably right yoshida never talked about this being a game for solo players and group players. Looks like we're getting that 8 month of 5-6 hours a day grinding in ff11 that we all loved =D!
07-22-2011, 01:37 PM
Dubont

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeaceWalker

Why don't you quit flaming the players?
It's funny how you have a bad rep in every forum you go to.
I'm not a solo player, but one of the selling points of FFXIV when it was announced is that it would be solo-friendly.
Every MMO has solo content, why shouldn't this one?

solo friendly does not mean that everything should be soloable. Levequests are still very solo friendly and if you actually know what you're doing, you won't run out of mp. I'm not flaming, I'm being logical and realistic. MMOs are not solo games, regardless of how solo friendly they may be.
07-22-2011, 01:40 PM
kukurumei

Not to mention you heal faster not moving then moving. That trait was lost to people when they had mp-god
07-22-2011, 01:43 PM
Abriael

try using one of those useful MP-regen skills. You have those for a reason :D
07-22-2011, 01:44 PM
Hotohori

The speed of being able to play solo has severely suffered and it was very obvious when soloing 2 leves on my Thaumaturge to test how much they changed it. I will be restating more points to mind when I can again and be reducing my other job capabilities cause low mind is very difficult to play with after the MP cost increases. Full time use of Stygian and Siphon MP is rather bothersome now to keep the pace of battle from slowing down too badly. It's not fun just standing around watching for MP to recover slowly.

P.S. The Skill Points given from the leves at the end is no where near enough to make up for the loss of the bonus points the monsters previously gave per kill. If including the movement times between kills as a factor, leves a really poor source of skill points compared to an continuous grind if that's still possible with the raised MP costs.
07-22-2011, 01:44 PM
PeaceWalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriael

try using one of those useful MP-regen skills. You have those for a reason :D

You can only use them if you're equipping CON or THM.
Try using that skill as a PGL or a GLA :D
07-22-2011, 01:45 PM
Balbanes

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Originally Posted by Synthesis

MP cost for single spell is too much. 1/2 less would do lesser evil. Killed just 2 cobs until I ran out, 2nd nearly got me.

Higher level than you? Lower/Equal? If you're killing mobs that are of an equal match or tougher, getting through two before having to wait the short'ish wait to refill your MP is not bad.
07-22-2011, 01:48 PM
Abriael

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeaceWalker

You can only use them if you're equipping CON or THM.
Try using that skill as a PGL or a GLA :D

See, here's the effect of overly easy games, people forget that they have the tools.

There are *other* MP regenerating skills, that can be subbed. Surprise, surprise, The two that instantly gift you half a MP bar aren't the only ones you have.
07-22-2011, 01:55 PM
PeaceWalker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abriael

See, here's the effect of overly easy games, people forget that they have the tools.

There are *other* MP regenerating skills, that can be subbed. Surprise, surprise, The two that instantly gift you half a MP bar aren't the only ones you have.

Depends of the level of your DoM's :D
07-22-2011, 01:57 PM
Neptune

A 2 year old kid should be able to solo a Coblyn.. if this is true this patch is one huge mess of fail.
07-22-2011, 02:03 PM
Abriael

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Originally Posted by Neptune

A 2 year old kid should be able to solo a Coblyn.. if this is true this patch is one huge mess of fail.

I'm very eager to see a 2 year old kid soloing a coblyn 20 levels over him. Only "huge mess of fail" I see is your post.

Game has become slightly harder now, siomply because mana matters. Before it didn't. Mages never ran out, which is idiotic. It's called balancing, welcome to it.
07-22-2011, 02:04 PM
DeadRiser

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeaceWalker

Why don't you quit flaming the players?
It's funny how you have a bad rep in every forum you go to.
I'm not a solo player, but one of the selling points of FFXIV when it was announced is that it would be solo-friendly.
Every MMO has solo content, why shouldn't this one?

Yeah that was before the game epicly failed and now Yoshi is the main man
07-22-2011, 02:08 PM
Forbin

WoW kids thing you should be able to solo to max level.. the fans that SE should be catering to.. those of us that paid to play FFXI for the past 8-9 years.. think it should be group play....
07-22-2011, 02:09 PM
Ventus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Forbin

WoW kids thing you should be able to solo to max level.. the fans that SE should be catering to.. those of us that paid to play FFXI for the past 8-9 years.. think it should be group play....

ah yes and now the self centered, elitists come to put their worthless 2 cents in
07-22-2011, 02:10 PM
LuxLex

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Originally Posted by Victor

Sounds like FFXI lol

No, actually XI it is fun to solo now, because someone gave the developers there a clue, and they started making the game fun instead of boring and grindy. Apparently Yoshi found a time machine because his core battle design principles seem like they are straight from 2001.
07-22-2011, 02:11 PM
LuxLex

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Yeah that was before the game epicly failed and now Yoshi is the main man

Yeah cause driving away half of the remaining players with nerfs and yet more tedious grinding is certainly the path to success.
07-22-2011, 02:12 PM
Verecund

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Originally Posted by Dubont

you shouldn't be soloing.

You shouldn't be making games. Oh wait.
07-22-2011, 02:51 PM
indira

nothing has changed for me i still have to solo, thanks to having a crappy party search.
07-22-2011, 02:58 PM
Abriael

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuxLex

Yeah cause driving away half of the remaining players with nerfs and yet more tedious grinding is certainly the path to success.

If someone is "driven away" by balancing, MMORPGs simply aren't for him.
07-22-2011, 03:00 PM
Gramul

Then don't solo with a nuke or healer if it's too difficult.

Seriously, if this becomes a big problem for people, Square will make more adjustments in sub updates.
07-22-2011, 07:29 PM
jones6

I tried to do a few leves and my damage was nice, evasion seemed to be working well and I didn't miss nearly as much but the higher mp cost for healing as a pugilist was ridiculous waiting for my mp to refill after every battle, reminded me of soloing THF in XI to 30. I stopped using the mp consuming, previous standard attacks to conserve for healing. I found myself just waiting for TP/cooldowns and such most of the time without the standard attacks. I guess I could just do easier leves but not much fun in that. Consumables would make this more viable but still annoying for me the player that just does a few leves once in a while.