Hello! I just started playing a few days ago, I started as an arcanist, got to lvl 15 but I don't really want to progress further with it, should I continue leveling it to 30 or can I switch to thaumaturge without worrying about losing some progress? Oh and when is it a good time to start crafting?
I don't like my class..
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06-09-2014, 03:46 AMLala_viviI don't like my class..
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06-09-2014, 03:57 AMSebastos
Changing classes is completely up to you. At 15 you haven't done much with content so it won't affect you much, if at all. The thing to think about is many would consider Arc-> San the best solo class in the game. If you like solo play stick with it, if not change. I would recommend staying get with it long enough to get your mount. As for crafting, I started and leveled my main craft with my 1st job. It had some benefits but more drawbacks. I wouldn't start crafting till 1 job is at 50. On the other hand if you go culinary, do that now and take up a gathering class too.
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06-09-2014, 04:13 AMEstellios
You will be fine switching to Thaumaturge now if you want to try it. You also get a 50% XP boost until it hits level 15 since your Arcanist is a higher level than it.
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06-09-2014, 11:23 PMRev1170
I think at your 15 job quest you unlock the ability to change jobs (its been awhile). But you wont have an airship pass to go to any other cities yet. I started with the same class and hated it too, I rerolled as an arc and loved it until I felt more comfortable with the game then leveled my PLD.
If you are not happy with the job switch, I know for experience that forcing yourself through the game is not fun and you will end up quitting.
One last note if you do reroll you are more than welcome to come to my server and level with me us, I have a few friends who play and I am working on new jobs with them. -
06-10-2014, 12:09 AMAnova
Welcome to the game, Vivi.
It is the Lv.10 class quest (From the Arcanist Guild: Tactical Planning) you have to finish to change classes.
The Lv.15 story quest (The Lominsan Envoy) opens up access to airship travel which will let you travel to Ul'dah and the thaumaturge guild.
You will spend some more time leveling up thaumaturge from Lv.1, but you get a 50% xp bonus when leveling any combat class lower than your highest one.
I would wait until at least Lv.10 before pursuing any crafting classes. Unlock guildleves and use them to quickly level up your craft/gather classes (For Lominsans: Leves of Swiftperch). Get as many up to Lv.15 as possible to unlock cross-class abilities and good/excellent conditions. These will help you craft hq items and increase your xp gain while minimizing material costs and crystal shards expended as well. Later on, at Lv.42, the money cost for these will become less important and you will have access to more nq mats.
Be sure to do the initial levequests in every aetheryte point you come across. You will be required to finish those initial levequests to unlock all leves in that area. This will help you with xp and minimize backtracking later on for crafting/gathering.
BTW, you gain 1 Leve for every 4 hours, for 6 for every 24 hour period. You can store up to 100 of them. Try to use them before you max out. They are a great source for free crafting materials, gil, and xp.
There are several ways to quickly level up to 15.
When solo, do the hunting log and FATEs from lv.1 to Lv.10. Equip AERO on to your thaumaturge as an instant-cast ability if other players are killing the enemies too fast for you to get credit. After Lv.10, you can run guildhests, guildleves, and FATEs in Aleport (West La Noscea). Do as many quests as you feel you need to keep your sanity.
An alternative is to leash yourself with a lv.50 WHM (not party, but have them help you). The WHM casts REGEN on you to keep you alive and you will hit every enemy you can with AERO (or some other instant-cast ability). Enemies will aggro on to the WHM who finishes groups off with HOLY. Since you two are not partied and you initiated the fights, you will get full xp from these kills. This is probably the fastest and most mindless way to reach Lv.17 and unlock roulettes, assuming you don't spend too much time looking for the WHM.
Good luck and have fun. -
06-10-2014, 12:24 AMLordPhantomhive
And remember at 30 you get to unlock the class, so you have to take an additional job to 15 for thaumaturge to become black mage. In this case it'd be taking Archer to 15 to make a black mage at 30.
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06-10-2014, 11:24 AMAdoraBella
In my opinion (as a lvl 50 sch/smn), ACN doesn't really get fun until you hit 30. Once you can choose scholar or summoner, it's crazy fun. Don't give up!
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06-10-2014, 04:34 PMGarlyleTo be honest, that's a lot of classes. Some classes are more entertaining than others at low levels, although mostly only when you try to play them to maximum efficiency (eg swapping in/out of cleric stance as Conjurer to maximize healing and damage output, or dancing around enemies as Pugilist to maximize ability effectiveness).Quote:
Originally Posted by AdoraBella
Arcanist is kinda painful when your game play consists of "maintain two DoTs and spam Ruin", but as you get more cooldowns, DoTs to maintain, pet abilities, etc., it gets more interesting. -
06-11-2014, 05:10 AMLordPhantomhiveAh this, I totally regret not doing a gathering job first, it saves cost on later materials and once you get going in the end game side, if you're like me.. you'll find you're less enticed to go out and get it done lol.. /slacker <-- But eventually I'll go back to spending time with those trees.. and shrubs.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lala_vivi
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06-11-2014, 01:24 PMaerololThaumaturges (or any other class) can't equip Bio...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anova
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06-12-2014, 12:53 AMAnovaOops. Sorry. Was probably thinking Aero from CNJ then. Thanks for the correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by aerolol
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06-12-2014, 06:56 AMNiwashi
I'm going to focus on just one of the questions from this thread: "when is it a good time to start crafting?"
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Originally Posted by Sebastos
As these quotes from posts above show, there's a significant difference of opinion when it comes to crafting. But I'll throw in both my opinion and the reasons for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anova
A few levels that are significant for your main combat class to reach:
Level 10: You have to complete the level 10 class quest on your first class before the option to change classes is unlocked, so this is the earliest point at which adding crafting classes is even possible.
Level 15: The main scenario quest The Lominsan Envoy (or its equivalents for characters starting in other cities) unlocks airship (and ferry) travel between the three main cities. You'll need this before you can join crafting guilds located in the other cities.
Level 17: The main scenario quest The Scions of the Seventh Dawn unlocks the ability to hire retainers. These are NPC assistants who can do several things for you, including holding excess inventory items. Once you get deeply into crafting, you're going to accumulate a lot of crafting ingredients and supplies, so you'll need that extra storage space.
Level 20: Once you get to the part of the main scenario that has you join a Grand Company, you'll be able to undertake supply/provisioning missions for your GC. These are daily quests to make one item (per crafting class) or gather a set of 10 items (per gathering class) to give your GC. This gives a huge chunk of XP (especially if you manage to make High-Quality items) as well as a bunch of GC seals.
Level 20: The other advantage once you join a Grand Company, is that it unlocks the quest My Little Chocobo, which gives you a mount and the ability to ride it. Although not directly useful for crafting itself, it can be useful for gathering classes, and it's a good idea to level gathering in conjunction with crafting.
If you're going to take the time to pursue crafting, it would be sort of a waste to do all that but not use it to make your own gear, so it's useful to keep your crafting classes up to near the same level as your top combat class. Conversely, you want your top combat class to keep up to near the same level as your crafting classes, so that you can unlock the guildleves for the appropriate regions. This means you should ideally alternate enough that they all stay roughly on par with each other (within maybe four or five levels or so).
So my recommendation:
Once you reach level 15 in the main story and can reach all three starting cities, unlock the crafting and gathering classes and try out the first couple levels on them. (Don't worry about the fact that they seem overly simplistic at levels 1 or 2. Just as with combat, it gets more involved as you go up in levels. At this point, it's mainly about seeing how the overall interface works.)
Once you reach either level 17 in the main story and can get a couple retainers for their storage space, or at the latest at level 20 in the main story when you get your chocobo, it's time to take a little time off from combat to try to get your crafting/gathering classes to catch up on leveling. You'll want them high enough to make the next set of gear you'll be wanting for your main. In particular, you'll want to get them up to level 15, which adds the first set of skills that can be cross-classed from one crafting class to the others.
After that, just alternate often enough to keep your crafting abilities useful to your combat classes. As mentioned, this generally means keeping them near the same level as your top combat class.
(I've actually fallen a little behind myself, and it's getting annoying that I can't make better gear than my Bard already has. So I've been focusing on the crafting lately, trying to catch up again.)