No changes to expert roulette?

So the biggest forum complaint for a while has been expert roulette, more specifically if you got Brayflox, and how people abandon after second boss due to no myth on final boss...
But patch notes state myth increase to all roulette EXCEPT expert.
Really disappointing, expert has become a cesspool of people abandoning after second boss, and would of hoped with the promise myth increase it wouldn't of been overlooked /sadpanda

Just to correct you. The change needed would be for Brayflox hard in specific not expert roulette since those that leave after 2nd boss are those that queue for Brayflox hard specifically. They just end up with those that are queuing expert roulette.

And yeah. I'm quite disappointed that there isn't a change, though my data centre luckily doesn't seem to have those kind of players.

Not that I needed corrected as it also includes halatali hard, not so much lost city as I'm use to seeing people just fake dc if they get that come up
Just sad they ignored expert

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Not that I needed corrected as it also includes halatali hard, not so much lost city as I'm use to seeing people just fake dc if they get that come up
Just sad they ignored expert

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Just pointing out that if they indeed made a change to expert roulette but ignored Brayflox hard, it wouldn't change a thing since those that leave after 2nd boss aren't queuing expert roulette.

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Originally Posted by Pantz

Just pointing out that if they indeed made a change to expert roulette but ignored Brayflox hard, it wouldn't change a thing since those that leave after 2nd boss aren't queuing expert roulette.

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Oh I agree but they couldn't just change Brayflox and ignore the other two (not arguing btw)
Example being halatali hard mode two days ago, flawless run and fast, second boss dies and tank leaves, both DPS follow, so I left and requed as healer for expert got Brayflox and the same tank, pointed out in party they just left after second boss, he apologised and said connection issues (unlikely story) second boss dies and they left again...

Make penalty for duty DC too, fixes it all. If someone have really dc issues, it is in his best interest to try fix them before requeue duties, and 30min is a fair time.

changing expert roulette won't do anything to stop people leaving after 2nd boss. SE need to change brayflox stones distribution, not the roulette

Again as much as it happens in Brayflox, halatali also has issues with people leaving after second boss, reason I said roulette as it encompasses all three of the dungeons that have no myth on final boss so people leave after second

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Again as much as it happens in Brayflox, halatali also has issues with people leaving after second boss, reason I said roulette as it encompasses all three of the dungeons that have no myth on final boss so people leave after second

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True. Since a few weeks ago if you got Halataly Hm you could be sure you would get to the last boss, now people have started to abandon this dungeon too. If quitting after joing a party via Duty Roulette / Duty Finder was punished with a sanction in myth maybe things would be different.

I expected that the "myth drop increase" they talked about would be myth dropping from the final bosses on the extreme roulette dungeons, that would both help the ones farminng and prevent people from leaving.

Instead they increased Crystal tower to 150 wich makes absolutely no sense to me.

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Originally Posted by Ashgarth

I expected that the "myth drop increase" they talked about would be myth dropping from the final bosses on the extreme roulette dungeons, that would both help the ones farminng and prevent people from leaving.

Instead they increased Crystal tower to 150 wich makes absolutely no sense to me.

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Ya assumed the same instead they give extra myth to places that didn't have people leaving due to lack of myth issues like low lvl roulette, high level and CT

WOAH. I thought I was looking at someone replying to their own posts.

Lol no we both just have good taste when it comes to character creation

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Originally Posted by Gardes

WOAH. I thought I was looking at someone replying to their own posts.

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Lol no we both just have good taste when it comes to character creation

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Don't be silly. My character is prettier. :D

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Originally Posted by Pantz

Don't be silly. My character is prettier. :D

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Yes I spent far too much time fishing in costa del sol so I have a tan

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Originally Posted by Gerolan

Yes I spent far too much time fishing in costa del sol so I have a tan

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That explains it. I spend a lot of my time in the FC house sitting at a specific corner waiting for my queue to pop.

Not only people quitting after 2nd boss, but I ran into a situation where we died on the last boss once because we didn't clear all the little bombs in time. So the tank threatened to leave saying:

The tank said "If we fail again, I'm leaving. Already have sold capped."

1) I understand that this reflects his character as a person, but 2) if there was some myth, even if there was a shitty conversion rate of 30 sold = 15 myth if capped he probably wouldn't be so quick to flake out of the rest of the party.

At least they corrected the flaw that people can leave the dungeon early before it has begun without receiving a penalty. But I doubt this will clear the problem completely.

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Originally Posted by Niota

Not only people quitting after 2nd boss, but I ran into a situation where we died on the last boss once because we didn't clear all the little bombs in time. So the tank threatened to leave saying:

The tank said "If we fail again, I'm leaving. Already have sold capped."

1) I understand that this reflects his character as a person, but 2) if there was some myth, even if there was a shitty conversion rate of 30 sold = 15 myth if capped he probably wouldn't be so quick to flake out of the rest of the party.

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I agree. Converting excess Sol gained to Myth (doesn't have to be 1:1 ratio) when we reach the cap would be a fairly good solution.

How come this never happened to me. Some people must have all the luck in DF groups.

Remember guys "Exercising the Right" w

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Originally Posted by Darkshade

How come this never happened to me. Some people must have all the luck in DF groups.

Remember guys "Exercising the Right" w

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This has never happened to me too. Must be more of a data centre thing.

Anyway, thought I should chime in since any changes they make to solve this would affect me anyway. And I like thinking of ways to solve things too.

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Originally Posted by Darkshade

How come this never happened to me. Some people must have all the luck in DF groups.

Remember guys "Exercising the Right" w

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Had the mysterious disappearing player act after 2nd boss happen to me all of twice, so I'm ... fortunate there?

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Originally Posted by Niota

The tank said "If we fail again, I'm leaving. Already have sold capped."

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Had this happen too, not on Bray HM mind you, but the tank threatened to leave after one wipe on Pharos Sirius before. It was on 2nd boss (Zu with the eggs) even though he's the one that for some ungodly reason destroy the eggs all the time and keep stacking enrage on Zu to the point of it spamming the ground stomp move lol.

as for 2nd boss leaving, I only had it happen once on Bray HM out of 350-360 something odd runs, so I count myself lucky lol. Is it always Tanks that leave? Honest question because I also tank 99% of the time in Bray HM (unless I got asked to help FC/LS members and they need dps/heal slot XD) and it was one of those rare times I went as dps that I got one tank that just left after 2nd boss lol.

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Originally Posted by Shenandoah

Had this happen too, not on Bray HM mind you, but the tank threatened to leave after one wipe on Pharos Sirius before. It was on 2nd boss (Zu with the eggs) even though he's the one that for some ungodly reason destroy the eggs all the time and keep stacking enrage on Zu to the point of it spamming the ground stomp move lol.

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Ugh, yeah. It's worse when the person failing the most decides they're too good for the party. I am not perfect and make mistakes and I'm usually good about saying so myself and apologizing. But still... @_@;

there is an "hidden" change to expert roulette: the daily quest for the new map