XI Crossover Idea

The Crystal Tower got me to thinking, would anyone other than me want to visit some of the fights/places/HNM/Bosses of Vana'diel in XIV?

Perhaps do some sort of crossover with having Shantotto having to bring us into an FFXI BCNM to fight some of that worlds battles with XIV graphics and mechanics.

I personally think it would be awesome fan service for those of us that played XI, and a neat semi-look into the game for those that didn't.

inb4 stop trying to make 14 like 11

Personally I feel it's more like trying to make XI into XIV really. I just thought it would be awesome to have a reason to fight AV or PW within the scope and game-play style of XIV. I'd love to see some of that world with XIV's graphical capability, like a pseudo sequel to XI, without actually being a sequel. Much like how CT is to III, I mean for it to be something similar to that for XI. Maybe that's just me though.

Other than having NM's, I like XIV how it is, even though I still play XI and enjoy the game immensely since I started playing back at release, I don't want to copy over much if anything from the game.

I don't think we've seen the last of Shantotto. They left that *very* open ended.

FFXI is still operational , no point to make XI from XIV , just go play XI

I was kinda bummed we didn't get any vanity gear from the XI crossover event. It would've been fun to have everyone running around in scorpion harnesses and O hats or something.

I hope they do another one sometime.

I think FFXI is still too fresh to be ripping stuff directly from it. Nostalgia is a powerful thing, just let the dev team continue to create original content. (although they seem to be taking a lot of influence from FF3 in the case of Crystal Tower, but a lot of people haven't played that game so it's not such a bad thing I think)

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Originally Posted by Vladislav

FFXI is still operational , no point to make XI from XIV , just go play XI

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Shall we keep a tally of the number of people who comment based on the title alone without actually reading the posts ? =P

I think it would be interesting to see them redo some of the more memorable and epic fights in something like CT or another classic/retro themed dungeon.

Bringing in idea from XI would be a great idea..


But all the people who never played XI feel it was one of the worst mmo ever made.

Unless the content came from WoW it is 100% no go in XIV. WoW Clone only.

I think it would be awesome to see quite a few fights that are from previous FF games. Maybe one old-timey fight per new dungeon. Most of us have played the majority of the games and would love to see the fights with crazier mechanics and better graphics. I'm not sure if they could work everything into the lore, but personally, I wouldn't care if they could or couldn't. I'd just love to relive some things from the good ole days.

1) community forums are a place for people to share ideas and thoughts FF related

2) if you don't agree with the op then just say nope! Flaming is for people that ride the little yellow bus in their minds.

3) anyone who has played FF from say ever, is into the lore, the epic-ness of conflict and teamwork involved in prior releases.

4) in case you haven't noticed. Oh I forgot, you don't do FF lore or redo's. Everything in 14 is either a re-skin or a sequel to every FF before it, down to the mobs and bosses we fight now.

Nice thought OP! Nothing wrong with fresh into the complaint section :)

I'll be forced to say "nope". Not that I don't like the idea of NM, but we are basically getting them under the name of "hunts" in 2.28 (?) or at least 2.3.

One thing I'd love to see coming from FFxi though is the "monster control" (I never played XI so I don't know the exact name sorry) which allowed you to control and level some monsters of your choice. My love for xylomid would be answered a great way :D

edit : just noticed you were talking about raids (I think they are raids right ? Super hard monsters in a time-locked instance for what I know of). Well either way, I think I remember them being some bosses among NM (again, I never played it and talk from "I've been said so" type of experience). If I'm wrong, some reminding of iconic bosses could be cool, I guess

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Bringing in idea from XI would be a great idea..


But all the people who never played XI feel it was one of the worst mmo ever made.

Unless the content came from WoW it is 100% no go in XIV. WoW Clone only.

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It should clone more things from 1.0, like faction leves, Chocobo caravan and Skirmish.
Maybe also Hamlet defence, but I fear people would find it as a grind with a bad RNG (see Atma threads).

I've kinda wanted to see the FF14 version of the sky gods.

I dont want a 'crossover' where something from one world comes to another. There were some neat things in XI that I would think would be nice if they were remade in XIV and incorporated into the lore like CT was.

Like Sea, I'd love to see a place like that in Eorzea

I remember Phantasy Star Universe had a cross over dungeon, where each time you would get paired up randomly with an NPC from PSO. I wouldn't mind something like that. Think Castrum, but instead of Cid they could be like Aldo/Lion/Prishe/Lilith and so on. Maybe even use a zone or layout theme from XI. A 4 man nostalgia dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Vladislav

FFXI is still operational , no point to make XI from XIV , just go play XI

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Boy, I never played XI and I get sick as hell with this argument.
Why not? This game took every idea from other games.

I think FFXIV already has a lot of great allusions to FFXI in it. A lot of monster models are taken from FFXI (final boss from AK for example) and even some named monster make a return (Like the Bubbly Bernie FATE in Western Thanalan), not to mention the playable races are inspired from their Vana'diel counterparts.

Not that I wouldn't mind seeing a boss or two make a return, but it seems like there's a FFXI modeled monster everywhere I turn.

I would love nm fights in any way possible.

It's not "a XI" thing like people say.
A lot of FFa have super mobs to hunt. Just look at IX, III, VI, XII and XII-2 they all have a nm system that's more or less random.

The only way to level chances for everyone is to randomize the spawn locations to the point of being impossible to predict.

I would just love a 1080p HD version of sky/sea. If they remade these with the same challenges but had the beginning pops drop from say, an instance or as gathering rewards, I think it would cure a lot of nostalgia and maybe give those who never played XI (or those who slate it despite never getting past level 10!) an insight to what we miss about the game. Not to mention it'll add tons of open world content. I doubt it'll ever happen but I can dream.

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Originally Posted by Kuwagami

One thing I'd love to see coming from FFxi though is the "monster control" (I never played XI so I don't know the exact name sorry) which allowed you to control and level some monsters of your choice.

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its called "Monstrosity" and I think it would be a good idea as a way to pass time. pretty sure its a popular feature as they are still adding to it on XI

Some of the game specific fights could be a lot of fun to have as boss fights. Maybe once the primal story arc is done we can get them in some kind of arena as our stand alone bosses. I could see Promathia/AV fitting in well there. Maybe even some named NPC's that weren't bosses in XI like Prishe or Aldo.

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Originally Posted by Fawkes

I was kinda bummed we didn't get any vanity gear from the XI crossover event. It would've been fun to have everyone running around in scorpion harnesses and O hats or something.

I hope they do another one sometime.

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Now I want to see scorpion gear in ARR lol

Edit: not necessarily stats comparable, but at least for vanity XD

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Originally Posted by Rhindas

I don't think we've seen the last of Shantotto. They left that *very* open ended.

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I wish we would, Shantotto is the least interesting FFXI character.

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Originally Posted by KokonoeAiyoko

I wish we would, Shantotto is the least interesting FFXI character.

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I guess you never played "A Shantotto Ascension" yet. You'll be surprise the treats SE's giving from that one. XD

Anyhoo, as of XI crossover idea; I don't know if OP has played every inch of XI content or not (this includes every expansion & add-ons), but XIV already have so many design straight taken from XI. Even both game shares several beastmen tribes, with exact same design too.

And if OP haven't noticed it yet, some of things that's have been released on XIV, XI already had it 1st in just short recent time. Ilvl? Adoulin has them introduced. Challenge log? There's Records of Eminence recently introduced in XI. Extreme primals? XI also recently introduced hard version of their popular battles like Divine Might and so on. Atma/Animus? Welcome to XI's reforged relics to ilvl 119. And many more...

As of now, XI currently are bringing waves of new contents which is quite overwhelming that I recently decide to stop playing XI since there's way too many to do there. And pretty soon, the ideas would be carried over to XIV again.

Oh btw, that white lion mount that came from Paladin achievement reward? He was important NPC introduced in latest Adoulin main story. So fast. ^^;

One thing I want to see the most from FFXI is Tu'lia. Imagine Tu'lia in FFXIV Graphic. like. Oh. My. fricking. Gosh.

I don't know, Shantotto is a really interesting character. I mean, if you did any of her quests (not talking about Ascension) you'd know that. That and the fact she's there anytime there's an Alliance meeting... You really learn to fear the character, and tarutaru in general given the rest of the notable Windurst NPCs. Children shouldn't be allowed to lead, ever!

All that aside, I'd like to see more cross-overs but the problem with that is they'd have to keep to low levels to keep things fair and open to all. Personally, though, I think I'd prefer if future crossovers kept things on the low, nothing so big as gear sets like with the Lightning Event (there's a reason we got a full gear set from that).

maybe, if you somehow suffered her wrath. lol

Oh... and I forgot adding her grand entrance at Crystal War era if you play the Windurst mission from Wings of the Goddess. That was wicked too. XD

Besides, Shantoto (and Trishe) was amongst the most popular XI character, so popular that they were also introduced in other media, like the cross-over Dissidia titles.

And there's that laugh, that witch cackle which is too hilarious if you ever see the ending of Shantoto Ascension. XD

I like the Idea. I played XI for a long Time...

First for the guy telling us to go play XI ...
the new XI isn't XI anymore no reason to play it whatsoever!

Second I'd love to see the Arc Angels BCNM on 14!

Third I really liked 1.2+ give us to Kill a Raven (Hard/Extreme) with the Minstrel.

Now for a crossover... seeing how 'Wings of the Godess' ended on XI i'd see room for a Crossover...

I know it's only semi on topic. But based off the cameo appearance idea in general I would love a good 8/16/24 man raid based on the Knights of the Round. . . . like a long series of trials leading up to the fight with "King Arthur". . . . man I'd have a hardcore nerd out at that shiz :D

I've always felt that basing an end-game dungeon off of one of XI's popular leveling areas (valkurm dunes come to mind) would make for a nostalgic experience while still being totally new content. So long as the dungeons invoked the feel of the zone, it would come across nicely

Rather than events and battles, I want to see ffxi armors transferred over. ARR is severely lacking in gear variety after you take out the material types imo and just categorize them based on models.

Before people start disagreeing with me, ARR has taken alot of shortcuts on monster variety. There's too many monsters they straight up lifted from FFXI. There's the goblins, mamool jas, diabolos, turtles, pugils, CRABS, manticores, medusas, giants, dark dragons, puks, demons, uragnites, and many many more that hasnt crossed my mind as I type this. That's not even counting the monsters they also lifted from other FF games.

I'm not sure if it's more work to rescale all the ffxi armor models to arr races (which are already similar in body types outside of the new races and genders) and replace the textures with higher quality version like they did with diabolos, compared to making completely new ones like the ARR team has been doing but they'll be mmo armors so they're not as iconic as say, cloud, lightning, tidus, tifa, squall, etc costumes so it should not be too out of place, right? They're still tabards, scale mails, harnesses, subligars, robes, plate mails etc.

Thanks, but no thanks.

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Originally Posted by Panasync

Personally I feel it's more like trying to make XI into XIV really. I just thought it would be awesome to have a reason to fight AV or PW within the scope and game-play style of XIV. I'd love to see some of that world with XIV's graphical capability, like a pseudo sequel to XI, without actually being a sequel. Much like how CT is to III, I mean for it to be something similar to that for XI. Maybe that's just me though.

Other than having NM's, I like XIV how it is, even though I still play XI and enjoy the game immensely since I started playing back at release, I don't want to copy over much if anything from the game.

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Shinryu from XI would fit lorewise with both games, like Shantotto. I don't AV would since he fits into sea jailers, and the entirety of sea is based off of Gods that don't exist in this universe. Let's be real though, we just need some Jaggedy-Eared Jack loving in XIV.

Divine Might, Salvage, Dynamis, Sea, Sky, BCNM And KSNM, CoP, HNMs, Maat, epic battles in their own right, maybe if given variety of endgame things to do, instead of an ilvl treadmill, could enhance ffxiv gameplay as it did for FFXI.

Yes, please. But put us on the xi servers. I'm actually working on my dragoon af quest & need someone to hit the switch in The Eldieme Necropolis. Anyone?

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Jaggedy-Eared Jack

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Yup, I remember when I was a newbie killing rabbits. Starting hitting one and I did hardly any damage but took a lot of it. It was finally then I noticed the name on it... Fun times.

On the topic... I think I would have to say no.

Since the skill/magic systems are different, I think a lot of people would be disappointed with the fights. Imagine fighting Suzaku and there is no chainspell. Or AV and there is.. well no 2 hour ability.

SKY and SEA remake with FFXIV: ARR GFX plz (not instanced).

Some stuff just seeing NPC's in the world of 14 would be wonderful. But I think we all know how this would turn out.

*Level cap has been raised to 60! Go X,Y to see NPC!*

Isacio - "Hello! I come from a place called Selbina, you will need a Magicked Skull..Crab Apron..Damselfly Worlm.."

New area..Dunes (Hard Mode) has been added!

An area that shows what REALLY can be done with open world like XI did would be awesome.

I do NOT need a XI "skin" over it. I don't need crabs nor goblins as a visual bluff.

What I want the world to feel is the depth and that can be done with the visuals and lore of XIV. It's the loving commitment and the depth XIV is missing. No shantotto minion can give xiv players that feeling.