Thurmaturge OWNED

Wow Thurmaturge just got OWNED!

No AOE Curing
Emulate Nerfed to 30 seconds
MP Cost doubled Potentcy increased
Sac III Single target only now 120 MP
Siphone MP Single target only
Resurrect now 3 minutes 101 MP

Just wow

oh wow, let the nerfs begin.

Well Square apparently wanted Conj to be main cure... and they more then made sure that was gona happened.

Thurm is now simply a debuff and dot based class

lmao, welp, here it comes!

Everyone knew this was coming

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Originally Posted by Elkwood

Wow Thurmaturge just got OWNED!

No AOE Curing
Emulate Nerfed to 30 seconds
MP Cost doubled Potentcy increased
Sac III Single target only now 120 MP
Siphone MP Single target only
Resurrect now 3 minutes 101 MP

Just wow

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fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu now my CON will be main heal at NMs...sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet I suck at healing -.-

When they gave CON all the raises and said we would be getting cure and -ga spells for cure I was pretty sure sacrifice would be made single target. Not really shocked at all.

great so now THM has lackluster cures and crappy debuffs. Well, one less class anyone is going to want to play.

Everyone that wasn't a high level THM already didn't like that THMs could tank and heal past a lot of things!

But those Cure/Sacrifice mp increases, oof.

They did the same to Conjurer, have a look... Healing spells have been reduced to single target and their MP amounts bolstered. Goodbye Raptor parties, or generally any type of party now! There is no "dedicated" healer anymore since your skills only target a single person and take crap loads of MP to cast.

Cure Effects only a single target
MP cost raised from 12 to 45
Cure II Effects only a single target
MP cost raised from 20 to 75
Cure III Effects only a single target
MP cost raised from 36 to 135

EDIT: Nevermind me, I didn't see they added in "ga" variations of spells. Stupid patch note mess... *sigh* So I retract the AoE note.

Curega

Grant succor and ease suffering, restoring HP of the target and nearby party members.
Learned: Conjurer, Rank 16
Cast Time: 2 sec. Recast Time: 10 sec. / MP Cost: 112 / Action Bar Cost: 2

Curega II

Grant succor and ease suffering, restoring HP of the target and nearby party members.
Learned: Conjurer, Rank 30
Cast Time: 2 sec. Recast Time: 10 sec. / MP Cost: 187 / Action Bar Cost: 2

Actually there is mention of AoE spells in the patch notes:

Curega
Grant succor and ease suffering, restoring HP of the target and nearby party members.
Learned: Conjurer, Rank 16
Cast Time: 2 sec. Recast Time: 10 sec. / MP Cost: 112 / Action Bar Cost: 2
Curega II
Grant succor and ease suffering, restoring HP of the target and nearby party members.
Learned: Conjurer, Rank 30
Cast Time: 2 sec. Recast Time: 10 sec. / MP Cost: 187 / Action Bar Cost: 2
* Those players who achieved the aforementioned ranks before patch 1.18 must switch their class to conjurer once before the spells will appear in the Actions & Traits menu.

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Originally Posted by Mihana

And I've noticed there's no mention of AoE variations anywhere in the patch notes. So if people wanna stay alive they'd better keep a heal spell on their action bars for now on. Essentially, if you weren't gonna rank up a DoM class before, you're pretty much gonna be forced to now.

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well then you didnt read enough, because Curaga and Curaga II was mentioned right below Cure II, Cure II, in the same box.

What Albela, Arcell and Leknaat said.

For 187 MP, Curega II... aka Curaga II, better heal 2k HP.

Overall I think this is good for the game. No content was ever going to be challenging with CON's and THM's pissing down endless AOE heals all over everyone.

It was bad game design and it's being fixed.

These new MP-costs for cure spells are frightening. But at the same time, bring it on ;D!

GOOOOOOOD'UH.

You mean I can't just spam sacrifice endlessly and succeed. /wrists

Anyone who didn't see the writing on the wall for THM has no one but themselves to blame.

There was no reason to play CNJ after getting THM to 50. Now there is.

That said, the recasts on Bio and Dia need to be dropped like stones, because THM has definitely been reshaped into a debuff/DoT class that can backup heal (though it'll still be useful for tank healing if the regen effect on Sacrifice hasn't been nerfed). Missing a Dia or Bio hoses THMs DPS, and they should have Poison-esque recasts to compensate.

No AoE on siphon MP /cry

Well, I guess I can now reminisce about the good old days of THM.

This negative thing is a big positive for the game...

It is not longer on easy mode (stand back and spam sacrifice III), mp management is actually important now. That is a good thing.

Nice now i can enfeeble which THM is all about ^^

You know what? I did thm only for debuffs.
FUCK THM HEALER ! GIMME MAH DOTS !

My butthole hurt after reading those notes.

I guess I can't complain that they're fixing the game...I just wish it wasn't my class that got nerfed! Guess it's time to level my conjurer up.

I'm glad i spend the last 3 days farming Dodore. Let the nerf begin!! */dreams of gil!*

Nice, i happened to level CON to 45 and leave my THM in the dust anyways. \o/

Well, at least they didnt restrict the old and high-rank cure/sac to Thaum. I will still use it on my other classes, too bad I will run out of MP faster tho :(. The potency increase on Thaum attacks better be badass to compensate for the reduction of healing ability. BADASS!

My THM's nuts hurt... A lot. At least until we get "job titles" to slap on and become a defined, unique and useful role.

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This negative thing is a big positive for the game...

It is not longer on easy mode (stand back and spam sacrifice III), mp management is actually important now. That is a good thing.

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This. Their decision may be unpopular in the short run, but it was the right thing to do in the long run.

Like, SUPER badass.

The bathrooms here are NUTS.

Well least the silver lining is that no one is gonna expect my THM to heal now :P

Conj's dont know how to heal tho :P. Death too all.

But, now we know who is unlocking WHM for sure. and.... BLM....

And I just got THM to 50! ; ;

Sooo CON is going to be the TOP Nuker and the TOP Healer? all the tanks gonna die, oh gawd~!

Well as a THM, I'm fine with the adjustments. They don't make sense lore-wise or balance-wise, but from a practical and personal standpoint it just means my character is responsible for less in the party while my poor CON friends now have Buffing, Curing, and Nuking duty. Unfortunately this also means fewer party invites for me, as I am now significantly less versatile than my CON brethren.

Well, such is life. (hands over the uber-class crown to nearest Conjurer)

The king is dead! Long live the king of the spellcasters!

yeah take a look at XI. Enfeebling class = suckage no one wants in a party

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Originally Posted by Reika

Conj's dont know how to heal tho :P. Death too all.

But, now we know who is unlocking WHM for sure. and.... BLM....

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... and RDM (mix of white and black magic)

Now my alc can start bashing out ethers (they will get usage, finally !) and sell them for overpriced price ! (if there is no competition on the supply side ;)

I'm fine with the update to THM and cure spells these were needed, but now I really feel they need to lower the recast rate on enfeebs like slow. 50 seconds to recast if it doesnt stick is pretty beat.