Parley Critique

Please adjust the difficulty of parley. I enjoy the idea of parley, it adds a somewhat unique activity to the game. The only other place i have seen something similar would be in elder scrolls oblivion. That being said, there are too many 1 star parleys within the game.

I was thinking along the lines of rank 36 parleys should be 5 star, rank 30 should be 3 star, and rank 20 would be 1 star. Having rank 36 parley's be 1 star difficulty is silly. If anything, i believe 1 star parleys at rank 36 take away from the game.

Also, please have failure of parley place a detrimental effect on the rewards gained. If you fail parleys, for example, you could reduce the number of guild marks garnered from completion of the quest.

And finally, when do we plan on adding abilities to parley? There is an ability button, but unless i am missing something, it has no function.

I hate Parley!

All the Main Scenario missions I did were 5 stars.

I suck at it. D:

I just flat out hate parley, I'm sorry. I can't think of a single redeeming quality that would make me want to keep it in the game. There are much better ways to implement puzzle minigames, like the Bioshock hacking minigame or the lockpicking minigames that some games have. Parley just feels cheap and lazy. I apologize for being so harsh about it but it shows a serious lack of design effort in my opinion.

Parley is just a relic from an earlier vision of the game that has been left to gather dust for the same reason cake building was never implemented.

With any luck, something better like Tetra Master will take it's place.

Parley is worse than Rebecca Black's music.

Triple Triad FTW!

while i agree that it should be harder parley .... i also hate parley cause it's all mixed into the mission battles, there is no place for things like this in missions. i want bosses and mini bosses and party play not parley play in my missions. they should remove them and add them to soemthing else, and for sure they need remove them from battle ones, if they do plan on making any type of missions even close to cop or ffxi missions then waiting for others to parely inbetween is just stupid too. i dunno what they thinking with this, they are rruining missions witch are the best single most important thing for the final fantasy rpg mmo, it's the only thing that set it apart from other mmo's and there stupid box of text quests and no cutsceen missions that no one in there right minds read.

Please make parley less annoying than they already are (like improving the speed 3x), removing it completely would be nice as well. Nice concept, horribly executed.

Kill parley.
And let's hope it takes the retainer wards with it.

I've been R20 for well over a month and have yet to encounter Parley in the game :[

I am one of the odd ones whom actually like playing parley. However, when I do well and get max score, there's no benefit over getting a mere passing score. There should be some small additional reward like perhaps a few thousand gil.

Also, it would be much more greatly appealing if it was an available option to play between players themselves, putting items up for stakes. The fact that it only exists within the means of a few scattered quests makes it feel a tad wasted. Although it was a clever way to give people who didn't have a battle class up to rank the ability to participate in the first few story line missions.
For those who didn't enjoy it, at least you only had to do it a handful of times and never again. For those who did, there's just unfortunately no way to access it once you've completed all your questing. Unless you want to pointlessly play an easy round against the tutorial npc.

Please make it a public option amongst players if possible. Hopefully opening the door for other player to player mini games :)
And before people throw me to the sharks of La Noscea for being a parley fan, I full-heartedly believe a card game would be infinitely cooler :p Especially if the cards were collectable items from participating in other activities in the game.

For the OP, I believe your idea is good and sensible.

I like the idea behind parley, but it currently suffers from the same problem that so much of the game has - it's terribly unfinished in its current state. As it is, luck plays far too much of a factor. There should be abilities that both participants can use that alter the playing field, for better or worse.

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Originally Posted by Dreamer

I like the idea behind parley, but it currently suffers from the same problem that so much of the game has - it's terribly unfinished in its current state. As it is, luck plays far too much of a factor. There should be abilities that both participants can use that alter the playing field, for better or worse.

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Flipping the Table -> Resets the Parley board.

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Flipping the Table -> Resets the Parley board.

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Parley can be nice and is optional on alot of the missions but a new card game would be better^^ This time make it playable in game and have cards as not only drops but make bluemage for instance, whenever it is implemented, to have "Card" ability to we can transform mobs into cards :D Collecting Cards and a nice game of triad would be a great, unique, fun, FF centric mmo activity that would suck alot of people in. Seen lots of threads already about this but just saying there is alot more potential than there is with parley! Should Focus on a new in-game Triad first :)

Parley is easy x.x;;

You rarely Parley >.>

The Parley NPC gives no rewards making it worthless unless you ABSOLUTELY need a Parley fix.

Maybe increase the difficulty.
Make it more event-full.
Some actual discussion while the Parley goes on would be ok!
Make it more diverse in the reactions between NPC the player is Parley with.

Make a "Golden Saucer" zone place and set up gambling!

Do something more with it, or scrap it. imo~

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Originally Posted by WillRiker

Please adjust the difficulty of parley. I enjoy the idea of parley, it adds a somewhat unique activity to the game. The only other place i have seen something similar would be in elder scrolls oblivion. That being said, there are too many 1 star parleys within the game.

I was thinking along the lines of rank 36 parleys should be 5 star, rank 30 should be 3 star, and rank 20 would be 1 star. Having rank 36 parley's be 1 star difficulty is silly. If anything, i believe 1 star parleys at rank 36 take away from the game.

Also, please have failure of parley place a detrimental effect on the rewards gained. If you fail parleys, for example, you could reduce the number of guild marks garnered from completion of the quest.

And finally, when do we plan on adding abilities to parley? There is an ability button, but unless i am missing something, it has no function.

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This could be a very subtle, very good joke. But I can't tell!

Parley flat out sux & is boring. Please replace it with a card game (doesn't matter which).

Parley is fun in concept, but out of place, the mechanics have some cheats in them, and it you are "Forced into winning", and by that I mean the computer decides you're going to win, because they never finished the mechanics. You talk about so many random things, too.

It's also ridiculous on the rank 42 mission when you're standing parleying in front of 8 monsters and a rather large primal.

I don't understand why Tetramaster isn't the parley system [oh wait, yes I do - the game isn't finished], and then you could also play tetra master in game too.

Having it in the main scenario missions is really dumb.

I like Parley a lot, but it's just very basic and luck based right now. I hope they expand on it and balance it out a bit.

Down with the Parley haters.

Away with parley.

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Originally Posted by Fated

I like Parley a lot, but it's just very basic and luck based right now. I hope they expand on it and balance it out a bit.

Down with the Parley haters.

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It's not luck. The core mechanics are broken and it gives you an extra turn to win, plus the computer seems to decide to give you an advantage nearly all of the time with the card drops, or a poor decision on the AI, even at 5 stars.

It's still luck when you choose a 23 point node that connects with a 14 point node because it's the best option on the board and then two 30 point identical panels show up and the opponent takes them and you can't recover.

Everything you posted can be fixed, it's not like you even stated a problem with the game itself. Like I said, it's just very basic right now, I want them to expand on it.

I can't remember what if this was right, but I think the decision it makes at 5 stars is aiming for the single card that has the highest value. Whether or not if that card is aligned with other similar cards for a combo is rather luck upon what random cards appears later.

Since as a human player you always would go for the highest value combo to get a good head start. However, since you are going for the combo, you are basically wiping out 3~4 cards at a time. You have no idea what those cards coming in would be, hence luck. You could try to mix up and ruin possible future combos, but you never know what new card would be coming in next.

I've literally failed the mission's "5 star parley" 6 times or more and almost timed out for the mission. This was because the bar was set so high that if the computer managed to get a 30+ combo at his last turn (which was pretty much any combination) he would have a 90% guarantee win unless if I get a same combo of the same value or higher.

I hate Parley. :( That's all I can say about it, I truly hate it and it makes quests unenjoyable. Well, until you're done with the Parley, then there's joy!