I am not playing bard but my friend (this is his first mmo) does not really know what the job entails and does not wish to be bad. Any bards have advice I can give him so if we do coil or EX modes he wont scrub the ground up so good we can see our reflections?
How to Bard?
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05-25-2014, 12:52 PMVallugHow to Bard?
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05-25-2014, 12:54 PMOPneedNerfs
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05-25-2014, 12:57 PMbloodSp3c
this is all you need to know!
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05-25-2014, 01:01 PMMacka
I not the one to tell people how to play their jobs or suggest people to watch videos but since you asked here you go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdLV...e_gdata_player -
05-25-2014, 01:03 PMKaze3434
dots pew pew pew.
but on a series note, bard is pretty simple. always start with straight shot. the buff is too good. after straight, dot up the enemy, and then move to using heavy shot. weave buffs in between attacks. as a side note; internal release affects the crit rate of your dots, meaning you can get tons of blood leter procs in that time frame. use OGC skills during skill reset. unless there is a need to save blunt arrow, use that too. most important is that bard can help keep other peoples dps going.
you know what, ignore everything i said. that picture is too perfect. -
05-25-2014, 01:09 PMVallugIs there one for Dragoon..this is hilarious xDQuote:
Originally Posted by bloodSp3c
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05-25-2014, 01:20 PMMackaI found a pld one lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Vallug
http://i.imgur.com/yQlze7q.png
http:// http://i.imgur.com/yQlze7q.png -
05-25-2014, 01:56 PMTam_HawkinsWho is doing them? They are are quit funny and would like to see the other classes Versions.^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Macka
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05-25-2014, 01:59 PMLunarEmerald
Don't play songs when you don't need to. Except foe requiem. If you have a caster in your group, foe requiem is always nice. It's the only song that doesn't lower your dps.
If a healer dies and is revived, play mage's ballad to help them get their MP back up. A healer with no MP is pretty useless.
Try to keep an eye on your healer's MP and if falls to 20% or lower, play mage's ballad. This is for white mage. You should almost never have to play ballad for a scholar unless they don't know what the hell they're doing.
Do not run around trying to kite enemies in fates in or dungeons. If you get aggro, you keep your butt still or run to the tank. The only exception is when people want you to kite because they're desperate and you're trying to finish off the enemy.
Give the tank a few seconds to establish aggro before unloading with your cooldowns. Or use quelling strikes. If the tank is inexperienced or you heavily outgear them then definitely use quelling.
Remember that you have to be facing the enemy for your auto attack to work. This is especially important for barrage. Barrage only lasts long enough for 3-4 auto attacks and if you're facing away during one, that's a lot of wasted dps.
Don't be a scrub. Get your lancer to 34 for blood for blood.
If you're doing aoes then keep straight shot up. Many don't seem to realize that it's a flat 10% critical hit increase for everything. Including your aoes. -
05-25-2014, 02:06 PMMackaIdk all I did was a quick Google search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins
Look like this person made the 2 in this thread http://www.reddit.com/user/mcstrongh...ter=t1_cfn0jep -
05-25-2014, 02:08 PMAltijacekYes more of these!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam_Hawkins
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05-25-2014, 02:49 PMCaesir
Let's see... in general...
Straight Shot (*usually you need to keep this buff. ) + Bloodletter ->
Venomous Bite (*keep this dot) ->
Windbite (*keep this dot, and when 2 dots are critical, you have a 50% chance Bloodletter recast time will reset.) ->
Heavy Shot + Bloodletter (*I use a Macro: /ac "Heavy Shot" <t> /wait 1s /ac "Bloodletter" <t>) x N
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If your friend need MORE dps, then, use buff. -
05-25-2014, 04:11 PMSapphicYou want to swap your macro around there. /ac "Bloodletter" first, remove the wait. Heavy shot. If Bloodletter is available it will fire off first and as it can be anim clipped, 2 taps fires em both off. But if Bloodletter isn't available will go straight to heavy shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Caesir
/macroicon "Bloodletter"
/ac "Misery's end" <t>
/ac "Bloodletter" <t>
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
Only macro I use for BRD.
Straight Shot--Internal release (weave into GCD)--Bloodletter---dots. Heavy shot spam weaving in procs for straighter shot, buffs and reapplying dots when needed. -
05-25-2014, 04:27 PMXerich
1. always macro every ability with emotes
2. pull mobs before tank can even get into range
3. legolas your way to the healer
4. shout for heals
5. die anyway
6. leave group
FOLLOW THIS TO SUCCESS. -
05-25-2014, 04:35 PMTeroril
Make a macro with:
/macroicon "Bloodletter"
/ac "Misery's Edge" <t>
/ac "Bloodletter" <t>
/ac "Heavy Shot" <t>
That way you use your cd attacks whenever they're off cd.
Otherwise, it's just about getting a feel for your dot and buff timers, and reapply them when they're just about to run out. Using Fiery Arrow is a marginal dps buff for single target, but might as well throw it in there. Same with Blunt Arrow, if silencing isn't required. It's about finding the time between GCDs when bloodletter or misery's end isn't up
It's pointless to apply dots to targets that die quick (plumes in garuda, gaols in titan)
Then make this macro:
/macroicon "Blood for Blood"
/ac "Internal Release" <me>
/ac "Hawk's Eye" <me>
/ac "Raging Strikes" <me>
/ac "Blood for Blood" <me>
/ac "Quelling Strikes" <me>
/ac "Barrage" <me>
While having all the buffs on your hotbar (with some of them still on hotkeys, so you can activate them separately (I use Hawk's Eye and Barrage a lot in titan ex on gaols, eg).
Using songs (ballad primarily) is a matter of swiftly looking at healer mp, and knowing putting it up, when there isn't a dps race going on. Upping it for a few seconds between phases is something you can do, if you're feeling fancy.
Using Requiem is a question of how many casters are in the group, and wether or not you need mana for ballad later. -
05-25-2014, 07:30 PMObysucaJust like to point out, when not in a fight, constantly keep swiftsong up, it makes running to the next fight a lot quicker. Even if it's only a few second run, still makes it quicker.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarEmerald
Personally, I do it around ~45%. Depending on what you're doing, 20% could be too low if the whm has to spam cures to keep people up.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarEmerald
Now for my brd advice >.> You need to see everything. It's quite different from the standard DD where you just look out for AoEs. As brd, you should be constantly checking over at the mages mp every so often, while looking out for AoEs and anything you should or can if theres nothing dangerous, like a magic AoE like Fire or something being casted, silence. Also, I see so many brds not doing this, but keep your DoTs up as much as possible. Theres so many brds out there who just spam 1-2 skills instead of using their DoTs (actually this applies to a ton of people who never use DoTs lol). Drg spamming their AoE? Paeon. As that image said, it doesn't matter if it lowers your damage, you're support, you help the pt overall do more, not to mention theres damage buff skills you can use if you need more while having ballad or paeon up.
This bugs the crap out of me when I have other brds in my pt. Check the other brd before using a song, it's a waste to have two of the same song up. I've come across so many brds who, while I already have ballad up because of low mp on the healers, that they go and decide to throw it up too and completely ignore that mine was already up and I still have a good chunk of mp left. Not trying to be rude or anything, but is it that hard to take 2 seconds to look at what song, if any, the other brd is using?
Also, bring elixirs and stuff, you can never be too prepared. -
05-25-2014, 09:45 PMLunarEmerald
You don't want off gcds prioritizing on gcds. Bloodletter should only be used in between gcds. Having bloodletter above heavy shot in a macro is not the way to go.
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05-25-2014, 10:03 PMNarissa
Tell him to look up MrHappy guides on Youtube, he does very nice detailed videos of the bard job and updates it every patch. He also streams on Twitchtv :3
Not to mention he does guides on all new/old instances with the Bards point of view!
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAL...aUt-HBBZctO9cg
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05-26-2014, 12:02 AMSapphicDisagree, Bloodletter is first priority when it's available. Due to: Bloodletter used, using heavy shot, during that GCD bloodletter can proc again. so bloodletter-heavy shot-(proc)bloddletter- heavy shot. Which will potentially boost you DPS than using heavy shot first.Quote:
Originally Posted by LunarEmerald
Also it's easier to fire off if it procs whilst applying dots. Instead of using a seperate keybind to weave bloodletter between GCD whilst applying twin shot + dots.