"Cannot use yet."

I want to disable this but can't find the option to do so.
I'm using the following macro:

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/macroicon "Snap Punch"
/ac "True Strike" <t>
/ac "Snap Punch" <t>
/ac "Bootshine" <t>

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This makes it so that I only have to press the one button for all three skills, and it works perfectly.
The macro isn't the problem.
The annoying "Cannot use yet." message that plays the awful error sound every time it goes through the cycle to find the nearest usable skill is.
I've disabled "Display recast timer error message." under Log Window settings and "Error Messages" under log filters, neither have worked.

This is the thing I want gone, and the noise it makes:
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First of all. Monks should NEVER be using macros for their GCD abilities, no ifs ands or buts about it. MNK has a reputation of the highest ST DPS class and using macros like such will never achieve that. It will hinder you much more then you would like, and from what I've heard this macro will fail occasionally and use Bootshine when you wanted to use True Strike

Second to answer your question: There should be options in the log options. I've never ran this macro, but from my experience with the infamous BRD macros, disabling the error messages has indeed worked. I don't remember exactly which since it's been ages since I've disabled them

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

First of all. Monks should NEVER be using macros for their GCD abilities, no ifs ands or buts about it. MNK has a reputation of the highest ST DPS class and using macros like such will never achieve that. It will hinder you much more then you would like, and from what I've heard this macro will fail occasionally and use Bootshine when you wanted to use True Strike

Second to answer your question: There should be options in the log options. I've never ran this macro, but from my experience with the infamous BRD macros, disabling the error messages has indeed worked. I don't remember exactly which since it's been ages since I've disabled them

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Uh
My question was "How do I turn this off?", not "Should I be using macros as a MNK?"
I'll play MNK using macros if I want to. I've never had a problem with it before, and I really don't care about any reputation it might have.
And no, disabling error message hasn't worked. Which is kind of why I specifically said it didn't work.

Greetings,

The development team is continuing to look into making it so you can hide the error message display, and they are working to improve the user-friendliness of the game even more.

Disabling error seems to only work for direct actions buttons and not macro command errors. Just in case someone tells you it works for them and to do the same thing you've tried..

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

First of all. Monks should NEVER be using macros for their GCD abilities, no ifs ands or buts about it. MNK has a reputation of the highest ST DPS class and using macros like such will never achieve that. It will hinder you much more then you would like, and from what I've heard this macro will fail occasionally and use Bootshine when you wanted to use True Strike

Second to answer your question: There should be options in the log options. I've never ran this macro, but from my experience with the infamous BRD macros, disabling the error messages has indeed worked. I don't remember exactly which since it's been ages since I've disabled them

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FFS /10char

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

First of all. Monks should NEVER be using macros for their GCD abilities, no ifs ands or buts about it. MNK has a reputation of the highest ST DPS class and using macros like such will never achieve that. It will hinder you much more then you would like, and from what I've heard this macro will fail occasionally and use Bootshine when you wanted to use True Strike

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I dunno why you'd wanna use Macro's - I find it easy enough and I've not used Macro's for any class.
That being said, it is your choice. At least Camate replied nice and quick :)

i honestly don't understand how that macro is even working for you. without any wait timers, the only skill that would be executed is the first one. the others would be attempt to be activated while the GCD is still active. makes no sense to me. you need wait timers. unless you are just spamming the macro.

besides... macros are rather useless since they removed the ability to use decimal points in the wait timer. though they weren't very useful before either. you can't add any checks or triggers. and can only use 1 wait timer at a time. like you can't have 2 wait timers counting down at the same exact time. the later activated wait timer will reset the earlier and restart the countdown.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

i honestly don't understand how that macro is even working for you. without any wait timers, the only skill that would be executed is the first one.

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It's simple, really - except for Bootshine, each ability in that list can only be used while in a specific PGL stance. True Strike can only be used while in Raptor Form. If you're not in Raptor Form it skips it and tries to use Snap Punch instead. Snap Punch can only be used while in Coeurl Form. If you're not in Coeurl Form it skips that as well, and then does Bootshine.

Macros like this are essential if you want to put all of your abilities and attacks onto a single crosshotbar. As Faith noted, though, this kind of macro DOES sometimes fail, albiet rarely, and will use Bootshine even if it technically should have used Snap Punch or True Strike instead. Rarely or not, a PGL/MNK truly interested in maintaining perfection at all times will be reluctant to use a macro like this because of the occasional failure.

but aren't all those actions on the GCD? if so, then it is impossible that that macro actually works. it sure as hell don't work for me. i tried creating a macro to be lazy on FATE's. it was...

/ac "Heavy Swing"
/ac "Maim"
/ac "Storm's Path"


and i had gotten the same issue with the "cannot use yet." error. however the macro only properly executes Heavy Swing. because there is no wait timer, the macro tries to execute the next two actions while the GCD is still active. hence the error. it's obvious a wait timer is needed. the ONLY way that macro works for me is to spam it.

so ya... i fail to understand how such a macro works for anyone. you can't execute 3 actions at the same bleeding time.

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Originally Posted by BLaCKnBLu3B3RRY

but aren't all those actions on the GCD? if so, then it is impossible that that macro actually works. it sure as hell don't work for me. i tried creating a macro to be lazy on FATE's. it was...

/ac "Heavy Swing"
/ac "Maim"
/ac "Storm's Path"


and i had gotten the same issue with the "cannot use yet." error. however the macro only properly executes Heavy Swing. because there is no wait timer, the macro tries to execute the next two actions while the GCD is still active. hence the error. it's obvious a wait timer is needed. the ONLY way that macro works for me is to spam it.

so ya... i fail to understand how such a macro works for anyone. you can't execute 3 actions at the same bleeding time.

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Because for a monk, you are barred from using the higher actions on the list (thus the error message when the macro tries and fails the first 1/2 lines. Heavy Swing and Maim are always available to use so Heavy Swing is always the answer.

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Originally Posted by Kletian

Because for a monk, you are barred from using the higher actions on the list (thus the error message when the macro tries and fails the first 1/2 lines. Heavy Swing and Maim are always available to use so Heavy Swing is always the answer.

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Exactly. MRD/WAR doesn't have stances it has to be in to use certain abilities. PGL/MNK does. If you play PGL a while it'll become very obvious why such a macro would work. True Strike may be on the GCD, but that doesn't mean you can always use it. You MUST be be in Raptor Form to use it.

A PGL/MNK can never be in more than one form at a time. This macro has an ability that can only be used in Coeurl Form, another ability that can only be used in Raptor Form, and one ability (at the end, which will only go off if the prior two fail) that can be used in any form.

oh okay. i see the way the macro works now. i should have looked at the skill descriptions before hand. and was under the impression the macro was being used to execute 3 actions in a row with only a single press of the button. but i can see now that he would be pressing the button 3 times to execute the whole rotation. interesting.

anyhow, sorry for the confusion. and thank you for explaining! :)

Hello!

Stopping in again to make another follow-up about the error message display.

The main reason that this error message is displayed in the center of your screen is due to the fact that this message has different lengths for each of our supported languages with German being the longest at three lines of text.

As I mentioned the other day, this is still being looked into and we’re not at the point where we can announce an implementation date yet, but we’re also looking into making it so you can change the position of the text. However, in the case that we do implement a feature such as this, we plan on limiting it to top or bottom positioning and display size changes.

I'd like it off too.
I use the lazy BRD macro which is append mysery's end and bloodletter to every single skill so I always have that appearing on the screen.

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Originally Posted by Camate

The main reason that this error message is displayed in the center of your screen is due to the fact that this message has different lengths for each of our supported languages with German being the longest at three lines of text.

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Now I'm just curious what the heck the German message actually says, to be three lines long... (I'm just over here thinking of three different ways to say "Cannot use now" in German, and none of them would take more than one line.) Interesting!

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Originally Posted by sarehptar

Now I'm just curious what the heck the German message actually says, to be three lines long... (I'm just over here thinking of three different ways to say "Cannot use now" in German, and none of them would take more than one line.) Interesting!

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"Kann jetzt nicht verwenden" shouldn't take 3 lines, lol.

The longest message i know you can get (in the chat) is the equivalent for "<t> is not a valid target.":

"Der Unterbefehl [Name des Ziels] an der 2. Stelle des Textkommandos (<t>) ist fehlerhaft." - which basically translates: "The subinstruction [Name of the target] at the 2nd position of the textcommand (<t>) is faulty."

So no real clue what he's talking bout, two friends of mine both play on the german client and don't really remember any multiple liners directly on screen :x

('-')/

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Originally Posted by Camate

Hello!

Stopping in again to make another follow-up about the error message display.

The main reason that this error message is displayed in the center of your screen is due to the fact that this message has different lengths for each of our supported languages with German being the longest at three lines of text.

As I mentioned the other day, this is still being looked into and we’re not at the point where we can announce an implementation date yet, but we’re also looking into making it so you can change the position of the text. However, in the case that we do implement a feature such as this, we plan on limiting it to top or bottom positioning and display size changes.

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Does this include the "The boss room will seal off in 15 seconds!" or "The Catoblepas eye glows an eerie yellow" messages? Because I really hate where that little black box shows up, and I want to move it.

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Originally Posted by RaphaelDDL

I'd like it off too.
I use the lazy BRD macro which is append mysery's end and bloodletter to every single skill so I always have that appearing on the screen.

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Enjoy having less DPS because all of your macro'd abilities don't queue. You're automatically going to lose up to 0.3 seconds every action depending on how fast you spam your keys and your ping.
On that note, SE please make /ac commands queue like normal actions do.

This thread is about "flaming the system- telling us that we're doing something wrong", very amusing.

On that note, as a MNK, I don't see anything wrong with saving space in putting 2-3 actions under a macro + I'm a controller user. I would consider the GCD on each action by reading the description and try that with a "wait" command.

As long as you follow the GCD on each action, I don't think you'll get an error tho I know by following the combos, skill speed may vary. Check it out!

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Originally Posted by NintenPyjak64

First of all. Monks should NEVER be using macros for their GCD abilities, no ifs ands or buts about it. MNK has a reputation of the highest ST DPS class and using macros like such will never achieve that.

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