In Game Chat (Why is there no option for this yet! It is kind of archaic not to have)

I love playing this game on my PS4. My first mmorpg experience was FFXI on the PS2, which I promptly upgraded to 360 when it became available. I loved that I could party chat with fellow 360 players. 10 years later I feel that many standards have been set for MMORPGS and one of them is that players must have a party chat option to run end game dungeons. When I say must this is obviously not 100% true but the ability to communicate is key to running dungeons smoothly and for accurately and quickly communicating strategies to new players etc. Why then is such a simple function not implemented in the game. If players could invite each-other to in game chat it would make end game much easier and enjoyable for all. Of course, there will be trolls but o-well but that is why a mute option could be used.

The main reason I brought this up is because I want to petition for an in game chat option to be added in a future patch.

Hrm 130 views and no replies.. I am pretty shocked. I cannot be the only one who wants to be able to chat in end game dungeons without having to download a 3rd party program. Well if you disagree then say something I guess. I don't really see any reason to not put the option in though. Hell we pay a monthly fee for a reason right?

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Going to say it again. IN game voice chat option please.

All the devs have said on the matter is that they don't want people to HAVE to use it, which is silly since the only time it would be compulsory from the community is when it's really needed (eg. BCoB or any other dungeon/ raid within the first week or two after it's launched). It's very difficult, or at least cumbersome to type all of the many instructions required to properly get people through Titan EX, Twintania, etc. and this would be seriously alleviated with in game voice chat. Not only that, people could stop relying so heavily on youtube if quick and easy communication was implemented in game. I feel like the developers are just saying they don't want players to feel like they have to have a headset (such items are cheap for PC and nearly all console gamers have them if they play online at all) so that they don't have to pay for the extra overhead of providing the service.

Heck, i dont want to use this either. We've been happily typing through things for ages now.

Why would you force me to listen to 12 year old boys who sound like little girls, screaming at you to take a certain position? Or all the diffirent accents, diffirent mic volumes and diffirent languages being used?

Last thing i want to do after comming home from a long day of work is to shout through a microphone in a foreign language so people can hear me. I want to sit down, play and relax. And maybe type a thing or two.

If you need to do something hard that doesnt allow for a lot of typing, explain the fight before hand. Or make warning Macro's. Or just use shorthand or type words. I can type lots of things in between ability cooldowns, and i'm tanking even. Just think of what more you can do being a lazy DPS class.

Everyone, and I do mean everyone, that I have spoken with (on Excalibur and Behemoth) agrees that an in-game chat option should be placed. There are ps3 and ps4 people being shunned from end game content because they do not have voice chat (TS3, Vent, Mumble).

Other MMOs offer this ability as an option. To keep up to date with what gamers want then the devs of ffxiv should offer in game voice chat as well. We pay monthly fees to play this game and we expect to play a game with options that should be standard within all MMOs that have raiding dungeons.

If you do not want to use the voice chat, that is your choice. If you are a racist that can not stand other languages and accents, well... that's your problem.

I recommend that the voice chat option be available only in 8+ man instances, where it is truly needed.

I can type/write english but i didnt had a teacher to get used to listen or speak it by voice.... forced use of voice chat would be a valid reason for me to quit the game, i doubt i be the only one on this situation. This do add up to the discrimination by language somehow to some few of us.

Lets settle the "Forced to use" issue right now. Have you not played xbl.You can invite people to chat parties. Who said it would be forced on anyone? Having the option to invite people in your party or friends list into a chat party is hardly forcing anyone to chat. It is not an issue of why it shouldn't be implemented but an issue as why is hasn't.

Pro's
More options other than a third party program for chatting. (This also caters to multiplatform users.) As of now you must use a smartphone/pc and a third party to chat, which is archaic.
Easy to explain instruction and better end game communication.
Praise for FFXIV implementing something that should have been there day one. (I cannot think of a mmorpg/fps/moba/etc. in which in game chat would be a bad thing.)

Cons
Trolls
Having to deal with horrible people but thats what the mute button is for.


Point being we pay a subscription and there are no reasons why a chat function should not be added to the game.

It becomes somehow forced the moment you are in a party with 7 people of wich all the 7 people are pressing you to get on chat voice too cause they consider you a down for dont do it and possibly just solve it by kickiin you out the group (here is the discrimination)

I for one dont care about in in game voice chat. If we get it i will mute it and if we dont i'm fine by it. If is soooooo a nececity for you we have alternative voice chat, and a lot for that matter. As you said in the OP you had in game voice chat because that was a xbox 360 feature not a SE feature. Same with the ps4 right now, they have in game voice chat because is a ps4 feature and can only be use by other ps4 people.

For those again who believe this would force you to use it... or find it discriminatory. IF that was the case it would be like that now with all the PC players using Ventrillo. Again no one can make you do anything. YOu may have PF groups that say voice chat is the must but I highly doubt you would have that problem in the Duty Finder. Maybe just make it so that there is no Party Chat in Duty Finder... Bam all your problems solved.

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Originally Posted by Myrhn

I for one dont care about in in game voice chat. If we get it i will mute it and if we dont i'm fine by it. If is soooooo a nececity for you we have alternative voice chat, and a lot for that matter. As you said in the OP you had in game voice chat because that was a xbox 360 feature not a SE feature. Same with the ps4 right now, they have in game voice chat because is a ps4 feature and can only be use by other ps4 people.

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Again just because you wont use it others should not have the option? PS4 voice chat does not solve the issue of cross platform/multiplatform chat. So your point is weak.

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Originally Posted by Yoly

Everyone, and I do mean everyone, that I have spoken with (on Excalibur and Behemoth) agrees that an in-game chat option should be placed.

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You've never talked to me then, I'm on Excalibur and quite frankly I think the idea of a forced in game chat system is not just a bad idea, but one that is rife with potential issues that i have no desire to deal with. The connection is spotty at best already, forcing new code for something that requires additional connectivity with the servers that already have such lag issues is just not something I'm willing to deal with. The game is optimized to allow people on lower end connections to play in the first place, I don't think it's fair to take that away because of the concept of including something that can easily be added by many third party options.

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Originally Posted by Cassandaria

You've never talked to me then, I'm on Excalibur and quite frankly I think the idea of a forced in game chat system is not just a bad idea, but one that is rife with potential issues that i have no desire to deal with. The connection is spotty at best already, forcing new code for something that requires additional connectivity with the servers that already have such lag issues is just not something I'm willing to deal with. The game is optimized to allow people on lower end connections to play in the first place, I don't think it's fair to take that away because of the concept of including something that can easily be added by many third party options.

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My reply is posted below

^^^^^ First off, who said anything about forced? There are so many ways to implement a chat system that doesn't force chat use.... Make it to where it can only be used in Party Finder.. O.M.G! Problem solved... holy crap A solution that is a compromise! God forbid we do something other than complain! Use your brains and fix the problem. If you cannot play this game with chat then upgrade your internet... it takes very little strain on internet connection to run a chat system. But if you still want to argue that point... again just make it an option for Party Finder and guess what! Problem solved yet again!

And again you complain about fair. How is it fair for console users to be penalized because they can't or should not be required to download some random 3rd party program that is a staple in practically, if not all, multiplayer games developed today?

First, I'm all for a compromise, allow it to be disabled entirely to allow the server hit to be lowered. Second, not everyone can just magically "upgrade" their internet, I live rural and I'm lucky to have high speed at all, even if it's no better than dial up. As for the impact, at least on my connection I've tried to run third party programs as well and it just wont, you argue to not have people on consoles penalized for voice chat, I argue to not punish people on bad internet that they cannot upgrade further because of a lack of infrastructure to not be penalized either, so, you have an in game compromise, try a real world one too.

I am sure there is a way to implement the voice chat and minimize the effects that it has on internet connectivity. Like I said, just make it available for those who are using party finder. People PC users not playing with multi platform users will most likely stick with 3rd party. But those who do not have that option or prefer to not use 3rd party chat options can use in game voice chat.... I think you are blowing the voice chat thing out of proportion.