I'm almost too strong since getting WAR...

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05-19-2014, 04:25 AM
Diablo-Cyrus

I'm almost too strong since getting WAR...

Crazy, I am almost to level 42 for MAR, but I went and did GLA to 15, which I'll eventually take to 22. But after getting WAR and the skills that come with it, my character is insanely strong it seems like. I have over 3000hp, and when I do quests the monster barely nick me.
05-19-2014, 04:31 AM
Urthdigger

You're a tank. You're now specialized even further as a tank. Go figure that's what happens. Not to worry, endgame will be sure to smack you right back down.
05-19-2014, 04:36 AM
Diablo-Cyrus

I hope so because it's not even fair. I meant over 3000 with defiance and my bonus's on.
05-19-2014, 09:13 PM
TomTom1968

Look forward to beeing a Ilevel 90+ tank in dungeons where you have the Echo effect and a whoppin' 10k+ HP pool but still get sacked in under 5 seconds. :xd
05-20-2014, 03:05 AM
Garlyle

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Look forward to beeing a Ilevel 90+ tank in dungeons where you have the Echo effect and a whoppin' 10k+ HP pool but still get sacked in under 5 seconds. :xd

Yup!

But yes, of all the classes, I think Marauder feels it the most when they change into Warrior. The added VIT + the huge boosts on Defiance add up to feel particularly massive; compared to some of the classes where it almost feels like you don't really need to class change until 35 if you really want because the level 30 skill is just... 'eh'.
05-20-2014, 03:12 AM
Ketsuyame

Forget endgame. You may feel like Clark Kent with that "S" on his chest now, but wait till you get to Aurum Vale, and the final battle in the story mode. They'll show you just how squishy you are. Very true, Warr. Hp pool is sickeningly huge, especially if you add all skill points to VIT and your ilvl avg is 90+. But the damage mitigation/defense is bad. Hence the huge hp pool. I play Pldn and while I only have around 6k hp, my damage mitigation skills are the geez knees. Face it. Warriors are squishy.
05-20-2014, 03:13 AM
Cap75

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Look forward to beeing a Ilevel 90+ tank in dungeons where you have the Echo effect and a whoppin' 10k+ HP pool but still get sacked in under 5 seconds. :xd

Lol. Quoted for truth. Trust me OP, you will hit a point where you don't feel too strong at all and 10K hp doesn't feel like a whole lot.
05-20-2014, 03:14 AM
Ketsuyame

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Originally Posted by Ketsuyame

Forget endgame. You may feel like Clark Kent with that "S" on his chest now, but wait till you get to Aurum Vale, and the final battle in the story mode. They'll show you just how squishy you are. Very true, Warr. Hp pool is sickeningly huge, especially if you add all skill points to VIT and your ilvl avg is 90+. But the damage mitigation/defense is bad. Hence the huge hp pool. I play Pldn and while I only have around 6k hp, my damage mitigation skills are the geez knees. Face it. Warriors are squishy.

Edit: and btw, story mode/outside bosses and mobs hit SIGNIFICANTLY less than Instance/dungeon mobs
05-20-2014, 05:39 PM
Sapphic

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Originally Posted by Ketsuyame

Forget endgame. You may feel like Clark Kent with that "S" on his chest now, but wait till you get to Aurum Vale, and the final battle in the story mode. They'll show you just how squishy you are. Very true, Warr. Hp pool is sickeningly huge, especially if you add all skill points to VIT and your ilvl avg is 90+. But the damage mitigation/defense is bad. Hence the huge hp pool. I play Pldn and while I only have around 6k hp, my damage mitigation skills are the geez knees. Face it. Warriors are squishy.

Warriors aren't that squishy at all. I've tanked ex primals and upto Turn 5 as both PLD and WAR. Healed them both in same content. Some cases, the big HP pool of WAR make them easier to heal than PLD. especially from things like Mountain buster and Death sentance. So no, WARs arent squishier than PLD.
05-22-2014, 02:31 AM
Lemon8or

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Originally Posted by Ketsuyame

wait till you get to Aurum Vale, and the final battle in the story mode.

Are we playing the same game? Even in 2.0, I never felt squishy at these dungeons/battles.

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Originally Posted by Ketsuyame

But the damage mitigation/defense is bad. Hence the huge hp pool. I play Pldn and while I only have around 6k hp, my damage mitigation skills are the geez knees. Face it. Warriors are squishy.

Says the one with level 0 Marauder. Please do more research/actually play the job before bashing it.
05-24-2014, 01:04 AM
moudoka

I felt the same way leveling my WAR. Huge boost to HP, and some pretty good skills to boot. I haven't played a Paladin (My GLA is barely 22), so I can't say, but from what I've seen, WAR's have an advantage with their massive HP pool. We don't have the defense that a Paladin has, but I can pop a few CDs and take -60% damage, which ain't bad. Some of the endgame stuff hits extremely hard, and I've watched Paladins burn to a crisp on Ifrit, while I dance around in the flames with thousands of HP left xD
05-25-2014, 07:57 AM
Sapphic

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Originally Posted by moudoka

I felt the same way leveling my WAR. Huge boost to HP, and some pretty good skills to boot. I haven't played a Paladin (My GLA is barely 22), so I can't say, but from what I've seen, WAR's have an advantage with their massive HP pool. We don't have the defense that a Paladin has, but I can pop a few CDs and take -60% damage, which ain't bad. Some of the endgame stuff hits extremely hard, and I've watched Paladins burn to a crisp on Ifrit, while I dance around in the flames with thousands of HP left xD

Actually the base defence of WAR and PLD is exactly the same. Only difference is block. If a PLD fails to block they take the same damage as a WAR. Wearing the same gear of course.
05-25-2014, 08:20 AM
Anapingofness

Warrior is a lot of fun, I'm glad you're liking it so far DC.
Still, all that HP won't do you much if you don't have good back up. My warrior has nearly 9k hp and I'll go down fast if my heals aren't spot on in certain fights lol!

I just noticed that you're on Goblin server.
If you have any questions or need help, hit me up ingame.
My character is Bisera Cecilina. I'm usually online after 9pm EST.
05-25-2014, 03:00 PM
moudoka

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Originally Posted by Sapphic

Actually the base defence of WAR and PLD is exactly the same. Only difference is block. If a PLD fails to block they take the same damage as a WAR. Wearing the same gear of course.

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I don't have a PLD at my level, and figured the shield gave them a DEF boost, whereas I lack a shield. WAR has parry, but it's not as reliable as I'd like :/
05-26-2014, 04:09 AM
Garlyle

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Originally Posted by moudoka

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I don't have a PLD at my level, and figured the shield gave them a DEF boost, whereas I lack a shield. WAR has parry, but it's not as reliable as I'd like :/

It's still mostly accurate. Paladin's Shield Oath from 40 onwards reduces damage by a flat percentage, so functionally, they're the 'mitigation' tanks compared to Warrior's massive HP pool.