More people want to learn yet, it's locked. People in PARTY FINDER kicks/ignores/denies unexperienced players.
[Suggestion] Remove LEVI/MOG EX mode's 8P requirement
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05-14-2014, 01:48 PMkeroo[Suggestion] Remove LEVI/MOG EX mode's 8P requirement
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05-14-2014, 02:55 PMArg3tlam
What if you made your own party finder group that is a learning party?
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05-14-2014, 03:08 PMkerooThat's slow and people need to learn from experienced players. Even if you've read/watched guides, you still need someone in the field who KNOWS it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arg3tlam
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05-14-2014, 03:28 PMjuniglee
So you don't want to make a learning party, because it's 7 other experienced players or bust?
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05-14-2014, 03:38 PMNabianThen get someone from your FC to carry you through the fight. Since it seems that is what you are looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by keroo
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05-14-2014, 04:56 PMsheepysheepy
would be nice, but its a really boring fight anyway and the tidal weaps arn't too amazing, so not a big deal, it'll probably be opened up in 2.3
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05-15-2014, 06:00 AMKatchiiNo you don't.....reading and watching guides gives you guidance which you can then apply once you're in the fight. If you can't learn from your own mistakes, which are more of an "OOOOOH THAT'S what they were talking about in the guide," moment then you won't be doing anyone including yourself any favors by having someone carry you through it.Quote:
That's slow and people need to learn from experienced players. Even if you've read/watched guides, you still need someone in the field who KNOWS it.
Make your own learning party, experienced players may join as well just because they want to help or because you may be the only person in PF making a group for that content. -
05-15-2014, 06:44 AMChiramu
lol at the replies. I bet they all have static raiding groups which is why they don't know the pain of grouping with people in a "learning party" more like a "lol I died and we wiped party". So freaking painful. I am for learning but if people aren't learning or trying to learn there is no point to doing it.
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05-15-2014, 09:04 AMjunigleeRaid statics aren't so much of a thing. Not on our server. I have a static that's only up to T8, but you can find Party Finder groups for T9 as well. Pug quality is generally quite high on our server.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiramu
My static only groups together for Coil, not so much for any other content. For all other content, I usually grab a few mates, and just set up a PF. Two members of my raid static has like every Ribbon from Moogle EX, and a good collection of weapons from Levi EX. They did NOT do it with our full static. -
05-15-2014, 10:46 AMBombast
New content is not available in DF because doing so is a nightmare. Levi without a paladin, or very good coordination (Something DF is not known for) is going to be impossible, and king Mog is too easily ruined by one person who refuses to learn the fight mechanics or listen to his team mates.
When ilvl goes up, and echo is added to compensate for poor party construction/cooperation, then you can DF it. Until then, keep looking for a good PF group. Or make your own. -
05-15-2014, 01:32 PMHiroradiusSee I read this as, I want someone to carry me through it.Quote:
Originally Posted by keroo
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05-15-2014, 07:29 PMRaestlozMore like, "dude, that's not where you should stand on 2nd phase of Twintania. Yeah I know where you were, because I was there".Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiroradius
See, if watching/reading guides is enough, why do we have the school system again? Ah, right, we need someone who actually knows stuff to be there so they can actually teach -
05-15-2014, 11:55 PMNabianYes what works for some doesn't work for others...for those who are less intelligent it can be difficult to learn on your own. But please try to remember that some people actually know how to use that big lump between their ears.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raestloz
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05-16-2014, 12:07 AMNitrosI'm so sorry that you believe that's slow, but I don't care and I most certainly don't feel like carrying you through content for which you are unprepared.Quote:
Originally Posted by keroo
So make practice groups and get to kill the boss like everybody else did, starting from scratch. -
05-16-2014, 01:40 AMCessna
Now Here's a question. Everybody on the NA servers knows experience players aren't going to join the duty finder and a expect a win on something like an ex primal. What makes you think duty finder is going to help you get anywhere more than a learning party you formed on party finder? Hell a learning party from stratch will get you better results because the people you get will be generally committed to improving on their mistakes and learning while as the duty finder is playing Russian roulette with the type of player you get. And on the more complex fights like twintania you can specify the type of learning party you form such as semi learning party have experience up to X phase or so. Can't do that with duty finder.
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05-16-2014, 02:15 AMKageNekoHmmm.... did these skilled players who KNOW the fight travel back in time to teach their friends how to do the fight when it first came out? I can;t think of any other way that people beat Levi/Moogle EX without having those experienced players in their pt. I mean, you think they LEARNED the fight without video guides and experienced players? That's crazy talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by keroo
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05-16-2014, 06:17 AMKitanaiKonekoDidn't you know? The first players to down a fight make a kill video, then they watch it to see how they did it so they can beat the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by KageNeko