Explain how food works in this game like I'm a retarded 5yr. old! Because, I can't seem to grasp the concept of % vs MAX and caps..... I'm a bard who just wan't more DMG in Speed runs, so whats the best food for BF runs? Already use the best Coil food just need a suggestion about how the food works entirely and the best depending on dungeon/Primal ect...ect... Or is everything just linear?
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05-12-2014, 08:57 PMRogueSpecterFood...........
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05-12-2014, 09:01 PMRogueSpecter
Like would Deviled Eggs be good for the Crit, or would something lower in Max and Higher in % be better for my 86 Ilvl for the crit... Currently have 440 crit... When I use D.E. I go to 457, but is this the cap? Tried others, and got the same result with may'be higher VIT, or higher ACC...? What's the difference and why does SE make this so hard to understand -_-
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05-12-2014, 09:10 PMRyihito
Food only provides a very minimum boost. it's only useful for the 3% EXP boost.
Let's say you have 100 Vit. If you got food that said "Vit +10% (Max 5)", then your Vit after will be 105, not 110, cos 5 is the max you can get from it.
Don't rely on food for stats, but if you really want to get food that increases both Crit and Determination. -
05-12-2014, 09:52 PMUmoWhat!? I think you're referring to low level food/character since this is posted on New Player Help, but as you can see OP is Bard 50 and asking about food and speed runs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
On topic, I feel it's that linear, but take this with a grain a salt since I'm not fond of theorycrafting. I guess you should use Black Truffle Risotto HQ. Anyways, you should get more accurate information posting on DPS roles forum. -
05-12-2014, 10:24 PMRyihitoWhat on Earth are you talking about? I gave him one of the main uses of food as well as advice. His level is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Umo
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05-12-2014, 10:43 PMIhmThe main use of food is min/maxing your damage in raids... not exp boost...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
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05-12-2014, 10:45 PMRyihitoYeah that small boost is a total game changer, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ihm
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05-12-2014, 11:02 PMFailiaAn example; the later coil raids are recommended to have a certain amount of accuracy so they you can actually hit the bosses. Let's say that the recommended is 490 accuracy and you have 477. While you will likely hit on most (or all) of your attacks, there is a chance that you actually CAN miss which would lower your DPS considerably. Now you eat food that boosts your accuracy by 13 to get the recommended 490 so you will not miss...that seems to be a game changer to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
Anything to maximize your potention doesn't seem like a waste to me. if you wanted food for just XP, there's lots of other food that offers just XP and no stat bonuses. -
05-12-2014, 11:06 PMsheepysheepywell he did say for min/maxingQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
the whole point of minmaxing is to be the best you can, even if its going from 98% efficiency to 99%, its a difference that some people enjoy -
05-12-2014, 11:08 PMKingOfAbyss
[Threat] You lost me at speed run..
I think the other post over mine explains it clearly. [/Threat Closed] -
05-12-2014, 11:20 PMRyihitoYeah I know how it works. I wouldn't be giving advice if I didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Failia
If you NEED food to reach a minimum limit then you are undergeared anyway. -
05-12-2014, 11:35 PMMyrhn
If your gear is build around Det or Crit and just missing a bit of Acc to have the recomended you are not really undergear.
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05-13-2014, 12:29 AMIhmHow does needing food mean you're undergeared? You must have started coil in 2.2 not 2.0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
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05-13-2014, 12:39 AMUrthdigger
Easy way to figure out food: take your stat (after gear bonuses), multiply it by the percentage (which is the number divided by 100, so 5% is 0.05), and if the resulting number is higher than the cap, set it to the cap. That's how much you'll get from food.
The market boards are a good place to do research. The food on there is organized first by category (which stat it raises), then by level (lower level food has a higher % but lower cap, which means you should use low level stuff at low level, and vice-versa). Find the category you want, and find which one gives the most in the stat (Usually the last one you hit the cap on, or the one just after) -
05-13-2014, 01:39 AMNutz
Similar to what Urth said, you can find out how much of a particular stat you need to get the full benefits of the food by dividing the max by the % (ie. 15(max)/.05(5% boost) = 300 of whatever stat to get maximum benefit). I rarely see people use food for speedruns, however, because the gains are usually marginal. The most dramatic difference a secondary stat can provide is capping accuracy, which should never be an issue in dungeons anyway. If you want some kind of boost, crit/ det food (probably more crit based for BRD) would be best, but I'd really only indulge in this if you are either making your own food or find something cheap (that is, not the same food you use for Coil), or if you just have no problem spending a decent sum of gil for running dungeons.
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05-13-2014, 02:06 AMLemon8orHow's it like running turn 1 with item level 100 gears to get item level 90?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
OP, Urth explains it pretty well. It's not hard to understand as you thought it to be. -
05-13-2014, 02:09 AMVallisRaineOn Brd Cric hit is where its at any of the egg dishes will do yes it does help geared or under geared. shouldn't matter you should use food anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogueSpecter
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05-13-2014, 02:11 AMVallisRainewhats wierd about this is for example the Tank T1 chest has more acc then the ilvl100 @.@; i dont know why SE would do something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemon8or
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05-13-2014, 02:16 AMLemon8orYou shouldn't look at accuracy as a judgement stats for tank gears. It's secondary stats. I100 has more strength, more vitality and more defenses than i90 and that's what you should be looking at. Higher item level doesn't mean higher secondary stats since those stats might not be at cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by VallisRaine
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05-13-2014, 04:00 AMRex...Any little boost can go a long way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
You remind me of this White Mage I had in Brayflox Hard mode...Who was in AF and all Lv30 intelligence accessories and belt. And then told me 20+ extra mind really doesn't make much of a difference. Meanwhile I was running out of MP as a bard keeping the WHM's MP up because their cures did absolutely nothing and we were unable to do any kind of "Speed run" tactics because he could hardly keep up with the tank having 2 mobs. -
05-13-2014, 10:48 AMRyihitoThat's nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex
And that WHM is an idiot, how could you compare me to him when all I've implied is that getting better gear is better than relying on food? Have some reading comprehension, man.
Oh and before you assume I'm against using Food, I use Food all the time for those "little boosts", all I'm saying it's >NOT NEEDED<. That small boost is nice, but there's not much of a difference.