Today, at LV 50, I took the leisure to look up how exactly food in FFXIV works for the first time. And I was shocked. Luckily, just as crafting will get an overhaul in one of the upcoming updates, so will, hopefully, food.
To clarify: Right now, food effects are less an attribute of the food itself, but an intricate formula taking into consideration level, physical and elemental stats, and finally the food's "base effect" itself (see here: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=1zK9e_wsHTMPMhQGYXA5qDkCEEXsb749VTTcMvPSEy9N6pMVT5mx3zTIIFS43&hl=en&authkey=CNDhlbAB).
Which basically means that, to get some decent effect out of your food, you have to micromanage your physical point distribution every time you eat a salad. Or, the other way round, change your diet whenever a piece of equipment gives you "lightning +5".
Luckily, physical levels will finally, finally be a thing of the past with 1.19 (?). Yet another convoluted relic of the past ripe for the garbage pile!! :cool:
Convoluted Cooking Conundrum
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07-17-2011, 06:32 PMRinsuiConvoluted Cooking Conundrum
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07-17-2011, 06:36 PMGriss
Yea food right now is a convoluted ball of mess that's slated to get streamlined and made so you don't have to have a masters degree in theoretical mathematics to understand whats going on. I think its going to happen around or after they get the stat algorithms straightened out.
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07-17-2011, 06:56 PMReika
Its stupid that it takes having the right stats to get 'the full benefit' of food anyways. Food should just give its max benefit, increased by quality, regardless of your attributes.
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07-17-2011, 07:06 PMgiftforce
Food system was the worst thing they designed. Still to this day no one really knows if it has an effect beyond the foods that visibly increase certain stats. Also, the fact that you had to go out of your way to optimise your diet was such a strain on your point alottment and patience.
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07-17-2011, 07:13 PMCommat
If you guys don't want to bother getting a masters degree in theoretical mathematics why don't you go back to WoW?
I swear, everyone is so lazy nowadays. -
07-17-2011, 07:18 PMgiftforceWell I already got my doctorate in network theory just to get the patch downloading, so I'm kind of spent on tertiary fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Commat
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07-17-2011, 07:25 PMViridianaFunny, I did more math playing WoW than I do playing XIV. . .Quote:
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07-17-2011, 07:26 PMCommatI read up to doctorate and thought you were going to give me a routine internet speech about how your a Harvard grad body builder movie star.Quote:
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I read the rest and L O L.
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07-17-2011, 07:39 PMCommatXI player?Quote:
Originally Posted by Viridiana
I'll assume so since you couldn't figure out the difference between difficulty and quantity.
Anyways, j/k and I'll assume you were too since you said "funny"
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07-17-2011, 08:16 PMViridianaNope, never played XI. Just haven't seen more than the beginnings of breaking out the stats and such for XIV (since stats do almost nothing atm) versus WoW where pretty much everything is broken out.Quote:
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Hell, I did more math playing FFT than I have so far in XIV. . . -
07-17-2011, 09:50 PMAdol
What's even more annoying about this is that an entire crafting class ended up being ruled as completely pointless since no one would buy food because the damn stuff does virtually next to nothing.
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07-17-2011, 09:57 PMVictorHahaha, this made me chuckle. Food in this game is ridiculousQuote:
Originally Posted by Commat
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07-17-2011, 10:35 PMDoubleEchoOh God, you must have used Calculator too.Quote:
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IMO, if you can play them right, the most dangerous party is a party full of Calculators. Especially if you play War of the Lions and go head to head with someone. -
07-18-2011, 12:48 AMEstellios
I'm fairly certain they have said they are going to make food easier to understand by having more information be shown on food descriptions. With the changes to stats (lowering how much points you have overall and at the same time making points more potent) I'd imagine that you should be within range to get a strong bonus from at least one piece of food and having the effects become apparent.
Personally I think I like how food works currently but just requires those changes. It keeps more food (and thus more low and mid-level crafters) more relevant since more serious players will be searching for the best food for their level, but anyone is able to grab what they can find in a hurry and still have it be useful. FF11's food stats are static and there are only like 6 food items anyone ever uses for various reasons and I've always thought it was kinda lame.
Edit: Also FYI, food only depends upon your base stats in the Allocation screen, so you don't have to worry about your stats changing with gear messing up your bonus.