My feelings about Titan Ex!

Hi everyone,

I'm writing this post because i'm concerned about the Titan Extreme Fight. The this fight is not difficult in itself but it has IMHO absolutly no room for errors. I Did everything in this game except Levi X, Mog X, Ifrit X (Locked out by the titan X fight) and SCoB. But the Titan X fight is the only one that has no room for errors. I mean absolutlyl none. The echo helps not to die but does nothing for landslides. I remember the Titan HM days where no one was able to go passed it and not long ago in a roulette. I did a 3 man Titan HM to carry 5. Will Titan Ex ever be easy to beat one day??

I've been doing Titan for about 2 months with 4-5 attemps a week without success and with a lot of modesty. I'm absolutly not the "Weakest link" in my runs. So let me be clear, the difficulty is absolutly fine. What makes it hard is that all the players that cleared it now are on T6+ and Levi farming, there is not so much good players still doing it (I guess because when you do it once, you never wanna go back to him again). This leads to Titan X with 7/8 competent people and maybe 1-2 "weakest link".

This is exactly my problem. Even if I put "iLvl 90, Know fight, Bring you A-game" in PF, i'm still always getting someone who is the "weakest link" and waste the run for everybody.

I know there is not so much to do with this and i'm just telling how I feel. I'm a 15h/week type of player. I don't want the fight to be adjusted or anything like that. In fact I like very much this fight. Always keeping you on your toes. I just wanna get past it. The fact that we require a "PERFECT" party to clear it is just getting on my nerve.

I Know i'm not the only one in this situation and to those who were in this situation, how did you manage to get passed it and clear this?? Do I have to wait and wait and one day i'll pick a true clear group? Or should I try to build a super Titan X Task Force with the best players on the server, or what?

Thx for reading and i will not give up! :)

I beat mine joining a PF group. At first we wiped lots, mostly due to landslide and WotLs, but we beat him in the end. Took me more than an hour and with the same group ^^

It really isnt as hard as players make it!!!!!
theres 2 ways to do it, the it'll be ok just run here & DPS nuts the adds.

Or the line everything up, move where you need to, dont attack adds until there both positioned & OT has good aggro on them way since they go down fast & also dont stop stacking until After that set of plumes goes off. Which you will 1 Shot it everytime! even with a dps or 2 down if you have good gear (crit gear usually is better)

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Originally Posted by NoRyoKu

But the Titan X fight is the only one that has no room for errors. I mean absolutlyl none.

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There is enough room for errors. Ok, less than Titan HM (like it should be), but you can survive even with a couple fails. If you don't see them, is just a matter of practice :3

Titan EX has the same issue than Titan HM: You fight against Titan and his 7 adds (aka party members), you can't win if more than X member fail. But honestly, hooooooooonestly, the "hardest" part from this battle is titan-egi phase... the rest is exactly the same than Titan HM and it should be EASILY avoidable

This battle is a bit unforgiving, i admit it... but talk me again about "little room for error" once you reach T7..... that damn Melusine... xD

This thread speaks my current situation verbatim. I'm locked out of all the best stuff because there's always that one person or two) that just can't get it. It's really killing my progression to the point where I'm just about willing to self myself into indentured servitude to buy a clear so I can move on with the game.

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Originally Posted by XzaviyrVL

I'm locked out of all the best stuff

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I feel the same, a friend of mine that have done it all says that Ifrit X and Levi X are still easier than Titan X. I want to be able to tackle those fight and the fact that this is not my fault is getting to me! I can forgive some error but doing the forgivin for so long, it's difficult :S.

Titan EX is evil to those who have high latency (Like me) and FPS problem :(

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Originally Posted by XzaviyrVL

....... I'm just about willing to sell myself into indentured servitude to buy a clear so I can move on with the game.

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*Sees thread*
*look at server*

Damnit... so close.. I always wanted a miqo'te house pet. :(

Anyway you probably need a good FC somewhere. Or get a TitanEX win buy.

Or, worse come to worse... you need a server transfer.

PF is most likely the only chance you have, if you dont really have FC or LS support.

I can clearly see one big issue here. You are not putting any effort what so ever to find more like minded people, spend hours if you all need to to tackle the same goal. If you constantly have to leave groups because of 1 or 2 bad apples and just start from scratch you are potentially killing any progress you could have had.
The new turns require alot of coordination in between the raid group. getting new people all the time reduces the success rate of even beating them. If you are having this huge of an issue do a few smart things,
1: go to your servers forums and announce what you are looking for, seek out even people who are willing to learn the fight and spend an hour or 2 each day attempting.
2: create a party finder group and seek out people who really need to down titan ex, if you end up with a bad apple, talk with the rest on staying and insist to find other players who can help create a good team that can eventually down titan ex. Avoid groups that are willing to leave due to a wipe or 2. some people need to warm up while others are learning the more you stick together with the same people the better your chances of winning.

4-5 attempts a week isn't much...

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Originally Posted by NoRyoKu

Even if I put "iLvl 90, Know fight, Bring you A-game" in PF, i'm still always getting someone who is the "weakest link" and waste the run for everybody.

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Don't put iLv90 Requirement to the Fight, if you expect a win.

This only says people have the gear. Set the iLevel lower, but watch your group, detect the person who keeps 'messing up' and tell him to try another time.
(Dont tell them in a rude way, but if you are building a clear group, tell them you expect the knowledge of the fight).

After my first clear as mnk I startet doing Titan Extreme with my sch but far less iLv and since then i always got my weekly clear as sch (First clear als scholar was with iLv72, i also helped out but i refuse if people set insane iLv requirements).

Hi. I'm a noob, and similar to you. I have the same problem...

Only that... In my case I just decided to not get annoyed and ignore Titan EX for now, coward option. In my server everyone is super new so not many people organizing party finders for it... IT... HAS... TO... Be in DF...

So far even took me one night and the next day for Garuda EX...

Right now I'm rather leveling up any other classes and gearing them all, it's like a funny hobby... =3

Maybe someday... I'll do it this way. "Okay, now a run try with the WAR... Failed... Next one with the DRG... Failed... Next one with the MNK... Okay, Next one with the WHM..." and so on.

Yeah sad part is, I'm in one of the largest most successful FC's on my server. That's also the problem... they're so successful that they've forgotten all about titan and have moved on to new coil and Levi Ex farm. I'm probably going to leave soon and try another FC; and if that doesn't work I've had my eyes on Gilgamesh for a while lol(wanna join an RP community).

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

4-5 attempts a week isn't much...

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As I said, I have around 15h/week and I want to do book grind, roulette, help FC etc... so this is the time I have

People are still doing EX primals? Why?

If you wanna beat Titan ex, make a group and kick anyone who dies before the heart phase.
Nobody should be dying before the heart phase and if they are, you will not clear it. This should clear out all the bads and let you finally clear this fight.

Took me 15 tries before I cleared it with my FC. I never cleared it with a pug.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

People are still doing EX primals? Why?

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Snobbish question. Some do them for the chance at the various mounts. Some want to get through Garuda, Titan, and Ifrit to farm Leviathan for his weapon as not everyone is capable of clearing the second Coil or feel like grinding out animus weapons. Others simply haven't made it to the primal battles.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

People are still doing EX primals? Why?

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Not everyone has done them yet?

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

People are still doing EX primals? Why?

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Because some haven't beaten them yet?

I gave up, I can run to the other side of the arena and WoTL still hits me. I'll just wait for a nerf, or to the point my iLvl is so high it won't be a problem anymore.

If you want to clear Titan Ex and you are already far past the learning stage, then you need to get 7 other patient people that have cleared or at least know the entire fight to clear it with you. I cleared it months ago, but recently had a linkshell friend looking to clear for the first time and a bunch of us got together in a party and kept going until it was cleared. I helped other friends I've played with too, help get a friend of theirs through titan ex. The friend has practiced enough to clear the fight, just needs other patient people to stick it out, until everything goes as planned and it gets cleared.

Most of the time with party finders, you'll have several attempts, and then someone will leave and then the entire party disbands.

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Originally Posted by XzaviyrVL

Yeah sad part is, I'm in one of the largest most successful FC's on my server. That's also the problem... they're so successful that they've forgotten all about titan and have moved on to new coil and Levi Ex farm. I'm probably going to leave soon and try another FC; and if that doesn't work I've had my eyes on Gilgamesh for a while lol(wanna join an RP community).

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Hello there!

Im in the same position as you with Titan Extreme. You are welcome to join Heaven and Sea (HnS) on Goblin. We have 1 group that has cleared up 2 t8 and the rest of us are at the T5/Xprimal stage of the game. We probably have about 25 active members so no one really gets overlooked. Always helpful, always good to each other!

Titan Ex got a serious buff with 2.2. All the capable players now have no reason to ever go back. PF titan groups have been massive failures. Hell even Titan HM gets cleared in DF these days due to the roulette putting vets in it. They need to buff Rowena's Token to get people to actually run them. Maybe make the token worth 50-100 soldiery tomes that don't count against the cap.

I finally completed Titan EX last night. Once you actually learn the phases, it's tough but not so bad as long as you can remain focused.

The hardest part about Titan is finding 7 others who can do the fight properly.

I still do Titan ex. once in a while to test out this PF groups, if they make it past heart w/o dying to LS/WOTL I stay and help with the clear even if it takes 25% echo. it just mean more exp. is needed on bomb pattern/gaoler.
there is plenty of "freedom" with echo buff, if u manage to get to 2nd gaolers u can usually clear it with 2 dps/a tank down.

I have three clears now. Two with my FC on my Bard (first win plus an assist to help out another FC member). The third was with my Warrior last week. Now that I have both the Dual Hakken and the Hellish Claws, I don't know if I'll ever actively pursue this fight again. You can easily waste an hour or more in there with a group that can make it past Gaolers and still not get a clear. It's crazy how often people panic during the last phase.

If My FC needs help with assists, I'll probably do it. If not, I think I'm done with the extreme primals for now.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

Hello there!

Im in the same position as you with Titan Extreme. You are welcome to join Heaven and Sea (HnS) on Goblin. We have 1 group that has cleared up 2 t8 and the rest of us are at the T5/Xprimal stage of the game. We probably have about 25 active members so no one really gets overlooked. Always helpful, always good to each other!

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You there, your thought process, I like it! I'll look you guys up in game next time I log.

I've been trying to clear Titan EX for weeks now.

It's a really frustrating fight because, like others have said, you're really competing against the 7 people in your party as much as Titan himself.


The worst is when you have a group of 8 people and you get past heart, past the adds, and someone makes a single stupid mistake like eating one of the double WotL's... and then others in the party rage quit because they were looking for a one-shot. It's happened more than a few times.


I've tried to make a linkshell where I get people together to beat the content, but, what happens is... someone beats it via PF or FC and then when I ask if they want to attempt it again, they either say no thanks... or, I log on and they've abandoned the LS. I just shut it down beause it was becoming so frustrating.

As far as my FC? They are great, but, we're small. We have 30 people, 8 of which are on extreme primals and T5. I'm not going to bail on them, because they are cool people and I enjoy playing with them.


This isn't a whining post, it's just stating facts/experiences with this content.

I understand that's the way the game is and everything is working as intended. I'm not asking for a nerf, just sharing my own experiences and letting people who are at the same point I'm at know that they aren't alone. :)

Too be honest, getting past Titan EX isn't really a need of mine. There's still plenty of other things to do in the game... and in some ways it's nice to have content waiting there for me whenever I feel like putting up with the headache of trying to assemble a group of equally skilled players to tackle it.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

Because some haven't beaten them yet?

I gave up, I can run to the other side of the arena and WoTL still hits me. I'll just wait for a nerf, or to the point my iLvl is so high it won't be a problem anymore.

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Huh interesting reality check. I didn't realize people weren't done with that content yet. Even with the echo buff people are still having problems? Do you guys have free companies? I don't PF/DF anything, we just pick a night and our FC runs whatever is needed.

The item level of characters will inevitably nerf titan ex, even if they don't continue to increase echo which they probably will.

I personally love that there are some challenging fights in this game, it promotes making a team and progressing together.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

Huh interesting reality check. I didn't realize people weren't done with that content yet. Even with the echo buff people are still having problems? Do you guys have free companies? I don't PF/DF anything, we just pick a night and our FC runs whatever is needed.

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Staying secluded to your FC has made you completely out of touch with a vast amount of players in this game then. The echo doesnt do anything to help in this fight and in some cases actually makes it harder because the phase shifts at bad times with enhanced dps. I would love to see SEs numbers on how many have actually beaten Titan EX. Willing to bet it is less than 30% of the playerbase. Im still banging my head against it when I have time after capping Sol for the week. Some weeks I have time and others I dont.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

Huh interesting reality check. I didn't realize people weren't done with that content yet. Even with the echo buff people are still having problems? Do you guys have free companies? I don't PF/DF anything, we just pick a night and our FC runs whatever is needed.

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My FC has a raid team that is doing Coil 2, but the rest is either very new (not even 50) or entered endgame recently. There aren't enough people in the middle like me. The raid team took me to Garuda after I had learned the fight, but training for Titan is impossible through PF/DF. There is always someone who quits after a couple of tries and the rest follows quickly.

If it weren't necessary to progress through the other Primals I wouldn't even care much, but the way it's structured, I'm gonna be left behind on all future fights if I don't clear it...

It all depends on latency
if you have <100ms ping, Titan EX is a joke

if your latency >250ms, You will need to remember the boss skill rotation, and move before Landslides & WotL come out.
and ARR has a lot of bosses that use AOEs, this is so frustrating

Because of the serious latency issue,I did a server transfer. & I miss my FC mates
this is one of the reason why I don't like XIV ARR

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Originally Posted by Moqi

... but the way it's structured, I'm gonna be left behind on all future fights if I don't clear it...

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This is how I feel too... Even if they neft it to 50% echo, they cannot do a thing about falling. This is the only fight that there is a mechanics to put you out of combat with no possibility of rez

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Originally Posted by NoRyoKu

This is how I feel too... Even if they neft it to 50% echo, they cannot do a thing about falling. This is the only fight that there is a mechanics to put you out of combat with no possibility of rez

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Nope, Leviathan EX does the same thing with the boat. Other than that, Titan HM was the first one that puts you out of combat if you don't dodge landslide.