Must See! Final Fantasy XIV in Symphonic Oddesey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7nryAJe9XQ
Best rendition I've ever heard apart from Nobuo Oematsu himself.

definitely makes the song much more magical.\ watching it

I just like the fact that we have someone like Nobuo Oematsu composing good music for the game, and orchestras performing that music in places around the world. Makes me feel somewhat dignified playing the game. Does WoW or any other MMO have their original music still performed by orchestras?

You know, I like Uematsu for his past works in FF games, but I honestly don't enjoy most the XIV soundtrack all that much. I mean don't get me wrong, he did an excellent job as usual and there are some outstanding tracks, but there is just too much metal in most of them and they just don't hold a candle to what Naoshi Mizuta did for FFXI.

I have every soundtrack available for FFXI, and I can listen to every track endlessly and never get bored with them. With XIV though, I wanna turn most of them off after about an hr. {well San'dOria does get grating afterawhile, but the ver for the past is excellent!}

I wish we had the option of replacing the in game music with these orchestral versions. I might leave the music on...

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Originally Posted by Khalus

You know, I like Uematsu for his past works in FF games, but I honestly don't enjoy most the XIV soundtrack all that much. I mean don't get me wrong, he did an excellent job as usual and there are some outstanding tracks, but there is just too much metal in most of them and they just don't hold a candle to what Naoshi Mizuta did for FFXI.

I have every soundtrack available for FFXI, and I can listen to every track endlessly and never get bored with them. With XIV though, I wanna turn most of them off after about an hr. {well San'dOria does get grating afterawhile, but the ver for the past is excellent!}

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I liked FFXI too, but I disagree that FFXIV is worse. I personally like the FFXIV soundtrack more.

Sounds fantastic!

I also really enjoy the FFXIV soundtrack, I always leave music on, it's part of the experience for me.

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Originally Posted by Khalus

You know, I like Uematsu for his past works in FF games, but I honestly don't enjoy most the XIV soundtrack all that much. I mean don't get me wrong, he did an excellent job as usual and there are some outstanding tracks, but there is just too much metal in most of them and they just don't hold a candle to what Naoshi Mizuta did for FFXI.

I have every soundtrack available for FFXI, and I can listen to every track endlessly and never get bored with them. With XIV though, I wanna turn most of them off after about an hr. {well San'dOria does get grating afterawhile, but the ver for the past is excellent!}

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I totally agree. Naoshi Mizuta needs to do some tracks for XIV.
Cause all of his are amazing beyond belief.
Sanctuary of Zi'Tah? yes please.

Please SE let us make all of our songs orchestral if we so choose :<

Nobuo also had a hand in a good number of songs for XI. Heavens tower was one of his songs, man I love that song.

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Originally Posted by VeranRamaden

I totally agree. Naoshi Mizuta needs to do some tracks for XIV.
Cause all of his are amazing beyond belief.
Sanctuary of Zi'Tah? yes please.

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I think Sanctuary of Zi'tah was pretty amateur, even though it was nice music.

Nobuo's music is much more complex and interesting. I'm sure Nobuo could mass-produce music like Sanctuary of Zi'tah if he wanted to, I'm sure many other musicians could too.

I think one of the larger issues facing xiv is not a mechanics issue. Its the lack of a single track that when you hear it you think This is xiv, this song encapsulates every thing there is to know and feel about the game. There are a lot of really nice tracks hidden away in the dats that's are not being put to use currently, But they all borrow something from previous games and there musical compositions. I cant wait for the day when i hear a song and i think F*ck yea ffxiv!

i have been a fan of Nobuo Uematsu for years, but i wonder where the massively engaging songs that you fell in love with went. i just don't have the same connection to the songs as i had back then. it may be age that it takes more to impress now, it could be the song quality has fallen, or it could even be that the games just aren't as deep in story as they were. i don't know which it is, but if it's not me i really hope se figures out how to have an emotional response again from their players.

final fantasy VII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMbxUjmKbE

final fantasy VIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkcsvZv_Z4

final fantasy IX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFytzNhPsoM

final fantasy X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZ5jcsRpc

i only did a quick search on only VII through X. these take me back years and remind me of the feelings i had when i played what i considered a final fantasy game. i know there are many many other favorites that we would all post, but i caught myself listening to song after song and forgot to save links and i know there's even more i just missed.

sa far there's not that one song that hops out and says "hello i am ffxiv and you will remember me". the songs are good, but i just don't have that emotional response to them.

Nobuo Uematsu crafts some very wonderful music. I often turn the volume up and effect volume down when playing XIV. It's a shame you don't to hear the really good stuff in XIV more often. I think he was robbed a little bit when creating the soundtrack for this game, even he himself had sometimes 1 piece of art to create entire pieces. I think he did quite well with it.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i have been a fan of Nobuo Uematsu for years, but i wonder where the massively engaging songs that you fell in love with went. i just don't have the same connection to the songs as i had back then. it may be age that it takes more to impress now, it could be the song quality has fallen, or it could even be that the games just aren't as deep in story as they were. i don't know which it is, but if it's not me i really hope se figures out how to have an emotional response again from their players.

final fantasy VII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn71hIsm0U8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CMbxUjmKbE

final fantasy VIII
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CkcsvZv_Z4

final fantasy IX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFytzNhPsoM

final fantasy X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLnZ5jcsRpc

i only did a quick search on only VII through X. these take me back years and remind me of the feelings i had when i played what i considered a final fantasy game. i know there are many many other favorites that we would all post, but i caught myself listening to song after song and forgot to save links and i know there's even more i just missed.

sa far there's not that one song that hops out and says "hello i am ffxiv and you will remember me". the songs are good, but i just don't have that emotional response to them.

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It is probably more the association you attach to the music rather than the music itself that makes you think it's so good. I really liked FFVIII's soundtrack. With the exception of a few tracks on FFX, and FFVII, FFXIV is definitely one of the best.

I think FFVIII and FFXIV are Nobuo's best, purely from a music perspective.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

It is probably more the association you attach to the music rather than the music itself that makes you think it's so good. I really liked FFVIII's soundtrack. With the exception of a few tracks on FFX, and FFVII, FFXIV is definitely one of the best.

I think FFVIII and FFXIV are Nobuo's best, purely from a music perspective.

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i agree that could be it. honestly, what classifies good music to go with a game? to me it is not the music on its own. it's the music combined with the game that makes the music anytime you hear it afterwards it brings you back and you say ohhhh the memories. i've heard some great songs in this game so far, but have yet to have that defining moment in game with the music combination that truly hits me on an emotional level.

i'm not a music professional nor do i claim to know the complexity of the songs, but very few of us are. the ones of us that are not music professionals just have a taste for what we like. to me for a song to hit me emotionally is what i like to remember in games not what key it was played in or how many horns blew at the same time.

my wife and i went to a symphony a few months back and there was one song i looked over and she was in tears. neither of us could have told you the name of it, but the emotional connection was amazing. that's the type of music that i want in a game. maybe not the tears, but one that will hit me emotionally.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

i agree that could be it. honestly, what classifies good music to go with a game? to me it is not the music on its own. it's the music combined with the game that makes the music anytime you hear it afterwards it brings you back and you say ohhhh the memories. i've heard some great songs in this game so far, but have yet to have that defining moment in game with the music combination that truly hits me on an emotional level.

i'm not a music professional nor do i claim to know the complexity of the songs, but very few of us are. the ones of us that are not music professionals just have a taste for what we like. to me for a song to hit me emotionally is what i like to remember in games not what key it was played in or how many horns blew at the same time.

my wife and i went to a symphony a few months back and there was one song i looked over and she was in tears. neither of us could have told you the name of it, but the emotional connection was amazing. that's the type of music that i want in a game. maybe not the tears, but one that will hit me emotionally.

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True, the most brilliant songs aren't always the most evocative. If you listen to the soundtrack for FFXIV as much as me though, there are so many songs which I consider definingly-FFXIV. It's not Nobuo's fault there are few places where these songs are actually played.

As for the background music that plays in the zones, well let's just say I grew weary of every single song in FFXI too.

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Originally Posted by giftforce

True, the most brilliant songs aren't always the most evocative. If you listen to the soundtrack for FFXIV as much as me though, there are so many songs which I consider definingly-FFXIV. It's not Nobuo's fault there are few places where these songs are actually played.

As for the background music that plays in the zones, well let's just say I grew weary of every single song in FFXI too.

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on no don't take me wrong at all. i don't blame him. i was just saying i haven't had that "it" moment where i can say xiv is here for the long haul. that's not just song, but song and game combination are needed for that. also, i will add for that to happen he needs more than a picture of an area and told to make a song around it. he actually needs to see the game and be able to tailor the songs for each area.

say in x when yuna sent off the spirits and walked across the water dancing if it was just a picture he may have had some up tempo dance music and the scene would have been completely different. that scene and the one with her and tidus in the water are my wifes favorite 2 scenes out of any game i have played. with as much as i have played for both to be in the same game is outstanding music/game combination to me even though the music may not be perfect.

til this day though if i hear the song i will go right to that scene and remember it clearly.

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Originally Posted by Griss

I cant wait for the day when i hear a song and i think F*ck yea ffxiv!

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This would be "On Windy Meadows" for me. As I heared it I was back in La Noscea at the beta time, where I was the first time outside the city, attacked a goat and the goat killed me ^^

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

say in x when yuna sent off the spirits and walked across the water dancing if it was just a picture he may have had some up tempo dance music and the scene would have been completely different. that scene and the one with her and tidus in the water are my wifes favorite 2 scenes out of any game i have played. with as much as i have played for both to be in the same game is outstanding music/game combination to me even though the music may not be perfect.

til this day though if i hear the song i will go right to that scene and remember it clearly.

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Do you mean this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4d_ED3wFEs

im going to see them in baltimore in july 30!! yay!

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Originally Posted by Khalus

You know, I like Uematsu for his past works in FF games, but I honestly don't enjoy most the XIV soundtrack all that much.

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I get where you're coming from but we haven't exactly heard the entire soundtrack of the game -- I'm also not referring to what exists in the data that was ripped during Alpha, as in FFXI I can safely say we didn't hear WoTG music in 2002.

I can also bet that most of the songs you listen to come from Zilart+ era, which are the most notable of that game.

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Originally Posted by Felis

This would be "On Windy Meadows" for me. As I heared it I was back in La Noscea at the beta time, where I was the first time outside the city, attacked a goat and the goat killed me ^^


Do you mean this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4d_ED3wFEs

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yes, this is all i am talking about. that song reminds me of that particular game and that particular point in time. that's what i feel has been missing. if you got into that game these 2 scenes are the type of things i miss in final fantasy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfnnyqWwwcM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmxA9rlnPjs

to me, it's not always about the music we hear all the time because that is expected to get boring over time, but the special songs are much more engaging in the cut scenes. that emotional attachment is what i miss.

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Originally Posted by Murugan

I just like the fact that we have someone like Nobuo Oematsu composing good music for the game, and orchestras performing that music in places around the world. Makes me feel somewhat dignified playing the game. Does WoW or any other MMO have their original music still performed by orchestras?

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WoW does, quite a bit. Lion's Pride Inn is among my favorite songs from any game, ever.

Likely, FFXIV being played has more to do with its status as a Final Fantasy game than it being an MMO. Still, good to hear it in full orchestral action.

I missed the concert when it came to Seattle a few years ago :-( really hoping they come back through here or Portland again.

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Originally Posted by Khalus

...there is just too much metal in most of them...

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^ This. Overall, I like the music, however the metal tracks and the market wards background just seem a bit out of place/character for the environment to me.

This is epic!

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Originally Posted by Jennestia

I can also bet that most of the songs you listen to come from Zilart+ era, which are the most notable of that game.

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Well Uematsu only composed and with the help of Mizuta the base soundtrack. After which he left SE, and Naoshi Mizuta then went on to compose all the tracks for the 4 expansions+, though I've read that he did bring in Uematsu for consultation on several tracks over the years.

I still plenty enjoy all the base music too, but I will have to give most the props to Mizuta, cause all the music from then on has been quite defining, and dare I say much better than some of Uematsu's compositions.

There's no such thing as "too much metal"

i absolutely love Uematsu's music.

i love 11's music too. i can connect the music to all the good times i had.

hoping 14 will do the same.

Nobuo's band playing 10's music with the great Mr. Goo :)

enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86aGDavDloM

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Originally Posted by yoshikwalla

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7nryAJe9XQ
Best rendition I've ever heard apart from Nobuo Oematsu himself.

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Wow, this sounds very similar to Ronfaure in the beginning. I wish these orchestral versions were in the game, of course I like the original versions too.

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Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog

Wow, this sounds very similar to Ronfaure in the beginning. I wish these orchestral versions were in the game, of course I like the original versions too.

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On Windy Meadows is very reminiscent of Ronfaure itself. It shows the similar amounts of layering of instruments, relatively same tempo and percussion, so I find it normal to associate the two pieces. I term On Windy Meadows the "Asian Ronfaure", since it has a basis on the 5-chord oriental style. :p

I would have the orchestral versions for events or cutscenes; having them normally in the game will be too dramatic and potentially remove immersion. There's a limit to how much music can improve; any more flairs, and it can ruin the mood. But yes, having them in-game for certain scenes or events would be wonderful. :D