Adjustment for Haukke Manor Hard / Roulette

Please SE, put an 'equip cap' for Haukke Manor Hard (I suggest 70+) or nerf the dungeon... I won many times as whm but it become impossibile with 1 dps 55-60 in the party - pls check the last boss and the 'timer' feature.

The new dungeons ('for expert') are not so 'selective'!

70+ for dungeon that drops i60 gear. Love it.

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Originally Posted by Aikasa

Please SE, put an 'equip cap' for Haukke Manor Hard (I suggest 70+) or nerf the dungeon... I won many times as whm but it become impossibile with 1 dps 55-60 in the party - pls check the last boss and the 'timer' feature.
The new dungeons ('for expert') are not so 'selective'!

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is not impossible, ive carried a ilv50-55ish dps thro it many times when my highest dps was about ilv80
they just need to know how to maximize dps

tank/healer can help too if they know the dps is going to struggle

just stop asking them to nerf everything plz

i55s don't often know how to "maximize dps" inb4 white knight anecdotes of how ilvl 2000s have 1 dps

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Originally Posted by Aikasa

Please SE, put an 'equip cap' for Haukke Manor Hard (I suggest 70+) or nerf the dungeon... I won many times as whm but it become impossibile with 1 dps 55-60 in the party - pls check the last boss and the 'timer' feature.

The new dungeons ('for expert') are not so 'selective'!

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obviously one bad experience with one dps means SE needs to up the ilvl or nerf the dungeon.

I've won that dungeon with THREE people all in mostly AF and some DL accessories. DPS and Tank. And I hardly helped with damage

You're just doing it wrong.

You're confusing "low iL" and "low understanding of one's job posibilities". All the dungeons are perfectly doable at lowest iL, given that everyone know their job's ins and outs. Or at least have a good understanding on what to do and when to do it.

i hit the timer on final boss almost every time i've done it, but i've never wiped, so long as the healer has his benediction/swiftcast/med2/regen etc. up inbetween the shrieks you can carry on for ages

Just need to kill the 2 adds in the right order on last boss. looking into the room, she always eats the one on the left first, then the right. Of course save LB for the last add.

Don't think, like another poster mentioned, that ILvl is the issue. It's the DPS not knowing how to DPS effectively which can happen with ilvl 70+ geared peeps.

What they need to do is stop nerfing everything, stop catering to the bad players and spreading this entitlement attitude that most of today's players have. Stop making things easier so bad players can play badly and progress regardless. You can do most of the older HM's w/o a tank and with 3 people these days. What I would love to see is them to start putting class restrictions on more gear. Drives me crazy when I do a random, or CT for retainer gear or just for laughs and there is tanks wearing int/mnd gear, healers in str/dex, melee in mnd/int etc. etc. etc just to pad their ilvls and cheat their way into a duty and perform and very sub par levels.

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Originally Posted by jagang

What they need to do is stop nerfing everything, stop catering to the bad players and spreading this entitlement attitude that most of today's players have. Stop making things easier so bad players can play badly and progress regardless. You can do most of the older HM's w/o a tank and with 3 people these days. What I would love to see is them to start putting class restrictions on more gear. Drives me crazy when I do a random, or CT for retainer gear or just for laughs and there is tanks wearing int/mnd gear, healers in str/dex, melee in mnd/int etc. etc. etc just to pad their ilvls and cheat their way into a duty and perform and very sub par levels.

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They are probably Spiritbinding gear.

Then again, you never know :P

no, if they were spiritbonding I would be more ok with it, they are using darklight and wolf pvp gear, that isn't for their class or has any useful stats whatsoever with it. if they were spiritbonding they usually have at least a decent amount of skill and produce in the group so they aren't drawing attention to themselves. try a ct, and 9/10 runs you will have at least 11 of the 24 who are grossly undergeared obviously cheating the ilvl to get in for "free loot" isn't free loot when you can't even clear the first boss, lol.

I don't know the actual statistic on it, but I'd venture to guess that approximately 60-70% of dps in this game far under perform for their given gear level.