FFXIV 1.0 nostalgia (something that 1.0 did right & 2.0 didn't)

Some 1.0 videos enjoy :)

Opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD45euKWO1U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMpfrCuvBfA


Garuda:
1.0 Garuda looks scary,attack sound effects are impressive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goKSqF9fldE
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psc4a68d58.jpg
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps538d3e93.jpg
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...psd03f2b20.jpg


2.0 Garuda look like a bird:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJFz5oFH2PM
Yoshi-P told us to "zoom out",but I really think he should limit the zoom distance.

http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps40dea8ed.jpg
http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1b675ff9.jpg


Some 1.0 game play videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XWjdKre5kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dvuraip7A0

The atmosphere,the attractive immersion,the relax & romance feelings. something special that 1.0 had.
it's sad that 2.0 did not successfully capture these feelings

I know 1.0 maps are copy & pasted, but I really enjoy the 1.0 atmosphere.
to me 2.0 feel......impetuous? superficiality? ....I don't know..

The only scary thing I saw in that 1.0 garuda clip was how frighteningly awkward the old combat system looked :(

Sadly the mechanics used in 1.23 vastly differ from 2.0.
1.23 was very very slow in comparison to 2.0, but a huge difference is the battle-effects.
In 2.0 we have A LOT of battle effects going off at once, you can barely see what's being attacked most of the time from the array of fireworks and explosions emitting from your enemy.


1.23 most certainly had more 'weight' to it and things seemed much larger, Ifrit, Garuda, Nael Van Darnus as a result of this. A great emphasis on realistic animations and timing helped. (Even if the combat was slow and unrealistic, at least the animaitons were) which made the weight of it all seem much more "terrifying" and thrilling in 1.23 because of the general camera position.


It's something I immediatley noticed in 2.0 once I got to Titan, where my camera was in the 1.23 position up until I fought Titan Hard Mode where I learnt to force myself to zoom the camera out, and it's been stuck there ever since.

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Originally Posted by Teeko

The only scary thing I saw in that 1.0 garuda clip was how frighteningly awkward the old combat system looked :(

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2.0 combat system looks fun in the first or two months.
but now,playing with the skill rotations over and over and over again just bored me.

1.23 combat system was more playable over the long-term

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Originally Posted by WeiShan

1.23 combat system was more playable over the long-term

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Because waiting for your PT to fill up was way more entertaining.

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Originally Posted by WeiShan

2.0 Garuda look like a bird

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... it's Garuda. It's supposed to look like a bird.

Also, bleh 1.0 combat... if I wanted slow and clunky combat I'd resub to FFXI.

Hipsters. Lol.

i liked when casters could move while casting.

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Originally Posted by WeiShan

2.0 combat system looks fun in the first or two months.
but now,playing with the skill rotations over and over and over again just bored me.

1.23 combat system was more playable over the long-term

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I'm not really speaking for the combat gameplay-wise because well...I didn't play 1.0 or 1.23. All I can base my opinions on are what I see, so :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goKS...utu.be&t=2m35s

He actually faces away from her for a fair bit and casts spells on himself. It drives me nuts with how stupid it looks :(

"Here you can beat me up from the back while I stand here and cast my spells. Naw I mean it, it's cool."

1.0 vs ARR battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=575nZk2jmno

ARR battle is smoother, but it lacks the "weight", 2.0 mobs are too weak.
and the attack sound is weaker than 1.0

Are you complaining that Garuda, primal of the birdmen, looks like a bird? Perhaps you are not familiar with what Garuda is based off of....I don't understand.

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Originally Posted by WeiShan

1.0 vs ARR battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=575nZk2jmno

ARR battle is smoother, but it lacks the "weight", 2.0 mobs are too weak.
and the attack sound is weaker than 1.0

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I'd like to point out how long it took to change class, equip a Job stone, and then hit a gear macro and wait for the "blinking" from equipping those items to finish.

AA was not in FFXIV 1.0 - it took several updates before it was implemented. Combat was very static and slow pre-ARR as the video shows.

Visually and fluidity wise - ARR wins when it comes to combat.

ARR mobs are "too weak" - level wise you're comparing lv45-48 ARR monsters to lv50+ monsters in 1.0 which is really just apples to oranges.

There were level 99 monsters I could solo very easily on WAR & MNK in 1.22~

So I think mob "difficulty" is purely a subjective point.

I wanna be that guy.

Isn't this like the second or third one of WeiShan's 1.0 v 2.0 threads? And I even think one of them was closed.

Don't care if it's right or wrong to be honest. Just pointing out I've seen a thread with similar subject matter from the same user.

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Originally Posted by Gaddes

... it's Garuda. It's supposed to look like a bird.

Also, bleh 1.0 combat... if I wanted slow and clunky combat I'd resub to FFXI.

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This last part is also how I felt. 1.23's battle system was slow, clunky and not that deep. Not to say that 2.x has a much better battle system, but it's better than it could ever have been in 1.x.

Now, sure, there were several combos and some interesting abilities (I hope to see them being reintroduced as the level cap goes up), but the long recast times on the stronger weaponskills meant that you were forced into a particular rotation of abilities, as opposed to the more priority based system we have in ARR. In 1.23, you started with your strongest (eg, Chaos Thrust with DRG, I think), and then you progressively went towards your weaker combos whilst waiting for the cooldowns (some of which were over 60s long) and then start again.

So deep, it was.

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

I wanna be that guy.

Isn't this like the second or third one of WeiShan's 1.0 v 2.0 threads? And I even think one of them was closed.

Don't care if it's right or wrong to be honest. Just pointing out I've seen a thread with similar subject matter from the same user.

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I expected they wouldn't actually be around any more, considering there are posts from December complaining about how this game isn't what it was before. Apparently, I was wrong. But they are leaving this week.

Man, look at that responsive UI and initiation of animations 1.0 had... said no one ever. Immersion? Or more comfortable with slow responsive tactics? If you fought that slowly in real life you wouldn't last very long.

Took me a while to notice that the FC in the Garuda video was my own. Lol

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

Immersion? Or more comfortable with slow responsive tactics? If you fought that slowly in real life you wouldn't last very long.

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This is an FF title though. And at least i feel that FFXI and FFXIV 1.x has more in common with the ATB system then FFXIV ARR has.

As for immersion... Do you like those warp speed airships between cities?

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Originally Posted by Teeko

I'm not really speaking for the combat gameplay-wise because well...I didn't play 1.0 or 1.23. All I can base my opinions on are what I see, so :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goKS...utu.be&t=2m35s

He actually faces away from her for a fair bit and casts spells on himself. It drives me nuts with how stupid it looks :(

"Here you can beat me up from the back while I stand here and cast my spells. Naw I mean it, it's cool."

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1.23 was not a perfect game, far from it. (slow ui,copy & pasted maps, unrealistic lighting)
I quote my first post:"The atmosphere,the attractive immersion,the relax & romance feelings. something special that 1.0 had."

1.23 was an unfinished AAA MMO. it had depth, had an attractive atmosphere.
2.0 is a refined....theme park candy land.

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Originally Posted by Dhex

I'd like to point out how long it took to change class, equip a Job stone, and then hit a gear macro and wait for the "blinking" from equipping those items to finish.

AA was not in FFXIV 1.0 - it took several updates before it was implemented. Combat was very static and slow pre-ARR as the video shows.

Visually and fluidity wise - ARR wins when it comes to combat.

ARR mobs are "too weak" - level wise you're comparing lv45-48 ARR monsters to lv50+ monsters in 1.0 which is really just apples to oranges.

There were level 99 monsters I could solo very easily on WAR & MNK in 1.22~

So I think mob "difficulty" is purely a subjective point.

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What lvl 99 mobs? I know you could do it with a party of Lancers before the nerf so this interest me.

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Originally Posted by WeiShan

1.23 was not a perfect game, far from it. (slow ui,copy & pasted maps, unrealistic lighting)
I quote my first post:"The atmosphere,the attractive immersion,the relax & romance feelings. something special that 1.0 had."

1.23 was an unfinished AAA MMO. it had depth, had an attractive atmosphere.
2.0 is a refined....theme park candy land.

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Having also played 1.0, I assume you DID play 1.0, I have to disagree with 1.0's 'attractive immersion'. The world zones were certainly larger and the hidden zone breaks made it feel even bigger (in Thanalan every thin, deep canyon was a zone break) but that shear blandness of every zone with only 2-3 unique elements made it feel more a slog to travel through than the zones of XI, which were largely unique and had alot more variety despite being a much older game on a much more inferior console (I speak of the PS2). Wow, that was a long sentence. With 2.0 the zones are certainly smaller but each one is unique, filled with elements rarely repeated. I love just chocobo'ing my way around the world because it's just nice to look at whereas 1.0 I used the airships and warped every time I needed to travel, it was that dreary.

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Originally Posted by Caselia

What lvl 99 mobs? I know you could do it with a party of Lancers before the nerf so this interest me.

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Lv99 Goblins in Mor Dhona are the best example I can remember.

I give you props for recognizing that it is purely based on nostalgia, OP, and not that it was because 1.0 was actually good at anything besides almost making Square bankrupt.

Kudos.

The only nostalgia I get from 1.0 was the frustrating exp cap and lol mole battles if there was no exp parties in limsa.

Only thing I really enjoyed from 1.0 were all the customization of abilities but that was it. 2.0 can pull that off easily especially if they introduce sub-jobs and I don't mean cross-class abilities.