Turn 9 Divebomb chart

Encore FC's Chart and Guide: http://encore.guildwork.com/forum/th...divebomb-guide

http://i.imgur.com/bTyiym3.png


The key insight we have to share is that there are only three formations and which wyrms dive first is known by which formation they are assuming. This allows for a level of simplicity when dealing with the divebombs because it removes any perceived randomness and follows a deterministic model.

We derived our our chart by examining our own recordings of the divebomb phase. We cross-checked our findings by watching recorded videos from other groups and watching twitch streams of other groups. Furthermore, we found a capable group on twitch, who were at divebombs, and shared our chart with them: their successful use of it provided further merit to the accuracy of our chart.

We believe our chart to be true. But as in any endeavor of science demands, our findings encapsulated in our guide need to be peer reviewed. That is what we ask of you. Coil reset is upon us and if you give our chart a try, it would be appreciated to hear your feedback on how valid you find our chart.

Chart and Guide: http://encore.guildwork.com/forum/th...divebomb-guide

Yeah we've been doing this for a little bit, stole the technology from a Japanese FC who was streaming it. It's pretty much accurate.

Thx for sharing the info. Looks very manageable now, although we aren't there yet. :)

really good job on this... after a couple of days of dive-failing, two-shotted after you shared this with us on twitch. The only thing we found useful to add to your diagram was the location of the second divebomb, relative to the yellow triangle.

Bumped....

What are Alpha, Beta, Gamma sign at the middle of ring ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by tOnni3

What are Alpha, Beta, Gamma sign at the middle of ring ?

---

I wasn't the author, but my guess is to denote the 3 different positions the dragon's can be in.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Menriq

I wasn't the author, but my guess is to denote the 3 different positions the dragon's can be in.

---

Yes.

Per the guide: Alpha, beta, gamma is marked on the formations to help communicate formation.

Many thanks. This was important in our first kill.

The way we do it, we mark the "safe spots" for each formation before we pull. Then when Phase 4 starts and the Dragons appear, we identify which formation it is as A, B or C. (Basically, what you call alpha, beta, gamma).

So when dragons spawn, someone calls out "It's B!", we know that B is the first safe spot for Divebombs.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by bokchoykn

Many thanks. This was important in our first kill.

The way we do it, we mark the "safe spots" for each formation before we pull. Then when Phase 4 starts and the Dragons appear, we identify which formation it is as A, B or C. (Basically, what you call alpha, beta, gamma).

So when dragons spawn, someone calls out "It's B!", we know that B is the first safe spot for Divebombs.

---

Good to hear it helped out.

We do the same. Our "divebomb spotter" got tired of spending time placing the markers during the fight, so we now have them placed at the very start. It works well, but requires everyone else in the party to know how to handle the 2nd divebomb of each phase (other teams end up placing A and a B for the first and second).

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by ticdup

Good to hear it helped out.

We do the same. Our "divebomb spotter" got tired of spending time placing the markers during the fight, so we now have them placed at the very start. It works well, but requires everyone else in the party to know how to handle the 2nd divebomb of each phase (other teams end up placing A and a B for the first and second).

---

Yeah, I think everyone knowing how to handle divebombs should be mandatory anyway. It's as simple as:

-Locating the last remaining dragon.
-Making sure its path to you is along the edge of the battlefield and not crossing through the middle.
-Running in a direction perpendicular to its path to you.

The waymarks should simply be a guide just to quickly identify and communicate the first safe spot, not as a substitute for players using their brain.

I hate repositioning waymarks mid-fight for this purpose, not only because people need to know how Divebombs work and shouldn't rely on one person to do the thinking for them, but mostly because dead people can't move waymarks. Single deaths are easily recoverable in this fight, but if the guy on waymark duty dies, everyone else will get shit on by the ensuing divebombs.