Monk and Turn 8

Before i start, i made a mistake in the title and do not know how to change the information. this is for turn 7 NOT turn 8

I repeat Turn 7 not turn 8 :) Thank you!

Hi guys i need some help and some tips. My dps is really lacking in T7. I don't know why. I try to maintain my dots as much as possible, use IR and BfB when up, though i generally don't use fracture.

My rotation is simple

DK > TW > SP
BS > TS > SP

I add DM and ToD as needed

My dps ranges around the 250 mark. I am not badly geared but simply my dps is seriously lacking i feel compared to my other team mates and i don't want be the one dragging them down. So with that said, any advice on this turn would be immensely appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
CPZ

1) What's your accuracy? You might be missing some attacks which would lead to a major DPS loss if you missed one of your combos.

2) Are you somehow losing your Greased Lightning stacks? I can't fathom you getting 250 DPS if you're always on the boss with 3 stacks of Greased Lightning all the time.

3) Did your team assign you for a specific job? (IE: homing missile, brain jack, etc.)

ACC is 475 though will be a bit higher after today (picking up Hero bracelet to replace maiming bracelet). However i miss like 2-3 in 2000 attacks.

At times yes im losing them. Especially when screech is on me and i have to run all the way to the back and position so everyone isnt petrified

otherwise im just dpsing as normal. Of course the ACT might be reading wrong, but not sure... But i kinda feel my dps is lower than it should be

here is my current:

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MD0F

And what ill have by tonight/tomorrow

http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MD0G

Though if i wanted more ACC i could go Inferno bangles instead of Hero's bracelets. just an option

Just to add, im not on boss full time, im also switching to adds when they pop as well (but that goes without saying i guess)

Thanks

What about the maiming earrings? That could help, you'll only lose 3 DET, but you probably won't miss.

I want those but dont have them, and T1 has been very annoying to me lately :/

your talking about turn 7 not turn 8, your dps is perhaps a little low but by no means concerning for turn 7.

turn 7 boss is named Melucine, turn 8 is name The Avatar.

When you parse, does your ACT count your auto attacks?

BAH! Yes your right its turn 7 >< Sorry for the derp....

Updated title and first post to reflect this......

And yes it does, i dont really miss unless Melusine looks at me as i attack. Frontal i occasionally miss but its not very often to make it a worry

So any tips on T7 to maximise dps?

Our mnk does about 270 ish on T7, but does 400+ on t8. it is just a fight with too much interruption. You can save more stacks by going to clear Voice as late as possible (1 sec on the debuff) and other things, but its not really a big deal. We hold DPS anyway before every phase shift anyway otherwise the Raynualt timing would be pretty harsh.

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Originally Posted by NightReach

Our mnk does about 270 ish on T7, but does 400+ on t8. it is just a fight with too much interruption. You can save more stacks by going to clear Voice as late as possible (1 sec on the debuff) and other things, but its not really a big deal. We hold DPS anyway before every phase shift anyway otherwise the Raynualt timing would be pretty harsh.

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Agreed with this. Be careful with waiting till the last second, as you don't want to accidentally petrify the wrong direction. I usually peel off at 3sec just to be safe. As for DPS numbers for the fight.... it really comes down to how often you're being targetted by shit. Are you getting long periods where neither voice/shriek target you? Are you being targetted by every single voice/shriek? DPS will vary widely between these scenarios.I typically try and get a ToD and DM on boss when adds pop, and usually try and keep it on throughout. This works well on death dancers, but usually only reapply after 2nd archer. If TP is good, I'll even toss in a Fracture for good measure.

MMh don't reallly know.I usually play DRG but on T7 i prefer MNK since the boss is not moving a lot.I'm first dps in the group even if 'im sometimes loosing my GL 3 stacks(mostly when i have to hide behind renaud to not petrify the raid)
Your rotation seems normal so you must have some miss i think.

If you have the right ilv, then gear isn't the issue; whatever change you can make to your 2ndary stats will be hardly noticeable. If you are a veteran at MNK and parse well on dummy or fights that you are familiar with, then its probably not your rotation either, unless the mechanics are causing you to mess up your rotation.

For melees, what it really comes down to is your uptime; unlike range, you cannot safely attack from anywhere on the field. There may be situations where you may think that its impossible to be attacking when the truth is that you can. When Titan HM first came out, melees were complaining that they can't compete with range cuz they lose too much uptime avoiding stuff; however, if you knew the fight and the bomb patterns, melee could keep attacking Titan at all times except when he becomes invulnerable. Good melees are those can spot these opportunities and capitalize on it. Unfortunately, it comes with a lot of risk, especially when you're still experimenting, which can cause people to bitch at you. If you're like me though, you can just tell them to suck it.

To expand upon this, yes. Uptime is the most important part of good dps for monks. For Turn 7 specifically, it's really about knowing exactly when and where the adds are going to spawn. As many know, 80% the first lamia comes out. It is crucial that the OT is in position to grab it before aggro gets nutty. As a monk, you should be timing you GCD to ready for a move as soon as this add spawns. 60% Archers, easy stuff. Just be ready to jump on them ASAP.

Voice is usually easiest to deal with by turning to drop with about 2 seconds remaining. Yes, shriek is probably going to make you drop GL3 (Unless you manage to time it jusssst right. You'll get better at it. If not, Perfect Balance is there for a reason)

As stated before me, uptime, uptime, uptime. As an i92 Determination stacking monk, I average about 300 dps (With EncDPS being about 2-4 points off. Uptime sonnn) and it just seems that The Second Coil of Bahamut has been mega melee friendly.

Rip it up monk bro

Not sure if anyone is same as mine, I noticed DK debuff icon keep disappearing after applied some time (not immidiately and not every time).
This is confusing whether I need to re-apply DK debuff.
Oh, and we got 2 monks in that fight. Also I set up to show only my debuff/dot, not sure if it relate.

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Originally Posted by tOnni3

Not sure if anyone is same as mine, I noticed DK debuff icon keep disappearing after applied some time (not immidiately and not every time).
This is confusing whether I need to re-apply DK debuff.
Oh, and we got 2 monks in that fight. Also I set up to show only my debuff/dot, not sure if it relate.

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If the other monk is also using DK, and you have it set to only display your dots and debuffs, it won't show that DK is up unless it's you specifically that applies it.

Thanks for the reply's all, luckily my group is very open for me to try stuff and get us wiped xD We have a friendly mentality and work together in every aspect. Despite our Tank in T6 constantly saying Chaos move move move xD

We will be doing more T7 tonight so will take a lot of what is said here into consideration. Thanks again for the info. I have upped my ACC to 487 with Tidal Petas, or 499 with Animus. I am assuming Tidal Petas is still the way to go before Soldiery/High allagan. if you dont need the ACC that is. Seeing as Animus just gives SkS, the 40 Crit i think weights in better?

Well after some adjustments (we only got up to the 4 archer phase before being petrified xD) i was able to maintain a 270dps average. Which for this fight i was pretty happy with. So thanks for the suggestions! Its appreciated