Myth botters or dup hack?

I've noticed for awhile now that there are a few players that would put up numerous myth mats, without any concerns about the drop in prices. They would almost immediately put up new mats when theirs is bought because they seem to have a ton of it. My train of though is: These must be masochists or they must be botting/hacking/exploiting something. Is myth botting common knowledge and I'm the only one out of the loop or do these people just enjoy/tolerate SRing dungeons that much? I think I've read somewhere on Reddit that people are indeed botting Brayflox or something.

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Originally Posted by PenutButter

I've noticed for awhile now that there are a few players that would put up numerous myth mats, without any concerns about the drop in prices. They would almost immediately put up new mats when theirs is bought because they seem to have a ton of it. My train of though is: These must be masochists or they must be botting/hacking/exploiting something. Is myth botting common knowledge and I'm the only one out of the loop or do these people just enjoy/tolerate SRing dungeons that much? I think I've read somewhere on Reddit that people are indeed botting Brayflox or something.

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Some people have no lives.

It simply could be a FC pooling everything together to one person/retainer. At least one person used to do this with philo tome mats pre-2.2 on my server.

I know a guy who spent the first two weeks after 2.2 with disregarding any new content but just farming myth tomes to become rich by selling the mats early. I have planned something similiar in the past too but always end to dive into the new content anyways lol.

There are people who farmed out to Animus in a week. That is 12 ATMA drops and 13,500 myth. In a week.

It's probably just someone with a lot of time to play.

I see this commonly with fcs bulk cash raising for housing, in fact I've taken a few on and have bought well over 30k myth per day out of some of them

It's very likely RMT'ers.

There are groups of 4 BLM's (all with Odin in their name) who are all geared exactly the same and appear now and again all day at Mor Dhona mail box.

I assume they are botting dg runs for myths.

how is this hard to believe? just look at how fast 50 tomes can be earned. the right team can have 550-600 tomes each per hour.
imo crafting is a lot easier but oh well, I guess some people like the no brain methods....

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Originally Posted by Sessurea

how is this hard to believe? just look at how fast 50 tomes can be earned. the right team can have 550-600 tomes each per hour.
imo crafting is a lot easier but oh well, I guess some people like the no brain methods....

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http://oi58.tinypic.com/53mhav.jpg

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2iik5me.jpg

Notice these screenshots are hours apart, yet all 4 of the characters are standing the the exact same positions, they are there for a few seconds and vanish once again...

Also notice their gears... all exactly the same lol

looks like a multiboxer to me, with the aa cc and dd in the names, makes it easier to distinguish the chars when playing.

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Originally Posted by scarebearz

Notice these screenshots are hours apart, yet all 4 of the characters are standing the the exact same positions, they are there for a few seconds and vanish once again...

Also notice their gears... all exactly the same lol

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They could just as easily be gil farming bots rather than myth. It's possible that the mats are coming from bots but what people are pointing out that it's also possible someone has a ton of time on their hands. I know an animus rusher who grinded for almost 24 hours straight for myth. Therefore, you can't immediately point fingers and blame bots/hackers.

I've seen two groups of people similar to that screen shot, except they all had names like yxxahgfasfnn and they were all dressed the same just standing in town for like a day straight.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

They could just as easily be gil farming bots rather than myth. It's possible that the mats are coming from bots but what people are pointing out that it's also possible someone has a ton of time on their hands. I know an animus rusher who grinded for almost 24 hours straight for myth. Therefore, you can't immediately point fingers and blame bots/hackers.

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They all had the exact same gears, party of 4 BLM's, teleporting at the exact same time, staying in their exact same place for hours.

There is not only human players playing those characters, I'm certain.

Just saw something like this on Mateus, too. It was a group of about 10-20 level 50 Lala Thaumaturges (not black mages) flickering in and out of Duty Finder in a massive stationary mob around a tree in Central Shroud all day yesterday. They all had preset random lala names and none where in FC's or GC's, and just kept appearing, singing up for duty, and disappearing the entire time I was there farming wind shards. Definitely a bot factory, and definitely needs to be stopped by SE ASAP, since it seems this is some new thing that is trending across servers if this thread is any indication.

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Originally Posted by Sarafan

looks like a multiboxer to me, with the aa cc and dd in the names, makes it easier to distinguish the chars when playing.

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I'm a multiboxer.
The screenshot above was not one of us, it's a bot. Check his lodestone, he don't even got a mount.

There are a lot of botters out there. A friend is using a bot for farming shards and myth at a rate of 2000 myth per 3 hours while sleeping..

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Originally Posted by Ravno

I'm a multiboxer.
The screenshot above was not one of us, it's a bot. Check his lodestone, he don't even got a mount.

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Not necessarily a bot, he could still be a boxer. If he is using characters to party teleport the others around, there is no need for a mount. it would also go some way to explain why they appear to be in the same positions if the TP alts never move from their position.

Never underestimate the financial power of some boxers. Some people think nothing of plopping hundreds a month on accounts. There was a famous boxer in WoW who ran 40 accounts simultaneously.

This is not a legit boxer.
No legit boxer will do a team with full dps on a game with no world pvp and even if someone do that he will at least get one healing spell from an other class.
And even with free party teleport, a mount is mandatory.
You can note he's got no guild too, even a lonewolf boxer will make is own.

Well true it would appear as though something is amiss, however it's still firmly in the realm of speculation at this stage. "It looks like x, therefore it must be x". I prefer to keep an open mind on this, as you could say there is no firm evidence either way.

I'd rather not cause a witch hunt for speculative reasons at this stage, and for that reason the OP and others probably want to remove those pics because naming and shaming is against the forum rules. I know it was posted in good faith, but it's probably best to file a ticket and let a GM investigate whether the player is legit.

Group like this appeared since Nov '13 on my server, SE did nothing. I am tired of reporting them as I have to type in their names every time.

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Not necessarily a bot, he could still be a boxer. If he is using characters to party teleport the others around, there is no need for a mount. it would also go some way to explain why they appear to be in the same positions if the TP alts never move from their position.

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But wouldn't he be at least BLM then? They're always only THM (without even having cross-class abilities as they have THM as their ONLY class).

Btw, I've also seen them on Moogle multiple times. They're always at the aetheryte plaza in Ul'dah. There are four of them actually but I always only see the first three ones. Probably going in a dungeon with someone who paid them for it? Don't know. O.o
They are THM with darklight gear and the standard human face.
Of course they don't have any mount and probably never did any real quest before.
But besides being THM they're also miner lvl 14. Weird.
Ah, and they all have the Astrolabe HQ from the market board. I wanted to buy one as I saw all HQ ones were gone and bought by spammers / botters - the price didn't even matter to them, as they also bought them at twice the price it was even worth then.

I saw a 10-boxer on Adamantoise. It was really suspicious, and definitely looked like a bot. Most legit boxers rely on /follow and stuff like that (unless there are new programs since I 3-boxed in WoW a while ago, but all legit boxers seem to use /follow), and they would get at least somewhat out of sync some of the times. When they're perfectly in sync and in formation it really looks like the values are hard-coded in in a bot/script, which would keep them in perfect formation than a dynamic real boxer.

Then again, maybe there are new boxing tools I'm not aware of, but I have never seen anything with such exact positioning and precision than I see these people. I'm pretty sure they're bots.

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Originally Posted by Lheana

There are a lot of botters out there. A friend is using a bot for farming shards and myth at a rate of 2000 myth per 3 hours while sleeping..

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Report him for botting or be implicated as an accomplice.

After the May 1 report that SE made about banning about 500 accounts, almost all of the retainers that I suspected of botting have disappeared and the prices of myth mats have skyrocketed. This pretty much confirmed that those players were indeed doing something illicit. As a crafter, this means that my profit has drop quit significantly (though prices of equipment might raise to reflect this in the future). Regardless, I am pleased with this development, I would gladly lose profit to prevent others from gaining easy and unfair profit.

they were on shiva as well, but have disappeared for what I can tell. but then so has most of the shard farmers and so as im sure with other servers prices have increased. the old myth mats are still around the same prices though with heavy fluctuation, the new ones are quite stable at the high prices of around 100k each except tawny latex at around 40k.

These are screens from the Malboro market. The same 3 retainers have been posting greater than 50,000 myth worth of mats at any one time and are almost instantly replenished if purchased since 2.2 hit.

This is clearly an automated bot farm =(

http://i.imgur.com/X8hRj1M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5cDNkx.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Well true it would appear as though something is amiss, however it's still firmly in the realm of speculation at this stage. "It looks like x, therefore it must be x". I prefer to keep an open mind on this, as you could say there is no firm evidence either way.

I'd rather not cause a witch hunt for speculative reasons at this stage, and for that reason the OP and others probably want to remove those pics because naming and shaming is against the forum rules. I know it was posted in good faith, but it's probably best to file a ticket and let a GM investigate whether the player is legit.

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It's a bot...

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Originally Posted by Rhapsodei

These are screens from the Malboro market. The same 3 retainers have been posting greater than 50,000 myth worth of mats at any one time and are almost instantly replenished if purchased since 2.2 hit.

This is clearly an automated bot farm =(

http://i.imgur.com/X8hRj1M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/f5cDNkx.jpg

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Or someone that just transfered from a server where they're worth like 1/4 of that.