Let us talk about Air-ships...

So let have a different topic on the forums for once.

So how about those personal and FC Air-ships Yoshi-P said we will eventually obtain?

As mentioned back when Housing was revealed one of the Function for Housing will be to serve as a area where we can build our own Air-ships.

What kind of role do you think Personal Air-ships and FC Air-ships will have in FF14ARR.

I'm going to guess Air-ships will play a important role in Main Scenario allowing players to travel into new continents, Areas, and Dungeons once they are released into the game through Expansions or Major Updates. Also, maybe a few dramatic epic cutscenes showing our character pilot our own Air-ships to progress in Main Scenario like these...

Piloting a Air-ship through a army of flying Dragons :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MqtmQ7EvUU

Piloting a Air-ship through a Air-ship Armada battle :p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6tZH6XB9ow

I only hope that Air-ships can be customized in FF14ARR once it is released.

Note: I mentioned this in a post I made months ago that Yoshi-P has mentioned in a interview that one of the themes for 1st expansion will be "Flying" hint that it may be in 3.0 when we finally can build and obtain our own Airships and "Flying" will serve a important role in 3.0.

Maybe if we're lucky, SE will take ANOTHER 0 off our gil and then try to charge us 500,000,000,000GIL to make one :D

On a serious note, i would love to build an FC airship and sail over seas with my free company, tackling pirates and krakens, fishing, maybe something like an airship raid, airship battling, oh this sounds exciting :D

The promise of custom built airships is among the main draws of the game for me, from as far back as the Eorzea Live launch event. That the ARR team still intends to follow through on that promise is a major reason I'm still playing XIV. Here's what I'd like to see when they finally implement Free Company airships.

*Make every craft relevant to building, customizing and flying FC airships.
Similar to how most Disciple of the Hand classes have recipes related to housing and furnishings, it should be simple to figure out which part of an airship each craft might manufacture. Additionally, participating in airship content as a Hand class grants an upkeep and/or repair bonus to the specific airship part which that class crafts.
Armorer: Frames determine an airship's size and defense.
Carpenter: Hulls improve an airship's defense and HP.
Alchemist: Engines determine acceleration and top speed.
Weaver: Balloons improve acceleration and turning radius.
Leatherworker: Envelopes improve HP.
Blacksmith: Outfits the airship with weapons, such as cannons and harpoons.
Goldsmith: Instrument panels improve weapon accuracy and radar effectiveness.
Culinarian: Certain foods improve abilities specific to airships, such as piloting skill or repair speed.

*Allow Free Company crests to be prominently displayed on the airship. By this I mean large emblems visible from a distance, not like the tiny patches we currently have for gear emblems. Standards or flags displaying the FC crest are definitely welcome.

*Take a page from Guns of Icarus. There's a game that is dedicated to airship combat. If it plays something like that, with several players working in tandem to pilot, operate weapons, and repair airship damage, then I think we'll have some compelling and fun airship content.

I'd Like to see a Sky Fortress as the "FC Airship". Within it, you can dock the member's ships.

FC members maintain the Sky Fortress. Maybe give it a durability system like gear that requires multiple people to maintain it. New items that function as Dark Matter. Each item only recovers a certain % of durability, so you'll need lots of these repair mats to fully repair a ship or the fortress.

Player ships can have NPC crew members they can hire. Maybe have these NPCs paid with Ventures. They can be assigned to a specific system. Manned systems are much more efficient:

Navigator - Adds PoIs to the minimap (enemies, friends, objectives, etc.)
Pilot - You
Weapons Specialist - Improves Weapon attack/reload/accuracy
Engineer - Repairs HP in battle (sorta like giving your ship Regen)
Comms - allows you to talk with other ships (maybe like a party made of ships instead of people).

3 different sizes like housing. Have an airship level. As the airship levels up, more equipment like advanced weaponry or reinforced hulls become equip able. This is so people can't "twink" their ships and gives a market for those low level hulls and weapons.

Story could be that Eorzea decides to counterattack Garlemald while they are still recovering from the failed invasion. Players use their ships to blow a hole in their front lines and to take the Empire's attention from the guys on the ground. OOOOOOO, I could talk about this for hours!

What's the point when the airship flight is just a zone transition and people rather teleport anyways and pay the extra 300gil.

First they need to balance transportation, because it's making me feel like this is a tiny world then sure I'd love an airship.

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Originally Posted by Lucke

I'd Like to see...

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tons of cool ideas in this post :P thumbs up sir!

Itll probably come up when we get a new continent to explore (first expac most likely)

Id like to see some airship PvP a la Guns of Icarus.

sadly i was met with the horrible response of flying mounts in this game the world is just not big enough for them to many zones this is not WOW where invisible walls are really non existent as much as i like the idea i see little to no use for them other than a way to tempt crafters to make them only to be bitten with the fact that there is no real use for them making crafting once a again a waste of time!!

Didn't they mention something about Estates getting their own Retainers?

inb4 all an Airship gets you is a special Retainer Venture. Although that could work quite well, send Retainer off on Airship, they discover X location, you then travel to X location for special harvest nodes, enemies, dungeons, etc.

Personally I'd like to see a Frontier zone for Free Companies though. Once your Free Company has an Airship, you get your own randomly generated zone filled with random enemies and so on which basically plays out like Minecraft/Terraria; Build a base, defend your base (from FATEs lawl), explore, change the landscape, find dungeons.

I would personally love to see Airships have unique and diverse roles.

There's so many possibilities but what can "work" is subjective when it comes to getting people to implement feedback and proper criticism (and I mean criticism not plain out whining and tantrum throwing).

Though I do hope we can get free travel and selected travel (might need our own crew, retainer potential?).

Kinda like how we have now with the Chocobo mount where you can take any route you wish and aggro mobs or take the Chocobo porter at a cost but it's a direct safe route.

There could also be "Airship only" zones. They wouldn't fly above people's heads or anything, but a zone could be called "Above Thanalan" and it encompasses the skies above ALL of Thanalan: Eastern, Western, Northern, Southern, and Central. Zone lines could be in the sky that function like the ones on the ground, just fly into them to zone into another sky zone. IE "Skies of Thanalan" to "Above the Shroud".

SE could also populate the skybox above the ground zones with just random computerized ships. So if there are a lot of ships flying above Thanalan, the people on the ground could look up and see a bunch of random ships flying around. Maybe if there is Eorzea v. Empire airship battles, they could see these random computer controlled ships fight each other which symbolizes the people up above fighting.


If there are ground zones and sky zones, I'd like to see landmarks on the ground from the sky. So, like that thing in Cape Westwind, I wanna see that while I'm in the sky in my ship. Or if I'm flying over Coerthas, I wanna see Ishgard, or any of the city-states for that matter.

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A crafting workshop where players can build vehicles such as airships.
Guess I read it wrong ;/

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Originally Posted by Lucke

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That's How I always pictured It in this game. Having like an overworld from above Eorzea, With Designated Landing points in The Cities

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Originally Posted by ZeroRains

Im 99% Sure he just meant with a small house you could FIT a airship in, not actually build one

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And I'm 100% sure that they added basements to small sized houses so any Free Company with housing would have workshop space for airships. Notice the last bullet point on the preview page in the link.

There will most likely be zones and instances added specifically for airship content. I'm super excited for it!

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Originally Posted by Litre

What's the point when the airship flight is just a zone transition and people rather teleport anyways and pay the extra 300gil.

First they need to balance transportation, because it's making me feel like this is a tiny world then sure I'd love an airship.

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As of now Air-ships appear to be a content used to travel into zones out of reach from ground travel.

Current info shows that Air-ships will not be a flying mount but more like a traveling item used to access places only Air-ships can reach such as New continents, dungeons, and etc.

basically if you want to access certain contents you may be required to have your own Air-ship if you want to access certain content or new areas in future contents

Such as if we are given a Garlean Mothership as a New dungeon during a Garlean Air-ship Armada vs GC Air-ship Armada event we will need a Air-ship to unlock the dungeon and enter it so we can continue the storyline.

So u need a fc and possibly with a fair amount of money in order to enjoy the expansion you bought? Dont make sense

Think a few zones will be:
1. Nym Ruins
2. Garlean Airships
3. In the middle of nowhere islands
4. Allagan Spaceships

We all know it'll work like this:

After spending millions of gil, tons of materials and likely hundreds of man hours to build your very own FC airship...

You will have an airship dock at your FC house, that can only be used there, that brings up a menu of the 3 cities. It will have a short, skippable ~10 second cutscene of you flying away/landing at the city.

And that's it. Nothing more, just a dock at your house identical in function to those in each city.

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Originally Posted by Rapoza

So u need a fc and possibly with a fair amount of money in order to enjoy the expansion you bought? Dont make sense

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There will be two kinds of Air-ships for players to obtain being...

Personal Air-ships = Personal Character Use

FC Air-ships = FC use

There is also going to be a default location outside of housing for players to craft their Personal and FC Air-ships.

Only location I can think of that SE would add into the game to serve as the hub for crafting Air-ships is the Garlond Ironwork's Headquarters which we don't have access to yet.

If 3.0 does require Air-ships for certain Main Scenario content you can be certain a small part of 3.0 Main Scenario will be about obtaining our Default Design Personal Air-ship for our own character.

The current air-ship models in the game are the small air-ships being Tiny Bronco and Enterprise as examples so we already a sample of small air-ships