No changes to ATMA?

You delay a content patch, and acknowledge issues with the system.

But you don't make any changes to it?

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SE please don't become like Enmasse/Bluehole Studios. Tera didn't end up well.

Because i have already my atma. So i will be disapointed if they nerf it :)

Nothing will be nerf and no one force you to do it.

Why change it? Its fine as it is :D

It's really not.

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Originally Posted by SionDurant

You delay a content patch, and acknowledge issues with the system.

But you don't make any changes to it?

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SE please don't become like Enmasse/Bluehole Studios. Tera didn't end up well.

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If there are changes for the Atmas it will be in 2.28 or 2.3. They don't promise that they will change anything btw.

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Originally Posted by SionDurant

You delay a content patch, and acknowledge issues with the system.

But you don't make any changes to it?

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SE please don't become like Enmasse/Bluehole Studios. Tera didn't end up well.

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They delayed it to rework the Nova quests. There would be no delay needed for Atma changes.

Atma is fine the way it is. People are just too impatient.

that's why they delay it, to make changes?

Seems like a minor patch to me...which is why there'll be no ATMA changes til 2.3 :D

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

Atma is fine the way it is. People are just too impatient.

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I've been patient enough, thanks. I've spent 20 hours in hell known as "Southern Thanalan" with no Atma to show for it. Yet I have friends who have gotten all 12 Atmas in that same amount of time. This system is an absolute joke.

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

I've been patient enough, thanks. I've spent 20 hours in hell known as "Southern Thanalan" with no Atma to show for it. Yet I have friends who have gotten all 12 Atmas in that same amount of time. This system is an absolute joke.

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ppl spent 20 weeks in turn 5, with nothing to show for it.
Animus is as option for those that cant do 2nd coil, or twintania and LeviX for that matter.
Shouldn't be quick and easy to get in an afternoon.

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Originally Posted by SionDurant

You delay a content patch, and acknowledge issues with the system.

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Delayed to adjust Novus.


Did you really need to make yet another new thread about Atma, when you started 3 others?

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• No changes to ATMA?
• Possible Alternative to current Atma?
• Can't deal with Atma
• Please change Atma

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

Atma is fine the way it is. People are just too impatient.

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It really is not...

Change what? Follow chart, get atma.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

Got all but like 3 of my atma going by this with little issue. Actually have a bunch of dupes because of it as well.

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Originally Posted by necrosis

Change what? Follow chart, get atma.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...arming_theory/

Got all but like 3 of my atma going by this with little issue. Actually have a bunch of dupes because of it as well.

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Speaking as someone who has his atma and animus shield, that entire cheat sheet is pure hogwash. It's circumstantial and anecdotal at best.

Nothing has been verified to work and it's people who got lucky at those hours that got an atma that say "oh em gee this works!!"

It's pure rng. Bout it.


Coming back to the topic at hand I must say I had a chuckle when I read patch notes and saw no changes after they delayed the novus part of the quest and one of the reasons was to implement changes to the current atma/animus situation.

Such is life.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

ppl spent 20 weeks in turn 5, with nothing to show for it.
Animus is as option for those that cant do 2nd coil, or twintania and LeviX for that matter.
Shouldn't be quick and easy to get in an afternoon.

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Except... 20 weeks of turn 5 alone will give you 1000 myth. which could be used to (suprise) buy i90 gear. 20 hours of atma farming and that next fate still has the same low% of giving you a drop...that you use to get a weapon that is different in name/appearance only...that you now have to spend 13,500 myth (45+ hours of myth farming, as well as the actual requirements to complete the books) to upgrade.

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Originally Posted by Radacci

ppl spent 20 weeks in turn 5, with nothing to show for it.
Animus is as option for those that cant do 2nd coil, or twintania and LeviX for that matter.
Shouldn't be quick and easy to get in an afternoon.

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that's a pretty bad analogy. You win T5 you are guaranteed loot while if you win the fate it's all or nothing. Plus where are people getting this "people want it quick and easy" shit from? The system too all control from the player to progress to a luck base system.

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Change what? Follow chart, get atma.

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Tried it. If it actually does anything (which I sincerely doubt, considering it still hasn't even made clear which time zone is taken into account), it's an insignificant difference.

It makes me laugh how impatient the playerbase of this game is. You can't have everything handed to you.

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

It makes me laugh how impatient the playerbase of this game is. You can't have everything handed to you.

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It makes me laugh that people like you still think this is about patience and getting things easy. Get it through your thickhead, is neither of that. People are more then willing to spend time to get something, nobody here wants things handed to them either. The point is simple, the RNG system is flawed and grinding boring as low level fates is not a fun experience. I much rather have a hard, long and difficult quest line where skill and my actual class skills come into play and then at the end getting a reward that I worked for.

Instead we have this. Lvl 10-20 fates grinding endlessly with 1-2 skills at our disposal hour after hour waiting for that 1 Atma to drop.. yeah..not fun. You know why spending 20 week in coil 5-9 isnt a problem? It is fun. I have no issues with the RNG system in dungeons and raids as they are fun to do. I don't get my item, no big deal Ill wait and repeat and have fun in the progress. With Fates... I do not. I wait, I repeat, I wait, I repeat, I wait, I repeat, I wait, I repeat all while pressing 4...4..4..4..4.4.4.4.4.4.4.4..4 on every mob(4 has my insta cast low lvl bio on it) waiting for that potential atma...

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Originally Posted by Nadrojj

It makes me laugh how impatient the playerbase of this game is. You can't have everything handed to you.

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..or you can... depends on RNG.

What do you mean no changes? It says at the bottom that they changed the colors of most of em....

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

I've been patient enough, thanks. I've spent 20 hours in hell known as "Southern Thanalan" with no Atma to show for it. Yet I have friends who have gotten all 12 Atmas in that same amount of time. This system is an absolute joke.

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You don't know patience until you've worked customer service in retail. Just do your regular quests and go to FATEs on your way, if you prefer. I've gotten Atmas like that.

depending on anything truly rng like this doesn't require patience just a little control...stuck in one area jump to another for a bit a change of scenery sometims helps keep you interesting....

who am i kidding the system sucks because rng with no true goal in sight sucks

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

I've been patient enough, thanks. I've spent 20 hours in hell known as "Southern Thanalan" with no Atma to show for it. Yet I have friends who have gotten all 12 Atmas in that same amount of time. This system is an absolute joke.

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I would just like to add onto this:

Two friends and I were hunting in Southern Thanalan two days ago. We were there specifically to help him get Atma of the Scorpion. Three hours later, he still did not have an atma, and my other friend and I were +2 of the things. We felt so damn bad since he had been hunting for many hours before we began to help. The system is broken from a reasonable standpoint.

To bad they can't/won't design it in a way, that when anyone in your group's "luck/rng" kicks in, where it drops into the loot pool. That would be a cool way to change it, and leave the drop/rate alone. You could form a group, and stick around until everyone has their drop. Or friends could come help you, and their luck will help you out, if your luck sucks.

Yeah, well, just so long as it isn't another Treasure Hunter fiasco. I get douche chills thinking about how often I was used as a human good luck charm in FFXI.

It's perfect because I already have 3 Animus and I got them all in a single day, if they changed it I wouldn't be a special lucky butterfly anymore!

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Originally Posted by Harmonium

Because i have already my atma. So i will be disapointed if they nerf it :)

Nothing will be nerf and no one force you to do it.

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So because the system "worked" for you means it shouldn't be changed? That's not a very good point for your argument. This doesn't mean that the system isn't flawed or in need of changing.

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Originally Posted by Roris

It's perfect because I already have 3 Animus and I got them all in a single day, if they changed it I wouldn't be a special lucky butterfly anymore!

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So what wonders did you perform to get the required 40.500 Myths for that in 24 hours. As well as 36 Atma pieces. And grinded out 36 Books of tedious and time-consuming tasks, all in the span of 24 hours? Minus sleep, 18 hours?

In before "Calling bullshit on this".

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Originally Posted by Surian

So what wonders did you perform to get the required 40.500 Myths for that in 24 hours. As well as 36 Atma pieces. And grinded out 36 Books of tedious and time-consuming tasks, all in the span of 24 hours? Minus sleep, 18 hours?

In before "Calling bullshit on this".

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All that matters is it's fair because I could do it and others couldn't all thanks to RNG, see that makes it totally fair, also Final Fantasy is great I love Final Fantasy, period.

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Originally Posted by Surian

So what wonders did you perform to get the required 40.500 Myths for that in 24 hours. As well as 36 Atma pieces. And grinded out 36 Books of tedious and time-consuming tasks, all in the span of 24 hours? Minus sleep, 18 hours?

In before "Calling bullshit on this".

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I'm guessing a troll post, even if you were to do 24 hour straight sessions of pure Atma/Animus it will be impossible to gain an Animus weapon in that time. :P

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Originally Posted by Skyl1n3

I'm guessing a troll post, even if you were to do 24 hour straight sessions of pure Atma/Animus it will be impossible to gain an Animus weapon in that time. :P

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Or a post laced with extreme Sarcasm, that goes into the territory of being very overblown with its example of how fair vs. unfair could occur (even in a near-impossible situation, lol.)

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Originally Posted by Kyousha

Just do your regular quests and go to FATEs on your way, if you prefer. I've gotten Atmas like that.

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regular quests? as if the game has open world quests.

the only Atma i've gotten so far is from a FATE tied to Kobold dailies, the only other one i probably will get is when i go back to doing the Sahagin ones.

and i spend plenty of time playing the game, only 3 pieces short of full i90 or higher on every job.

no way am i doing a quest this mind-numbingly boring that's 100% based on range.

This is such BS! Like, guys, it is seriously taking longer then a week to get my new weapon. This is so unfair. Why does this MMO have a RNG system? This is totally the only game that even has one, like seriously. So unfair. Omg.

Come talk to me after you spent over a year getting your Duelist Chapeau -1 to finally drop from dynamis.

Good, you are not forced to do this, there are the leviathan weapons and gerolt's masterworks.

seriously, do not compare FF14 to FF11, and the gaming community change.. u want to waste your years in FF11 style go back to FF11..

time vs achievement. personal or public no 1 care. the issue is unfairness.. do u need to see that 144 pages from the feedback to understand that?

They will eventually nerf it for sure. And I'll wait until that time. I don't have much time to play as is and grinding fates for hours a day with no reward at all at times (with bad luck) is not my idea of a good time.

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Originally Posted by Makado

This is such BS! Like, guys, it is seriously taking longer then a week to get my new weapon. This is so unfair. Why does this MMO have a RNG system? This is totally the only game that even has one, like seriously. So unfair. Omg.

Come talk to me after you spent over a year getting your Duelist Chapeau -1 to finally drop from dynamis.

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Dynamis was fun for me the 50th time, FATEs weren't the 5th time.

and every time i ran Dynamis, someone i knew got something, FATEs don't give me a damn thing that i want if the Atma doesn't drop.

try again.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

Dynamis was fun for me the 50th time, FATEs weren't the 5th time.

and every time i ran Dynamis, someone i knew got something, FATEs don't give me a damn thing that i want if the Atma doesn't drop.

try again.

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Fates are fun for me.