Commendation System!

So I really love this system, the ONLY issue I have is that I can't thank someone because I like to run in a party!

I don't want to commend my friend but I can't help feel awful if I'm with a really good player and I can't show my thanks through a commendation...

I was thinking it could be changed so that you can still use the system in a party but you just can't use it on anyone IN your party.. Currently if there are two separate parties then no one gets a commendation. :(

What do you think?

You can always say, "Hey bro, your skillz are mad bro, I enjoy playing with you bro, I'm in a party so I can't commend you bro, if you were a potato based food bro you would be a tater tot bro, because tater tots are the best potato based food bro." I suggest making a macro, since you may not want to type it all out every time.
Really I agree you should be able to commend folks as long as you didn't que up with them, but just like the duty roulette, it was implemented pretty quickly, and they have said they are looking to let multiple people que up for roulettes together maybe they can work this in too.

Hi, welcome, and yes, yes...

It happens to me all the time I enter to dungeons and see people that really really deserves a commendation, but... I can't because I entered there with someone of the FC...

That pisses me off. But, in other part, makes more difficult the way of gaining commendations, and.... That's challenging.

Commendation system in my opinion is the biggest anti-troller utility of the game, and also it is rewarding to obtain few of them when you tank or heal, makes you still want to use those roles.

Edit: What Mschiggs-san said...It was planned for 2.3 to allow people do roulette together, also can queue while chocobo is summoned. So far that's the only interesting thing I know coming in 2.3 and that will improve a lot the quality game... Who knows, maybe they also solve this issue with commendations.

I always run in parties too, and when I get a comm, I feel bad because I'm not able to give one back. I'd definitely like to see the aforementioned changes implemented.

My FC members and myself when get a good tank or healer, we would like to be able to commend them 110%.

It shouldn't be hard to have the system know that my friends and I when we joined in should not be able to game the commendation system and commend each other.

And it is really make me feel bad, when I get a commendation and they did NOT when they really did deserve it more.

A simple solution would be to have a commendable bit mask, a whole whopping byte for 8 players. The player that join in as party, will have the commendable bit set to false. And that means I would forgo the possibility of getting commended because I was already in party, but in exchange I can comment random that join us in the instance.

Sadly it my not be that easy. When we join a DF it splits all the people up and places them on the server for the dungeon then recreates the group. If that information isn't passed from one server to another, they have no way of knowing who came from where. It would be possible to send that data with the players, but programming it might be a trail and so it takes time, if they are even looking into something like that.

but if it can recognise a party surely it could recognise other things

This would be very nice, and still optional. I hope they allow us to vote for players who where not in our pre-formed group. :)

Maybe they could not only allow you to comment others but also detect the ones that came in a party. That way the system would have it easier for know who can't vote who...

So, how? Similar to the alliances when you join to a CT, that autoassings you in one. Here in the party made it would be similar but using any other thing. For example, imagine a dungeon of 4 people, two groups of two premade persons. It would show for example that both DPS entered there in a premade party by showing their name in the same color in the party list, green for example. While the healer and tank have other color showing they were from another premade.

Of course, this distinction could be something else, not only the color name, it could be just to share a symbol aside of the name, a little bar with a color aside of the class icon... Options are too many...So if Square Enix is able to detect the groups of premade, they are also able to allow you to vote everyone except those who share your premade... It is basically a classic "if / else" ...

If the partyset is not the same than own, then put the available command/method/option for vote, else no.

This is being addressed, possibly in 2.3, not sure, but we have already had a dev response to this very topic. They are looking to allow us to do it, which is good as I'm quite often teamed up and sometimes you do come across nice people that you'd commend if you could!

I hate to say it but I think there should be more rewards. It doesn't seem to have any effect on people being total *****s sometimes.
Just give them a vanity pet or something at 300 so they can remember the system is there.

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Originally Posted by Seif

I hate to say it but I think there should be more rewards. It doesn't seem to have any effect on people being total *****s sometimes.
Just give them a vanity pet or something at 300 so they can remember the system is there.

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someone doesn't check his archivement

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10 title
50 minion
100 crown
300 barding
500 gilded magitek mount

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you dont need 2nd minion

and in 2.2 player get challenge log for give 5 commendation/week, so if they dont give you then....

It is rather annoying.
Can we get it so we just can't vote for our party members?
Or go to a 2/1 system. 2 Coms for people outside your party, and 1 for people inside your party?

Don't know, kind of like the first suggestions better.

Hmm the only issue with this, is that if you join as a party of 3 there is only 1 place all 3 commendations can go, I suppose you still have the choice not to commend someone though.

This system must be rough for DPS who want their gold shiny mount.

I can sometimes understand feeling like I'm not getting as many as the others simply because I'm a dps -- but say the run goes without a hitch, but no one talked! Is there a certain etiquette to ensure that everyone gets a commendation if they did their part exceptionally well? D=

I agree with you about giving commendations to people outside of your party, it's a great idea! I've had many people that I enjoyed running a dungeon with, and then I realized I couldn't give them a commendation because I was in a party and not able to do so. My only concern is that I can see something like this being really low on the implementation viewpoint since commendations aren't actually useful for anything major in game. I'm not saying don't implement it, but I also can't see it being changed anytime soon. :(

It's also hard to give commendations to PC players. By the time I skipped the CS and the PS3 is done loading they are usually long gone.

slightly OT, but ...

As we don't have ability to block in the most cases in DF being cross server, can at least we get -1 option for the ones who act like *****?

Or, even better, something to enable us to make sure we never get one of those players in party again -- not to mention that it would do wonders to the attitude of them knowing that with every **** behavior their chances for the next party shrinks.

I fully support this idea. On day one of the commendation system being introduced I had this amazing healer that did damn near everything perfectly (minimal overheals, DPS when viable, you name it), and because I was partied up with a friend, I couldn't commend him/her. It's really a shame when you meet a stand out player like that and you can't give them the full recognition that they deserve (aside from telling them in party chat).

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Originally Posted by Sir_Renoko_Asontano

I can sometimes understand feeling like I'm not getting as many as the others simply because I'm a dps -- but say the run goes without a hitch, but no one talked! Is there a certain etiquette to ensure that everyone gets a commendation if they did their part exceptionally well? D=

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If the run was fine and no one really stood out, then a good system is for tank to commend heal, heal to commend tank, and dps to commend each other. Then everyone gets a commendation.

In 8 person runs, tanks commend each other, heals commend each other ... and dps ... well ... that's a bit harder. I commend the dps who appears in the party list after me (or back to the top if I'm the last), but that's not a common system.

It been posted by a dev some were put giving commendations to players out your party is being worked on and was planned for 2.3 if we see any more this we can all hope.

I don't think you should be able to commentate people who you joined a party with. It could lead to people joining and spamming commendations on one person to speed along thier achievements. Truthfully i would rather have someone tell me i did a good job than give me a commendation at the end. Social recognition is alot better =D

While we're on the topic of commendations, would it kill SE to allow us to commend players who leave the instance? Some people make a mad dash for the exit too soon :D