No end game 1H + Shield for WHM?

It seems odd that they even give you a choice of having 1H and Shield in the earlier game when end game gear for WHM is all 2H from what I've seen (example: relic weapon-you can only really choose 2H). Correct me if I am wrong?

I think THM is the same way?

The Leviathan weapon for WHM is 1-handed.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

The Leviathan weapon for WHM is 1-handed.

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what he said, u have levi wep and levi shield, so...

Ah, ok, thanks, good to know. But no level 100+?

Hmmm... I definitely like the "style" of wand and shield better than staff (I'm more of a mystical swordsman type than a pure caster type by nature), but that is some huge stat penalties I'd take from not using the level 100+ gear...

Tidal Wave wand and shield are i100, I think, but you'll also have to farm Leviathan EX for a mirror.

You'll also have to deal with subpar secondaries, since the wand has crit. One thing about this game is itemization is very poor. Hopefully it improves but for now you'll just have to deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Tidal Wave wand and shield are i100, I think, but you'll also have to farm Leviathan EX for a mirror.

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Good to know. Guess I have to farm Leviathan EX for two mirrors and two items x.x the fun.

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Originally Posted by ariaandkia

Good to know. Guess I have to farm Leviathan EX for two mirrors and two items x.x the fun.

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Only one mirror. In patch 2.25, they will be changing it so that you need only one mirror for both.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Only one mirror. In patch 2.25, they will be changing it so that you need only one mirror for both.

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No, that's scheduled to be implemented prior to 2.3, not IN 2.25. The temp fix until then is to have Tidal shields drop directly.

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Originally Posted by subteraneanbird

You'll also have to deal with subpar secondaries, since the wand has crit. One thing about this game is itemization is very poor. Hopefully it improves but for now you'll just have to deal with it.

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Healer itemization in general matters very little. After MND it's all just gravy. Even for SCH and Crit.

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Originally Posted by SeraviEdalborez

Healer itemization in general matters very little. After MND it's all just gravy. Even for SCH and Crit.

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Pretty much, except piety. Have to have enough pie to make it through the fight.
The Daystar and Allagan gear no longer have it on every piece. That makes non-pie weapons at i100/110 a bit less desirable.

do u want more pie than mnd?

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

do u want more pie than mnd?

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No, but there's piety on every slot at the highest ilvl, so there's no point in, say, using crafted to get more piety, because you WOULDN'T get more piety.

The only real option we have to sacrifice mind for piety is in stat allocation, and a 1 to 1 swap mind for piety is no thanks.

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Originally Posted by Menae

No, but there's piety on every slot at the highest ilvl, so there's no point in, say, using crafted to get more piety, because you WOULDN'T get more piety.

The only real option we have to sacrifice mind for piety is in stat allocation, and a 1 to 1 swap mind for piety is no thanks.

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There's actually many high end healer pieces that don't have piety on them anymore, which was a good move by SE to be honest.

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Originally Posted by AldoVonAlexandros

do u want more pie than mnd?

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Not usually, but if you just pick the highest ilvl you've got you could find you don't have enough pie anymore. For example: If you went full daystar because you've had no allagan drops you'd probably be in mana-trouble all the time.
Sort of like with accuracy. Plenty of people had/have to forgo ilvl for accuracy before they've gotten the drops they want.

If you're trying to think in best-in-slot terms you've never sacrifice mind for piety. But BiS sort of ignores the reality that you don't just magically get all the things you want right away.

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Originally Posted by ispano

There's actually many high end healer pieces that don't have piety on them anymore, which was a good move by SE to be honest.

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I was unclear.

You are correct in that there are several i110 options with no Piety; what I meant to say is that in every equipment slot there is at least one ilevel 110 (115 for weapon) piece with Piety on it. Thus there is no real way to trade away Mind to get Piety on equipment; the i110 pieces with Piety are have the same amount of Mind as those without, and more Piety than any other option. You can potentially (depending on armor slot) trade Determination, Spell Speed, or Crit for Piety on equipment; the only way to trade Mind for Piety at equivalent gear levels is with stat allocation points.