Can someone explain the classes and the chat system to me

Is there anyone out there who can give me a break down of every class in this game and how to get it.What i am going after is pld so can anyone please tell me what i need to get there and what jobs i should level to use with pld.If something like sub jobs from 11 are in this.

my other question is what are the chat command again i know in 11 it is /say /party /shout and so on did any of that change.I am really mostly wanting to know if the /shout and /yell were changed or not.

thank you everyone for the help and support a head of time.

one other thing just double checking pld still uses short swords right.

I'm not sure on class pre-reqs for the jobs, but I'll tell ya what I know.

PLD: Tank. Need CNJ to 15. Advanced form of GLD. Uses edged weapons and shields. Better at Single target tanking like bosses (IMO).

WAR: Tank. Uses Great Axes. I find them more squishy than PLD, but they have more HP to make up for it. Better at AoE tanking, like trash on the way to bosses (IMO)

WHM: Healer. Advanced form of CNJ. Uses Staves and one handed things. Your sterotypical healer. Has the best form of Protect and Stoneskin.

SCH: Advanced form of ACN. Uses a faerie to help heal and buff. They seem to specialize in wards that absorb dmg rather than just straight healing.

DRG: Damage dealer. Advanced form of lancer. Does not use a wyvern pet. Pretty good DPS if you use your combos effectively.

MNK: Damage dealer. Advanced form of PUG. Specializes in combos by using forms. Dependent on their combos building up. If they are idle too long, their combo fades and they do worse damage.

BLM: Magic Damage dealer. Advanced form of THM. Very good AoE damage dealer. Can tear aggro from the tanks if your blow all your big spells at the start. Gotta know how to ride that aggro threshold.

SMN: Magic damage dealer. Advanced form of SMN. Best DoT job. Weak burst damage, they specialize in DoTs. More effective in longer fights.

BRD: Ranged physical Damage dealer. Advanced from of ARC. Use songs to support party at the cost of own offense. Can do crazy damage if mastered. They are classified as a damage dealer but they use healing Limit break.

The chats are the same as 11. When you get into a free company, to talk, use /fc.

There are no subjobs per se. Classes can learn abilities from the other classes, but they aren't ass effective. Jobs use abilities and traits from their base class (PLD uses GLD skills and traits) and can use select abilities from 2 of it's support class. PLD can use CNJ spells and a couple MRD abilities. Traits are exclusive to the native class. they are not transferable.

Arcanist (ACN) has 2 specs as you can see. They can become both SCH (a healer) and SMN (damage dealer). Note however that when you spend your points, you spend them inyour class, not your job, so if you spend your 20 points in INT, that affects your SCH and your SMN. Both jobs share that bonus so you have to choose which spec you wanna go in. You can also split it between INT and MND. That 20 points doesn't make a huge difference. I spent 20 point in INT and my SCH doesn't seem to suffer for it.

Class Q&A guide has a chunk of information on the classes & jobs. You could also check any of the many wikis.

But for the specifics you asked for, there isn't really much of a sub job here. You can use certain cross-class skills from various classes. When you're using a class (e.g., GLA), you're not limited in what other classes you can take skills from. When you're using a job (e.g., PLD), you have two specific classes you can take skills from. For PLD, those classes are Conjurer and Marauder. To unlock the quest that gives you the PLD soul stone, you need to have GLA at 30 and CNJ at 15.

The various chat commands are all listed here. /shout covers an entire zone, while /yell is just like /say with a larger area.

Yes, PLD uses swords/daggers (and shields).

hi,
this site is well documented:

http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Paladin

To play a PLD you need lvl Gladiator to 30 and Conjurer to 15.
Then you can cross class some skill from Conjurer and Marauder.

for text commands to chats thats pretty much it :)

list of text commands
(PC, PS3, PS4 same commands)

and between shout and yell, shout does send to entire zone.

I put up this thread about the chat channels a few days ago - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-chat-channels

rather then making a new thread i think asking here would be a good idea.can someone give me a much more in depth idea of how i sell things in 14 like we do in 11 on the auction house.seeing as i just unlocked what would be the auction house on 14 and i do not understand it so can someone explain please.

also can anyone tell me what the time limit between each yell is so that it is not called as spam. in 11 it is something like 2-3mins anyone know the time limit on 14 yet?

All of the jobs so far start when your main class is lv30 and you have a sub class to lv15. At the guild for you main class, after you turn in its lv30 quest, there will be a new quest available to receive the job soul crystal, example: gladiators get the paladin upgrade. To sell things on the marketplace you must hire a retainer, you can find an npc for this in the shopping area of each city, and in your retainer's menu will be the option to sell items on the market at a price of your choosing.

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Originally Posted by Rufalus

All of the jobs so far start when your main class is lv30 and you have a sub class to lv15. At the guild for you main class, after you turn in its lv30 quest, there will be a new quest available to receive the job soul crystal, example: gladiators get the paladin upgrade. To sell things on the marketplace you must hire a retainer, you can find an npc for this in the shopping area of each city, and in your retainer's menu will be the option to sell items on the market at a price of your choosing.

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When i am at it i need to ask is there a better way to make gil something like 40k-50k so i have the money just for my level 1-10 gear and weapon? I also was told i messed up the spelled of my last name so wanted to know is there any way to change it or do i need to delete him and remake him i will if i have 2 remake him he is only level 3.

Faster to make a new character as it is only lvl 3.

For gil, you should focus on Main quest and class quests up to your way to 50 for your 1st class.
Quests and dungeons will give you most of the needed items to equip yourself and gil too.

You level way too fast to invest a lot of gils in early levels

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Originally Posted by Kawar

rather then making a new thread i think asking here would be a good idea.can someone give me a much more in depth idea of how i sell things in 14 like we do in 11 on the auction house.seeing as i just unlocked what would be the auction house on 14 and i do not understand it so can someone explain please.

also can anyone tell me what the time limit between each yell is so that it is not called as spam. in 11 it is something like 2-3mins anyone know the time limit on 14 yet?

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Selling stuff is pretty simple. You put stuff from either your inventory or your retainer's up for a price. People can see that price and choose to buy the item(s) or not. If you're selling stacks, they can only buy exactly what you've put up; so it's a good idea to have some idea of the quantities people need of some items. E.g., if you've got 7 of something, it might sell faster as a stack of 5 and 2 individual items than as a stack of 7. And you can generally charge a little more per item for smaller stacks, since people will often buy only what they need. When you go to set the price, there is a little page icon in the upper right of that window that shows the sales history for that item.

For shouts and yells, just be reasonable. Everyone has a different threshold for annoyance, and it also depends on how much else is being shouted/yelled, and how long the thing you're shouting is. "LFM 2xTank Coil T6" only takes up one line and doesn't interfere with other chat too badly. A giant FC recruitment shout that takes up four lines gets in the way and should be throttled a little more.

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Originally Posted by Kawar

When i am at it i need to ask is there a better way to make gil something like 40k-50k so i have the money just for my level 1-10 gear and weapon? I also was told i messed up the spelled of my last name so wanted to know is there any way to change it or do i need to delete him and remake him i will if i have 2 remake him he is only level 3.

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1. Better than what? You can pick up a gathering class for easy gil. Take the allagan pieces for all your quest rewards. Find stuff on the market boards that's being sold for less than its vendor price. Do leves and/or FATEs. Find stuff you can buy at vendors and sell on the boards for a profit (Y'know, like selling Distilled Water for hundreds apiece on the Jueno AH).
2. Why on earth do you need that much for level 1-10? Stay away from the market board, buy stuff off vendors or get it from quests or just don't bother upgrading anything other than your weapon and offhand (where applicable) because the starting gear is enough up to level 10. You'll want some better gear for dungeons at level 15, but again, vendors.

Edit: Really, early on, it's more about how much you save than how much you make. Look for ways to cut your expenses. Walk when you can stand to. Use Chocobo porters instead of teleports. Check both vendors and the market boards for anything you're thinking about buying; either one might be cheaper depending on what you're after. http://xivdb.com is great for looking up vendor prices and locations. If you've got an FC or LS, it doesn't hurt to check if someone can craft you something for cheap.

3. There's no way to change your name.

one more thing about remaking my Character do i get all the items i get for pre ordering again or is there a way for se to force a name change.I want / need some of the items that come with my codes and do not really want to lose them.are they locked in to one Character or if i delete it i get the chance to get them again?

or is there any way to request a gm to force a name change on my guy so i can change it i just need to move 2 letters around.

Pre-order bonus items and collector's edition bonus items are all account-wide. You'll get them on every character you create. (You can always test it by making a character on another server or something before you delete your current character.)

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Originally Posted by Bixby

When you go to set the price, there is a little page icon in the upper right of that window that shows the sales history for that item.

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Just wanted to add that it's actually two extra pages. The first page icon brings up a list of what's currently being offered at what prices. Then that window has another little page icon at the top that brings up a list of what items have recently sold, when, and at what prices. Both lists are useful in deciding on a reasonable price to list your own items for.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Pre-order bonus items and collector's edition bonus items are all account-wide. You'll get them on every character you create. (You can always test it by making a character on another server or something before you delete your current character.)

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I am going to test it tonight if it dose not work i am going to see if the gms can change the name seeing as as you can see it is just moving at max 3 letters.

also if anyone has tested this before i get on to test it please post here so i can hear what you have to say.

also just a small question do you think the mods mind i am using this topic for every one of my new questions?

thanks for this.

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Originally Posted by Kawar

also if anyone has tested this before i get on to test it please post here so i can hear what you have to say.

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I have 4 characters on my account and they all have the same Moogle mails from SE about veteran rewards, pre-order, CE, etc.

Sorry to ask this question but are the chat Text Commands you guys are talking about have to be done on PS4 version of the game also or is that automatic??? Let say if I wanna chat with everybody in my party I have to first type /p for them to see it? Or have I been doin it wrong :/

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Originally Posted by JamesKelly09

Sorry to ask this question but are the chat Text Commands you guys are talking about have to be done on PS4 version of the game also or is that automatic??? Let say if I wanna chat with everybody in my party I have to first type /p for them to see it? Or have I been doin it wrong :/

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Right. There's the default chat mode (which starts off as /say every time you log on), which you can see in between the text input bar and the chat window, and there's your current chat mode, which is determined by the slash command or shortcut key (e.g., alt+P for party) you use to enter the current line.

If you want to switch default chat modes, type the relevant slash command on a line by itself and hit enter. To change to party chat default, type just /p. From then on (until you change it again or log out), everything you start typing will go to party chat, except for lines that you start with a different slash command or lines that you type after using a chat shortcut key.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

Right. There's the default chat mode (which starts off as /say every time you log on), which you can see in between the text input bar and the chat window, and there's your current chat mode, which is determined by the slash command or shortcut key (e.g., alt+P for party) you use to enter the current line.

If you want to switch default chat modes, type the relevant slash command on a line by itself and hit enter. To change to party chat default, type just /p. From then on (until you change it again or log out), everything you start typing will go to party chat, except for lines that you start with a different slash command or lines that you type after using a chat shortcut key.

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Oh okay thanks for the help was a bit confused on the whole chat system.... But after reading some other Threads and the Text Commands several times I think I get it now.

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Originally Posted by Sagittarian

I have 4 characters on my account and they all have the same Moogle mails from SE about veteran rewards, pre-order, CE, etc.

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You do not know how happy I was when i logged on with the new character and had seen 8 mails sitting there waiting for me i stressed about it all day.seeing as i know so many things in this game are the same as level i was worried that the backend things would be the same as well.

but that brings me to my next question how do i pull up my macros like you can in 11 with just a tap of the control with out having to go to the full list so i can use a macro or how do i set things to be used from macros.I am not sure if macro commands are the same as 11.

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Originally Posted by JamesKelly09

Sorry to ask this question but are the chat Text Commands you guys are talking about have to be done on PS4 version of the game also or is that automatic??? Let say if I wanna chat with everybody in my party I have to first type /p for them to see it? Or have I been doin it wrong :/

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they just copyed 11s system in that respect so it is alt+P for party and alt+r to get to the list of people that have sent you a tell and so then it would be the same alt+l for linkshell but yes you need to hit it more then once if you want to get to later linkshells on the list if you have more then 1 that is.Btw that to be done on ps4 part. The command system is the same on any format of this or 11.some things may be moved around on 14 seeing as i have only played with /tell /linkshell /yell at this point.

I just want to say this silly little thing if you played 11 or really any other mmo that has chat commands you should be fine most of them are the same but how the command gets called is not the same all the time.but for example if you played 11 at all do not read the command list they give you on 14 you know it all ready there i know for a fact are a few new commands but that is all.

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Originally Posted by Kawar

but that brings me to my next question how do i pull up my macros like you can in 11 with just a tap of the control with out having to go to the full list so i can use a macro or how do i set things to be used from macros.I am not sure if macro commands are the same as 11.

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The commands are similar to 11, but there are some significant differences (no /item command, the range of <st> placeholders isn't there, etc.). Full list is here.

To bring up your list of macros, type /macros or bring the window up from the menu (believe it's System > Macros). If you're using keyboard/mouse hotbars, you can just drag each macro from the macro window into a slot on a given hotbar. For the gamepad, you scroll around the macro window with the D-pad, and press square to bring up a mini menu for each macro, which will have a "set to hotbar" option. From there, you set the macro into a hotbar slot just like you do with regular commands. I think it's just a matter of switching to the bar you want it on and pressing the combo for the slot you want, but the little window that pops up on screen tells you exactly what to do.

I was just wondering is there a wiki or a page on bg that explains crafting seeing as i know again in 11 crafting is very hard to explain unless you have tried it all ready.I know from what i hear from people that 14s crafting is not easy to understand any way.Btw i just would like to let everyone know thanks for all the help to this point and even after this is making learning 14 much easier then it took to learn 11.but learn 11 by will this work or wont this work was a lot of fun.

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Originally Posted by Bixby

The commands are similar to 11, but there are some significant differences (no /item command, the range of <st> placeholders isn't there, etc.). Full list is here.

To bring up your list of macros, type /macros or bring the window up from the menu (believe it's System > Macros). If you're using keyboard/mouse hotbars, you can just drag each macro from the macro window into a slot on a given hotbar. For the gamepad, you scroll around the macro window with the D-pad, and press square to bring up a mini menu for each macro, which will have a "set to hotbar" option. From there, you set the macro into a hotbar slot just like you do with regular commands. I think it's just a matter of switching to the bar you want it on and pressing the combo for the slot you want, but the little window that pops up on screen tells you exactly what to do.

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ok i will read the window when it pops up but i hope it is as easy to understand as your post here. :)