i70 vanity gear in new dungeons.

Gonna go ahead and call this a complaint thread straight off the bat. I've been farming the Shikaree set since the start of patch 2.2. Literally doing nothing but running the new dungeons. So far I've gotten enough philo items to equip an army in i70 craftables. Have I seen an Army's worth of Shikaree's Bodies? HELL NO! In fact, I'm pretty sure I've run more of these dungeons where not a single piece of darklight OR new i70 has dropped AT ALL than one's where I've seen darklight/new stuff in any amount. This system sucks. Flat out. Is. Terrible. Boss chests shouldnt be dropping philo materials. Plain and simple. Put the crap in other chests if you really want it to come from these dungeons. But bottom line...it's lame as hell to run a dungeon where out off all the chests....minium....cooking sherry...voidsent blood...nothing else.

And once everyone has all the armor sets they want, they'll be wanting the Philo items to drop. I've seen plenty of WP runs where every piece of gear that drops got passed on. That's going to happen with the new dungeons eventually.

Edit: nvm people will greed them to convert to seals. but if it's seals they're after the philo items give you 2500 worth of seals vs. 800 or so.

yes, i ran the new dungeons for the first time this weekend. it would be nice to not have gear sets and crafting mats competing in the loot list. i mean can thses not go in chest with the potions?

i dont know its kinda lame to beat the end boss of the dungeon and Voila: cooking sherryx3
lol awesome

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/a0e/2bc...-it-458526.jpg

In seriousness, Theres no problem with the drop rate. They aren't specifically vanity sets. They're legitimate i70 gear for players to gear up with. I think the gear needs to drop more often than the crafting mats, but it's fine the way it is.

What's utter nonsense is that the gear isn't even relevant. It's 20 il's behind the entry level raiding gear. You get myth and sold in the dungeons it drops from. So why the nonsense random tables when it's purely for vanity?

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Originally Posted by Mortechai

What's utter nonsense is that the gear isn't even relevant. It's 20 il's behind the entry level raiding gear. You get myth and sold in the dungeons it drops from. So why the nonsense random tables when it's purely for vanity?

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Not relevant for YOU. Relevant for new players and people gearing fresh 50 Jobs.

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Originally Posted by Zaels

Edit: nvm people will greed them to convert to seals. but if it's seals they're after the philo items give you 2500 worth of seals vs. 800 or so.

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Philosophy items can't be turned in, and as such give 0 seals. They cost 2500 seals.

If you're gonna value them because of their value in seals, then I'm going to value darklight more because it vendors for 220 gil instead of 18 like most of the philosophy items. Therefore it would be better for i70 gear to drop from chests right?

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Originally Posted by Mortechai

What's utter nonsense is that the gear isn't even relevant. It's 20 il's behind the entry level raiding gear. You get myth and sold in the dungeons it drops from. So why the nonsense random tables when it's purely for vanity?

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20 ilvl behind? It's equal to entry level raiding gear. You can start coil in full i70. You can completely clear coil in i90, save for maybe T9.

Yeah except you'd be a complete fool to vend something that sells for a couple thousand gil in the market board.

Your gil argument is invalid. Put them up for the cheapest price and they will sell for significantly more than whatever gil you get out of vending DL.

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Originally Posted by MurakumoMillennium

If you're gonna value them because of their value in seals, then I'm going to value darklight more because it vendors for 220 gil instead of 18 like most of the philosophy items. Therefore it would be better for i70 gear to drop from chests right?

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Most philosophy items in the market board - around 3k gil
Darklight items in the market board - 0 gil

As example Coke sell for 3500 gil currently on Ragnarok

I agree with OP! Been farming expert roulette tirelessly since launch of 2.2 for Dragoon chest, and have nothing but filtered water to show for it. Keep the mats in the dungeon chests where potions would usually drop, but there is no reason for boss fights to drop craft materials.

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Originally Posted by Mortechai

What's utter nonsense is that the gear isn't even relevant. It's 20 il's behind the entry level raiding gear. You get myth and sold in the dungeons it drops from. So why the nonsense random tables when it's purely for vanity?

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I don't see any indications that those new gears are purely for vanity.

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Originally Posted by XzaviyrVL

I agree with OP! Been farming expert roulette tirelessly since launch of 2.2 for Dragoon chest, and have nothing but filtered water to show for it. Keep the mats in the dungeon chests where potions would usually drop, but there is no reason for boss fights to drop craft materials.

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My biggest complaint. I on a day of being blessed by the Twelve managed to get the Pilgrim's Robe from my Ampdaor roulette yesterday. Previously Diablos only dropped filtered water. -___-

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Originally Posted by TheUltimate3

My biggest complaint. I on a day of being blessed by the Twelve managed to get the Pilgrim's Robe from my Ampdaor roulette yesterday. Previously Diablos only dropped filtered water. -___-

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Glorious Cooking Sherry! And it's not as if anyone likes Sauteed Coeurl anyway...

Which reminds me, has anyone actually seen Peacock Ore drop from the three new dungeons? I've seen at least one of everything but that, and much like the OP I've been spamming the dungeons since the patch launched for some Shikaree pieces/Tomestones of Mythology towards my Thyrus Atma. ><

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Originally Posted by Raminax

Glorious Cooking Sherry! And it's not as if anyone likes Sauteed Coeurl anyway...

Which reminds me, has anyone actually seen Peacock Ore drop from the three new dungeons? I've seen at least one of everything but that, and much like the OP I've been spamming the dungeons since the patch launched for some Shikaree pieces/Tomestones of Mythology towards my Thyrus Atma. ><

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I seen enough Peacock Ore drop to make...well at least 10 good sized Peacocks!...though so far have only seen 2 body pieces drop and they were both the FistFighters Jacket

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Originally Posted by Raminax

Which reminds me, has anyone actually seen Peacock Ore drop from the three new dungeons?

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I have from Halatali first boss chest.

I agree chests and their loot tables need to be adjusted. Just get rid of the medicine chests and replace them with mats. Remove the mats from the sub-boss and final boss chests.

This is for all the toxotes when AK still mattered. It's just payback.

Here here!!! I've got probably over 100 runs of the new dungeons done and still haven't seen shikarees doublet drop. I've got every single piece of the set including the non visible belt and the helm that I don't want but still no chest. Remove the crafting mats SE.

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Originally Posted by ReplicaX

I have from Halatali first boss chest.

I agree chests and their loot tables need to be adjusted. Just get rid of the medicine chests and replace them with mats. Remove the mats from the sub-boss and final boss chests.

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^Agree with this 100%

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Originally Posted by Mortechai

Gonna go ahead and call this a complaint thread straight off the bat. I've been farming the Shikaree set since the start of patch 2.2. Literally doing nothing but running the new dungeons. .

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Just keep trying. I got the body on my first run.

I do get where you are coming from. It can be cringe worthy to finish the last boss and have a coke drop. I think they should make it where the final boss for sure drops some type of gear.

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Originally Posted by Jaykos

Here here!!! I've got probably over 100 runs of the new dungeons done and still haven't seen shikarees doublet drop. I've got every single piece of the set including the non visible belt and the helm that I don't want but still no chest. Remove the crafting mats SE.

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How would this help you? You would maybe just get more belts.

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Originally Posted by Zaels

Edit: nvm people will greed them to convert to seals. but if it's seals they're after the philo items give you 2500 worth of seals vs. 800 or so.

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Philo mats are useless if you want the seals to buy anything other than philo mats - like ventures.

@OP: I agree completely. Keep the philo mats to the side chests and let the boss chests drop gear and nothing but (or gear + a chance at a philo mat, but not either/or).

I just lmao when I got two voidsent blood side by side in a chest in Brayflox Hard. Rng ftw. Also was there any proof that the sets are split between the dungeons? I'm only running BH because its fast and I only seem to see the head and chest of the protector set.

Protector head should come from second boss and the chest from the last. You know there wouldn't be like 4 complaint threads so far about the loot in the new dungeons if the loot tables were set up properly. Im not sure if getting the set is supposed to be a 6 month grind affair. Its not this impossible to get the foe strikers/battlemage/infantry/etc set just a little bit of time and determination but this is beyond ridiculous .

I believe chests are dropped at final bosses only (especially lost city). Doing so many speed runs its hard to believe the entire table is shared. I have gotten the entire Shikaree and other sets from Brayflox though. Just short of chest pieces.

The dungeons RNG bothers me a lot more than the atma RNG to be honest lol. I see more philo items than actual gear pieces :( I want new pretty gear~

46 runs of halatali hard sind 2.2 and I havent seen fistfighters breeches not a single time. Do they even exist? are hey even worth the trouble? idk but i made about 500k gil thx to trade in for seals and potash/animal fat/coke so i got that going for me which is nice.

If anyone has ever seen the fistfighters breeches to prove they actually exist, I would appreciate it...

Finally seeing progress.. saw the tank chest twice in Braflox, as well as the Hussars breeches. Gonna keep my fingers crossed for Hussar's chest!

I'm glad I found this thread, because I was just thinking about creating one.

I'm very frustrated with the loot tables in these dungeons. While I love all three dungeons (they're all really fun), I'm so annoyed with these crafting materials all over the place, especially from the last boss.

I've gotten a few pieces I'm looking for, but in probably 70+ runs of the three dungeons, I have not seen Shikaree's doublet or gloves or the Pilgrim robe drop one single time. Not that I want them, but I also haven't seen the Pilgrim or Shikaree headpiece either.

I just want to pick what I want out of the chest! RNG will always be in MMOs. I like the new chests, those rarer mats sell pretty well. Sure, it sucks when the bad mats drop, but its great when something rare drops. Maybe I just like the element of chance. Would you rather they go back to AK/WP loot tables where 99% of the gear hits the floor or is never used? In a few months that is how it will be with these, most everyone will have everything they want and will be begging for the crafting mats. I wish they made it where we could sell the equipment, but we'll then just replace RNGophobia with RMTophobia.