Does anyone else miss peaple asking you for help?

I have been playing this game since beta phase 3 everyday and have literally only received one tell very briefly asking me "What am I doing". That was the only tell I had ever received in what 9 months now...

I have never turned /anon on so everyone can see my stuff in the search. I even have had "Titan HM Please assist, do you need any help" in my coment box for about a month now, still no tell.

The only thing I have ever seen asked in the area chat would be "revive please at location" or Join fate/atma party. Other than that no one needs anything.

In my ffxi days, you never new who you would run into. Some days people would even need me and send me a tell ingame. EX. one time I changed to bard and 5 minutes later I got a random tell to join a blm burn party.

I really miss the days were I would get a random tell from someone asking for my assistance. Maybe if I put "Do you need any help" in my search comment box, someone might ask then...

Anyone else have this issue, where no one seems to need your help anymore?

i dont wait people ask for help
i sometimes look at someone search info like what class they got and what equipment they wear now
then i give advice and teach them one or two thing

also i help some random guy finish fate since he/she solo it when i run around do my thing
i even leave my leve sometimes just help he/she finish quest from fate

No, I can't say i miss being begged to run people through easy/low level content.

(Referring to other MMOs there)

It's actually quite refreshing to not be bothered by hundreds of randoms via tells demanding that i should help them because i have good gear.
I'll help people who ask for Relic Primals, but mostly because I like those fights. Except when they put up an ilvl restriction beyond what my Relic PLD/WAR/MNK/SCH has, like the guy who demanded an ilvl80 Tank for Titan HM. Heh.

I see your point. I haven't really thought about it, but I sure wouldn't mind people asking for help. I have helped out a few people who didn't ask for it, and made friends that way. :) Mainly crafting gear for people; like this one guy, I was queuing for my first Ifrit HM and this guy was standing next to me, wanting to do the same primal. I checked his gear and noticed his iLvl was too low to get entrance to the fight. Me being a crafter, I offered to make him gear with high enough iLlvl to get in, and I told him he didn't have to pay for it. (I had plenty of mats lying around, anyway). He payed me quite well anyway, and then we went ahead and did Ifrit HM together. ;) Still on my friend's list.

Sometime if I see someone maybe fighting too many mobs in open world, I'll help them out of a bind. On the flip side, I was fate grinding for ATMA the other day, and a WM started healing me, not even in my party. That was huge to me cause as we all know, they don't get credit for heals. Never did a search on anyone before to see if they needed help.

I does! I love helping folks out of shout needs. Especially running dungeons :)

While on my whm in a main city yesterday I was asked if I could help out with a guild heist. I hadn't unlocked that one yet so I politely declined and told who asked if they ever needed anything I could help with I would be happy to lend a hand. The person asking thanked me for being so polite saying they wished the other healers they asked would have responded in such a way. I'm sure there's tonnes of people needing help, they're just too afraid to ask because of those jerks who decide even askin then for help is a waste of their time. Search comments and random shouts if you're feeling up to it will let people know you're willing to help. Makes me sad people have become afraid to ask for help :/

On Balmung its quite common in the shouts in Mor Dhona, saw it atleast 3 times yesterday.

You Sir, are a ray of hope to us lower levels looking for help, Whilst most High Level users are Farming ATMA for better weapons (Of which I don't blame them) us lower levels are finding it more difficult to find assistance, couple that with the need to keep "Tell" off due to the relentless RMT Adverts it looks as though it will be a long time before I personally make it to something like Garuda Extreme, if my rate of progress doesn't change soon I'm looking at Mid 2015. Most FC's just want people who can run end game stuff, even though they'll advertise they help lower levels, again, you cant blame them, they want an FC house.
If SE were to create a 2 tier service where, say anyone on, or above level 60 has to play on a level 60+ server (unless they want to help people under level 60) and anyone under level 60 would play on an under level 60 server, I think that would encourage more of the lower level players to ask people like yourself for help.

People still ask me for help almost daily, I oblidge where I can.

Some of the people I've helped whether they were level 5 or 50 came back and thanked me or met me in a party and recalled my name from months ago (even if my memory fails me on who they were).
A few who I taught their basic rotations said without that little bit of help they'd have never bothered trying The Binding Coil of Bahamut originally.


There's tons of people looking for help, sometimes they'll ask, sometimes they won't.


Sadly 2.0's community isn't anywhere near as small as 1.23 where if your reputation would a bad (or good) one it'd ripple to and fro across the server.
(From experience in 1.23 showing you could help with a nice attitude made for a better experience all over, in 2.0 it's less-so.)


*All of this isn't to say I'm a "I love everyone, happy trooper, life is great"

I'm an absolute a*****e too there's plenty who can testify to that. (I've found 2.0 has brought more the A-hole out in people than the good they had in 1.23)

I run an entire FC full of players who ask for and need help on a daily basis. Once they stop asking for help and figure out how to do stuff on their own... I recruit 10 more noobies and the whole thing starts over again. Surround yourself with new players and you'll have plenty of work to do.

Yeah, I know what you meant OP.

I used to go to Valkurm dunes with my BLM and help new players, raise, escort them to the crags, help people to reach Jeuno, etc. It made the world feel more alive and created a better sense of community. With everything being instance, no penalty for dead and the world being essentially baby-proof all these things come to miss.

I don't like getting constantly harassed over PMs for help or advice that 90% of the time is usually explained in game, though this isn't so much a problem in FFXIV as it was in other MMOs I played.

I don't mind giving some advice here and there or directing people to a place they're looking for, but when you've been harassed constantly by the most inane questions followed by "can u party me and take me thru dis quest", you can't help but cringe when you get asked for help anymore in games. I'm actually thankful not many people PM me asking questions or asking for help in FFXIV, it feels like a breath of fresh air. However, the few times I have been asked simple questions, I haven't minded responding to them. And I've helped out for map parties before when asked. I help out my FC as much as I can as well, since they're basically my in-game family.

But I just prefer not to be bothered constantly by the same question repeated 50 times or people asking me to run them through things just because I have a zenith weapon.

During my first relic quest my FC used the PF to find more people to do Titan HM and all the sudden a lot of ilvl80-90 players appeared saying "don't need it, i'm just here to help", i gotta admit i never expected to see this kinda of people after so many bad experiences i had while leveling to 50 with the Duty Finder.

I miss it a bit too. Mind you, I'm not high level, so other than raising people, I probably can't help much... I do miss all the shouts of people dying and asking to be raised though like there was in the end of the beta/early access, etc. I'm not sure why; I just found it fun to zip around and get people back on their feet. :p It was nice when other people did it for me, too. Maybe those people are just quiet now. It's true that the louder half of the community can be quite abrasive nowadays.

I'll still stop on my way and just throw a few heals here and there if I notice someone struggling with something. I don't even want a thank you; it's just fun and the whole idea of being a conjurer, in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by TenkoRoquette

I'll still stop on my way and just throw a few heals here and there if I notice someone struggling with something. I don't even want a thank you; it's just fun and the whole idea of being a conjurer, in my opinion.

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This. Whenever I'm a WHM or SCH I just run around randomly throwing Stoneskin on people. Also if I see someone swarmed by mobs, soloing a fate etc. I'll pop in and help them because...well, just because. Ionno. It's an MMO right, aren't we supposed to be interactive?

I miss open world areas that were dangerous enough to actually require help. /ffxi

Seems like there's always someone in my FC asking for help with something, so I have plenty of opportunities to help folks out when I can. I also enjoy helping random strangers who may be overrun with mobs, or need a raise, or are trying to solo a fate and are struggling. Funny enough, when I was farming for an Atma the other day, I had been doing that area for maybe three hours. I finally decided I had hit my wall and needed a break when I saw someone trying to finish a fate that requires turn-in items but they couldn't as they kept getting attacked by mobs. I stopped, healed them up and got the mobs off of them so they could finish the fate, and don't you know it, my Atma dropped for me. xD Win/win!

Reason people don't ask for raises much anymore is

1. They can just tele back instantly np
2. Don't loose any xp and repairs are dirt cheap.

FFXI on the other hand, you could actually dlvl. If you got a raise it would restore a certain percentage of lost xp. XP didn't come that fast in ffxi. Also it was no were near as eazy to return to were you died in ffxi.

Just one of the many reason ffxi's community seemed much more alive to me than ffxiv arr's does.

PS. I do see shouts all the time in mor dah on my server, but it just isn't the same :(

I also miss this but the reason why:
1. No death penalty
2. No meaningful challenge between 1 to 49, everyone can solo. No valkurm dunes bogy to kill to save the day.
3. No open world NM or challenge
4. No open world dungeon that required high level to help clear obstacles to get to camp.
5. AF1 is so easy, no coffer keys needed.
6. No one needs kazham keys or similar concept.
7. Everyone can teleport, no one needs WHM to teleport holla.
8. Existence of duty finder.
9. MMO players' experiences have matured with many MMOs under their belt , so they are familiar w basic mechanics than in 2004.
10. Widespread walkthru guides on Youtube compared than in 2004.

Basically, reduced ways for high level to be heroic.

I'll share the first heroic thing I witnessed in FFXI, was when Bogy was camped at the zone to Selbina in Dunes, and killed nearly anyone who walked in and out. Tons of corpses. Finally, a lvl 40 WHM showed up, and even for him, took 10 minutes to kill the Bogy. That was my inspiration to become WHM, and promised when I'm 75, I'd return to help, and I did.
I patrolled around at night in Dunes / Qufim to help low level players.

/shout /t and other random encounters seem to be dead in this game. Think it stems from the modern design of 1-50 is pretty much solo or spam random duty then use party finder. No emphasis on a real community atmosphere at all. Hell even the scripted vomit of Barren's chat would be a welcome change of pace at this point. It just makes the game feel so empty. Even taking into account FC and LS chat, it just seem like there is no one else really out there... if that makes any sense =/

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Originally Posted by Diadumenos

/shout /t and other random encounters seem to be dead in this game. Think it stems from the modern design of 1-50 is pretty much solo or spam random duty then use party finder. No emphasis on a real community atmosphere at all. Hell even the scripted vomit of Barren's chat would be a welcome change of pace at this point. It just makes the game feel so empty. Even taking into account FC and LS chat, it just seem like there is no one else really out there... if that makes any sense =/

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Agreed. The solo designed killed any interaction from 1-49. People may not like the forced-party design of FFXI, I also did not like it. However, thinking about it, it probably what made the great community in FFXI. Since everyone had to be nice to each other, knowing tomorrow, they will party with the same people, so you had to keep up your reputation. In ARR, 1-49, there are no consequences, no thought, and no soul.

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Originally Posted by Diadumenos

/shout /t and other random encounters seem to be dead in this game. Think it stems from the modern design of 1-50 is pretty much solo or spam random duty then use party finder. No emphasis on a real community atmosphere at all. Hell even the scripted vomit of Barren's chat would be a welcome change of pace at this point. It just makes the game feel so empty. Even taking into account FC and LS chat, it just seem like there is no one else really out there... if that makes any sense =/

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I feel the same way with my FC. No one ever uses the /fc chat. My once fc of around 156 members, did a recent cleanup and now down to 77 members. Only around 25 have actually loged in within the past 8 days. Only ever see around 10 people on during prime time. Used to have like 4 squads going, but the last remaning squad took a break aswell.

Literally 80% of the time that i'm on for 4 hours an afternoon, I'm the only one that ever puts something in our chat box..

The chat box is really hard to read, so I'm sure that hurts it to.