Do you really think it's fun?

Dear SE,
do you really think that we're enjoining the whole atma system? Do you really think it's fun this brainless farming and the horrible wait times for the book's fates?
Do you really know your players?
I won't write again about the mistake of the atma farming concept (not only the spawn rate, but just the concept, the "be lucky to win" philosophy) or the fail of the coerthas fates, 'cause we have tons of thread alike.
I yust want to appeal to your intelligence, to the capacity you already proved to make your games better, to correct your mistakes. Cause THIS is a mistake. When a game is not fun anymore, when it becomes frustrating and... oh well... a little sad... it's a mistake.
It's a very naiv mistake, but it's a mistake. So pls, don't let us players down. Give us the opportunity to stand by your side, standing by ours.

I agree, and do not add more

it's not fun. Honestly I find it so frustrating… there is no sense in doing this quest. And SE seems not to care about.

They need to fix this and soon tactics like these will lose them subs. This is massively bad Skinnerbox abuse.

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Originally Posted by Orson_Dara

They need to fix this and soon tactics like these will lose them subs. This is massively bad Skinnerbox abuse.

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Exactly. I started my 1st book today and I decided to start with the FATEs. The very 1st one I went to (Giant Seps) took 3 hours to pop and the mob got destroyed in 20 secs due to all the people there. I got a Silver medal thus no credit for it. Now It's been another 2 hours and it didnt spawn yet... I gotta do that for 8 more books? No thanks, no fun at all there.

its meaningless if you think that we just got the second big update on the game and it feels like our hands are full already and WILL be full until 2.3. I bet around 15-20% of players have got their atma, about 60% are still working on it and 20% have given up already which is a lot.
I just can't take it that i have to spend 10 hours of my day in farming and doing the same stuff all over again. I've never spent that much time in any game at all!! I prefer playing for 3-4 hours doing roulettes and other stuff which simply are more FUN...
I am so curious to see the next relic upgrade and how much time consuming it will be since now we are talking about hours of gameplay already.

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Originally Posted by TallonOverworld

its meaningless if you think that we just got the second big update on the game and it feels like our hands are full already and WILL be full until 2.3. I bet around 15-20% of players have got their atma, about 60% are still working on it and 20% have given up already which is a lot.
I just can't take it that i have to spend 10 hours of my day in farming and doing the same stuff all over again. I've never spent that much time in any game at all!! I prefer playing for 3-4 hours doing roulettes and other stuff which simply are more FUN...
I am so curious to see the next relic upgrade and how much time consuming it will be since now we are talking about hours of gameplay already.

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If they turn out better than High Allagan Weapons, they would have to be that much of a pain to get.

The only upside to all of this is that there are options out the gate other than relic.

/point Leviathan Weapons / T8 + Tokens.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

The only upside to all of this is that there are options out the gate other than relic.

/point Leviathan Weapons / T8 + Tokens.

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Those aren't the Relic weapon, which is a cornerstone of character development and will have continuous upgrades throughout the life of the game. Those other weapons are a stopgap at best, something to use while you work on the Relic upgrade quests.

Bad time to frustrate fans...ESO coming out and all, going to get a lot of cancelled subscriptions methinks...in fact I've thought about it.

I'm not saying give me instant gratification, but hell, I now absolutely hate FATEs...so thanks SE.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

Those aren't the Relic weapon, which is a cornerstone of character development and will have continuous upgrades throughout the life of the game. Those other weapons are a stopgap at best, something to use while you work on the Relic upgrade quests.

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This right here is very important. These weapons are going to be growing with us, this part of the quest will always be a wall for people to run into. They could change it now for the better so it has longevity and is fun, or they can nerf it come 2.3 so players don't simply quit when they cannot partake in the next line of Relic progression due to this.

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Originally Posted by HolyNate

Bad time to frustrate fans...ESO coming out and all, going to get a lot of cancelled subscriptions methinks...in fact I've thought about it.

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ESO, Warlords of Draenor, Archage, Wildstar, GW 2's major updates coming, etc. This is a bad time for lazy content updates especially on such an important quest line.

Honestly,
the relic has no storyline, no plot. Nothing at all. Just hours of farming without a meaning. This is not something i would have expected from SE. A relic weapon should be an important part of the story of your character, something you are fighting for and something your are proud to have. But just farming does not mean that you end the quest with a prize, it´s just frustrating and the complete game is affected by all this.
I come back from work with the duty of farming and farming and farming all the same fates with almost 0% chance do get Atma. This is not really helping in motivating the people in doing it and, as i said before, this is a big lack on the plot of the complete storyline and game.

I wouldn't be surprised if people resorted to using bots so they don't have to do the farming themselves.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

Those aren't the Relic weapon, which is a cornerstone of character development and will have continuous upgrades throughout the life of the game. Those other weapons are a stopgap at best, something to use while you work on the Relic upgrade quests.

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As opposed to before where your only option was Relic and Titan Hardmode still eluded most of everyone.

You -have options-.

As opposed to before where you had -no options-.

It is an upside, however slight.