With all the whining and moaning I have seen on the forums concerning ATMA, as well as other things, that the world of gamers has taken a downward slope.
It seems no matter what SE (or most companies) does to this game, people bitch, oh wait!!!! I just realized that is what humans do now days, they simply bitch about everything!
Just thought I'd join in and bitch about those bitching :cool:
Seriously though, to all those that aren't whining and crying about everything, KUDOS!
Hope you are enjoying FF14 as much as I am, all of it!
I've realized....
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04-03-2014, 09:42 PMEmptyFibersI've realized....
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04-04-2014, 12:24 AMEekiki
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04-04-2014, 12:42 AMSwishytail
This is just society as a whole anymore. I've noticed both in game, and out of game, that the human race is becoming
this "I want it easy, fast, and now" type. Self-entitlement is absolutely out of control. Me me me me me.
It's incredible that when one thing goes wrong, these forums turn into "28 Days Later" level rage. -
04-04-2014, 12:43 AMSendohJinthe actual downward slope is a game developer trying to pass off pre-existing Level Capped FATEs for Lv 50 players as entertaining content.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptyFibers
a sign of a downward slope for gamers is that some of them are actually okay with it. -
04-04-2014, 12:43 AMTeaTimeBearGet back to the drawing board. You haven't had an epiphany yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptyFibers
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04-04-2014, 12:45 AMSlayer25c
People will always bitch if it is something they don't like or don't want to do. That is the world we live in today.
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04-04-2014, 12:53 AMmicropanther7Yes, it does feel that way sometimes, though most people wouldn't behave half so badly if it was in a real-life situation (as someone succinctly put it, keyboard + person = idiot). Really, haven't any of 'em heard you catch more flies with honey than vinegar? ;) Even when the complaints are valid in some cases, being insulting and having a temper tantrum is hardly going to achieve a positive response.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swishytail
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04-04-2014, 12:55 AMCodeCass
Personally, I love the game. I'm sad that so many people seem to want to complain about it. I will say this though; for all the complaints here on the forums, the nice folks over on Adamantoise have made this game both fun and enjoyable to me. Looking forward to many months of continued play for myself and the members of my FC!
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04-04-2014, 12:55 AMGormogon
1st world problems.
I kid but seriously whiners will whine. I know a human may have done it but it doesn't mean every human ever will share the exact same mentality of why someone is whining. -
04-04-2014, 01:08 AMLord_Zlatan
I can say that in my profession (I work with kids 11-14yo) its only going to get worse. Try as I might to instill values of hard work, dedication, mutual respect, and risk taking, some just want me to "give" them a grade... they "deserve" x,y,z... with no work to show for it.
With that said, I do see a common complaint about the Atma farm, and the game as a whole. Some people don't like fates (i do). Some more people also don't want to have to do "pre-existing Level Capped FATEs for Lv 50 players". as much as I love the game, that is CERTAINLY a valid complaint. At LEAST they could have made new FATEs, let alone new fates with mechanics, new mob types, group requirements (things that would offset the monotony, if not the luck based rng system {which I am ok with}). -
04-04-2014, 01:11 AMRygaenYuuiIt's called MMOJRPG. You don't have to be okay with it. You don't even have to grind it if you choose not to, but this is a typical mechanic in these kinds of games. It was only a matter of time before it popped up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
You can wait until other patches come out and gear becomes obsolete if you like; It's going to be funny when they introduce some kind of XI intense content for hardcore endgamers. Might never hear the end of it afterwards. -
04-04-2014, 01:15 AMKazamoto
Nooo its a MMOFCGG..
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04-04-2014, 01:16 AMSendohJinwhat other MMO has people grind level capped content? XI had lots of grind but all the level capped stuff was basically one and done. you can kind of farm level capped BCNMs but that wasn't really a grind, the grind was for Seals to pop the fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by RygaenYuui
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04-04-2014, 01:22 AMDjeseritFTFYQuote:
Originally Posted by Slayer25c
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04-04-2014, 01:24 AMEmptyFibersSo we expect developers to deliver new and fresh content every 3 months? Hell of a game that would be. I find it funny though, all games follow the current trends and slowly change. Yet, gamers still moan about everything. I get it, stale is stale, and I do find somethings in FF14 I dislike. But you know what, I just pass that stuff by.Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
^ this, lmao. "Realized" does not equate to epiphany, besides, I am just stating the simple fact that it seems to be a whining forum more than anything else. How many positives do we see on here? Yet, all these folks keep on playing...Quote:
Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear
Anyhow, back to whining, gotta grind for something in some dungeons :mad::p;) -
04-04-2014, 01:27 AMLord_Zlatanso...?Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
As I said in a previous post, your point is 100% valid (why have level 50s questing for the ultimate weapon fight dodos in an area designed for level 15 players, while further NW in the zone, there is a beast tribe lying in wait that could easily be used for this type of quest).
They missed an opportunity to really capitalize on getting people in the open world. they could have made ALL boss fates in these zones level 50 and what would happen would be A) low level players would have to actually be afraid in the open world, and B) let me play as a level 50 while i quest for a level 100 weapon.
This could have further been better implemented by adding new mobs... the quest itself says "souls of the fallen beasts" or some such... why not pop a "(MOB NAME) Soul NM" after a fate is cleared? low level players need to GTFO, atma grinders stick around for the "real" fate. perhaps both fates have a %chance of dropping an atma, but the "real" fate would have a significantly higher percent chance.
I dunno, I guess it all comes down to this: personally, I am going to do it anyway. Will I be thrilled the entire time? no. could it have been implemented better? absolutely! Do all players have to be onboard or ok with it? no way. -
04-04-2014, 01:29 AMLord_Zlatan
also, the reason I highlighted the seals bit is because essentially you could farm any beast men (fate) at 75 (50) to get a seal (atma). Farming the beast men while not the goal, was the means to the end. same thing going on here.
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04-04-2014, 01:29 AMTeaTimeBear
A sudden realization doesn't mean an epiphany? Please. You can't always just "pass stuff by" if there are ways to make things better why not improve it?
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04-04-2014, 01:31 AMMoheeheekoIts funny because he seems to think korea doesnt exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by SendohJin
to name one example, getting a hot heart of magic in Aion to get the top tier chestpiece had you get 100 items that had about a 10% drop rate, and then you had to craft it into a hot heart of magic, which took a max level craft, which took assloads of grinding or money. Oh and THEN you had to hope your craft crit, with no gear or stats to make that happen more often. People took MONTHS to get this one item.
This is also a game where the bosses only had about at 20% chance to drop loot AT ALL, much less the item you wanted. -
04-04-2014, 01:31 AMSendohJinuh yes, we pay for that and we have been getting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by EmptyFibers
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04-04-2014, 01:33 AMSendohJinwhich of those steps is level capped?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moheeheeko
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04-04-2014, 01:44 AMPangtao
What i dont understand is how someone can whine about a game so much AND still pay the monthly subscription?
I played WoW a few times, didnt care for it, stopped paying and left. so simple. -
04-04-2014, 01:57 AMTeaTimeBearThe wording they choose is questionable but it is quite clear, the ones who "whine" but are still here see potential and deep down hold love for the game .Quote:
Originally Posted by Pangtao