heroes of the 2nd

does anyone know where this fate pops in southern thanalan?
ty for your help

X:21 Y:16

I have been waiting 3 hours and it hasn't popped.

Here go my fellow people looking for this fate, I'm starting to think the area is wrong...

here is a link to where it pops, but I've been here over a hour and no pop yet
http://xivdb.com/?fate/424/Heroes-of-the-2nd

Same for me, taking forever to spawn, i have seen it before on the bridge though, i guess its just rare

I have seen this Fate before. For the record, a community staff member stated only a number of fates can be up in each zone. If you want it to spawn faster, make sure you clear out some others. I have tried this myself, it does work. Sitting for hours, cleared out some other fates and the rare one spawned.

I read the post about a max number of FATEs per zone also. I've also seen 8 FATEs active simultaneously in Southern Thanalan. So unless the map is divided into smaller fate areas (ie: Broken Water, Zan'rak and the Sagolii Desert) it's likely that some some FATEs really are just on 2-2.5 hour respawns. I'm pretty sure this one, Giant Seps, and Enmity of my Enemy fall under those categories.

On observation of coerthas, outer ll and S than. The fates appear to be on an hourly replenish cycle with certain ones given priority, though not guaranty that they will occur with greater priority. These priorities appear to be based on difficulty intended (not level). Lower difficulty fates also have a higher replenish amount. Exceptions to this are the beastmen item fates which appear to be on separate 15 minute replenish cycles.

Observations leading to above
Outer ll
Long periods of no fates other than the 3 beastman drop one near the end of the hour during high clear times. 50 non beastmen fates cleared in the hour followed by no fates for time remaining till the turn over 4 consecutive hours.
Quantity of individual fates were the same in that same sample period, the placement of occurrence in the fate order varied only slightly.
S Than
Applied formed theory above to this zone and received similarly supporting data sets over 3 hour periods on 3 separate days.
Coerthas (needs more data sets)
3hour sample
Fates: bellyfull, 4 winds, giant seps, eyes have it, saints wake, various trash fates.
No named region on the map had more than 1 occurrence of this level fate at the same time. Ie 4 winds and bellyfull we're never up together, 4 winds or bellyfull and eyes or seps were up simultaneously on all 3 hours. Saints wake initiated halfway through or after the completion of eyes or seps (whichever happened first) all 3 hours leading me to believe that is the top edge of the lower region.

Off topic, but just wanted to give the highest of props to the OP for his awesome name! Brother has the same name on Adamantoise. Glad to see there are others out there reading Legend of Drizzt :P

2h until poped :/

This is completely ridiculous. I have waited 2 hours and 16 minutes for this FATE to pop. And all this FATE was 3x10 amaljaa archer came and thats it. There was a WHM who completely destroyed each group with 2 holys. It literally didnt take 2 minutes!!!!

I cannot comprehend what makes this FATE so rare, it did not contain any challenge. I dont understand why SE has sinked to this low level, but this is outrageous. I hope whoever found this out will rot in hell for eternity.

Waited for around 50 seconds, and it popped. :3 - Swift and easy.

3 hours and counting. I hate FATE requirements.

Heroes of the 2nd spawns just off the bridge, around x21, y17. There is an NPC you need to talk to, to initiate the FATE. I think the NPCs don't show up on the minimap if you're not close to them, when it spawned for me I camped over the bridge waiting for the NPC to rock up, then started the FATE.

I also waited an hour for the spawn, but maybe this info can help some people.

Very annoying having to wait for a fate to spawn.

Ok 4 hours and waiting, this is absolutely ridiculous, I am not one complain but this needs to be fixed. Got a lot of time mandervilling but still, stupid.

Fates as End Game.... lol.

This is starting to make me mad. I'm on day 3 and been about 2 hours each day before I have to just quit playing the game out of pure boredom. If only I could complete this one fate so I can continue on.

Please stop making rare spawn fates requirements.

I really don't understand all the complaining. No one said you had to get an Atma weapon. If you don't like the requirements - don't do it.

Fate spawn - 13 minutes left - One Bard knocked it out solo before i could get from Ala Mhigo to the Fate. That is super quick for a fate that takes up to four hours of spawn.

Not Asking for fates for the books to be easy. Just freaking cut the wait times! This Fate is ridiculous. One person can knock it out in under two minutes which screws everyone else for up to four hours if it spawns at all. Though this is the first fate I have had to wait such a long period for a fate.

Edit. Showed up as soon as i posted. Complete

For myself TBH, camping the FATE pop for 4+hrs is much much eaiser than my bad luck ATMA grinding...^^;
By the way, a few FATE just not too easy to clear sololy.

Until you realize you need 27 of them eventually, and most are pretty difficult to solo (at least you still get credit if you die and did enough)

2nd is pretty damn rare though, though I still end up standing around for an hour or so even for the "common" FATEs.

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Originally Posted by Jeykama

..and most are pretty difficult to solo (at least you still get credit if you die and did enough)...

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I tho those difficult to solo FATE usually got to kill a boss, is it possible to get the credit for the book in case the boss has not been defeated?
I mean when soloing, if you died usually means the boss is not died ^^;

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

I tho those difficult to solo FATE usually got to kill a boss, is it possible to get the credit for the book in case the boss has not been defeated?
I mean when soloing, if you died usually means the boss is not died ^^;

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Still gotta win. I got lucky with the King FATE in W.Noscea since after holding out solo for a good 8 minutes or someone finally dropped by to help. As a bard with a useless tank'bo though, not much hope. And sitting around waiting for a FATE you have no hope to solo? really sucks.

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Originally Posted by Nicobo

For myself TBH, camping the FATE pop for 4+hrs is much much eaiser than my bad luck ATMA grinding...^^;
By the way, a few FATE just not too easy to clear sololy.

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can't agree more, at least I can switch of the BGM, and return to the game once I heard there are sounds of battle coming out

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Originally Posted by Memento

I really don't understand all the complaining. No one said you had to get an Atma weapon. If you don't like the requirements - don't do it.

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Typical response lol can u think of anything else to say. Yes not required but nice to do if u don't have endless hours of wiping in your time shed for coil to get the current best weapon...... i didn't mind atma's but at this point im 8 hours in and haven't seen the fate yet and i have tried everything to killing fates in the zone to all the mobs around the bridge this is a load of crap.