GREAT IDEA!!!

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03-29-2014, 01:30 PM
Alazier

GREAT IDEA!!!

Hey guys lets make all of our new players feel welcome by sending in all of our servers geared out maxed lvl 50s into there little level 10 zones to zerg and kill everything in their fates before the new players can even touch them!!. Yea that will bring in TONS of new players.
03-29-2014, 01:36 PM
MithrasInvictus

There are only 9 FATES that drop the Atma items, are there not? Hardly game-breaking, but that's just one man's opinion.
03-29-2014, 01:36 PM
BamDeafPie

And yet SE believed it help new players which make me cringe and feel sorry for new players.
03-29-2014, 01:37 PM
Alazier

Because everyone knows thats exactly what you want to see when logging into a new game. Everyone way more geared and a much higher level swarming enemies and killing them before you get a chance.

Arent we suppose to encourage new players to continue to play? Wheres the fun in everything dying to maxed out veteran players?
03-29-2014, 01:38 PM
Alazier

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithrasInvictus

There are only 9 FATES that drop the Atma items, are there not? Hardly game-breaking, but that's just one man's opinion.

Have you not seen the swarms of players zerging fates over and over?
03-29-2014, 01:51 PM
seraseth

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithrasInvictus

There are only 9 FATES that drop the Atma items, are there not? Hardly game-breaking, but that's just one man's opinion.

It's any fate in the 12 zones.
03-29-2014, 03:37 PM
Alazier

Are the concerns of our future player base not important?
03-29-2014, 03:47 PM
Cons

So this is the new tactic to get SE to make the new relic upgrade easier to obtain?

Unless new people are complaining about it on the forums, I dont think its a real concern.

New players have quests all over the place that they can do, seasonal events have us swarming the low level areas also, I dont see the issue.

Patch up 2 days = gazillion complaints
03-29-2014, 06:50 PM
WellFooled

I don't see how this is a bad thing.

When the game was first released there were hordes of people doing every FATE and I don't remember any problems, the veteran players are level synced so they aren't any more powerful than the FATE allow, new players have many other sources of exp so even if they struggle to participate in FATES they're not missing out, and on top of that I think its more encouraging to new players to see a busy world than to see an empty one.
03-30-2014, 04:58 AM
Alazier

Now look i dont normaly complain but if you imagine the next mmo you try out you see maxed out geared players massacreing all the low levels in your area.. you would think they are trolls.. what must new players think when they see this without knowing the reason behind it?

Id see it as a turn off.. but thats just me and this is my last input on the matter
03-30-2014, 05:03 AM
Judge_Xero

Level Sync?
03-31-2014, 01:00 AM
kristerrr86

lol last nigth i was running fates for atma, there was a lvl 4 player there :P he was like WTF???? :P
03-31-2014, 01:26 AM
Mrbojangals

As a new player once, I'd rather see to many players in a zone or fate than solo one for 15 minutes and eventually fail.
03-31-2014, 04:22 AM
Baratheus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mrbojangals

As a new player once, I'd rather see to many players in a zone or fate than solo one for 15 minutes and eventually fail.

Except if you're a newbie, you are not going to contribute as much damage to the fate as the atma-hungry swarm that's devouring everything in 2-3 minutes tops.

Maybe in a single-target or collection FATE, but you get my point.
03-31-2014, 04:29 AM
Judge_Xero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baratheus

Except if you're a newbie, you are not going to contribute as much damage to the fate as the atma-hungry swarm that's devouring everything in 2-3 minutes tops.

Maybe in a single-target or collection FATE, but you get my point.

Doesn't really matter. 3k exp in 2 minutes is better than 3.5k in 8.
03-31-2014, 05:11 AM
Raestloz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baratheus

Except if you're a newbie, you are not going to contribute as much damage to the fate as the atma-hungry swarm that's devouring everything in 2-3 minutes tops.

Maybe in a single-target or collection FATE, but you get my point.

Dynamic FATE adjustment. If more people joined the FATE last time, next one will be tougher. And vice versa.

Although I ado agree that they still made a very short job of just about any FATE there
04-01-2014, 03:27 AM
Zythrone

The rush will die down at some point leaving only the new level 50s and the ones who didn't do it when it came out.

This is when it will be beneficial to new players.
04-01-2014, 04:33 AM
Sunaela

I don't see it as an issue. For one, you can always invite low level players to a fate party (who says they need to be excluded since players come and go constantly once they get their Atma). If low level players are curious, all they have to do is ask a high level player why a bunch of level 50's are doing low level fates, and they will gain knowledge that when they hit 50 they will know what they need to do in order to be well on their way to their zodiac weapon.

It's really a great way for low level players to meet some high level players, maybe join an FC or linkshell and make new friends. It makes the world feel full, and will be a breath of fresh air from any new players coming in seeing active zones. I just feel there are way more positives than negatives with this.
04-03-2014, 06:02 AM
Akujin

I've seen some people get levels in the Fates I've been in at low levels, so while it's true that some fates get steam rolled, it's not completely killing the experience. Plus, if I know I'm in a fate with low level people by examining them I'll let them get the first hit on a mob so they can get that credit regardless then obliterate the mob.
04-03-2014, 06:18 AM
MithrasInvictus

Quote:

Originally Posted by seraseth

It's any fate in the 12 zones.

Ahhhh. Yes, I could see that being very problematic...
04-03-2014, 10:31 AM
Alazier

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunaela

I don't see it as an issue. For one, you can always invite low level players to a fate party (who says they need to be excluded since players come and go constantly once they get their Atma). If low level players are curious, all they have to do is ask a high level player

It's really a great way for low level players to meet some high level players, maybe join an FC or linkshell and make new friends. It makes the world feel full, and will be a breath of fresh air from any new players coming in seeing active zones. I just feel there are way more positives than negatives with this.

That would be a great thing if our community was so positive and inviting towards new players but from my experience, ive seen many people shunned because they are new, people leave parties on you, they ignore you, just because they only want to scratch your back if you scratch theres.very rarely do you come across nice people who play to help others out
04-03-2014, 10:31 AM
Alazier

Not only that,but how many fates have you joined where people actually talk? Most of the time its brainless silence.
04-06-2014, 02:01 AM
Maikochan

The 2.2 update came the day after my 30 free days expired and I can honestly say that if I had seen these mobbings beforehand, I never would have payed for a subscription. It completely takes any enjoyibility out of it when you join a FATE and have everything you target killed before you have a chance to do anything.

There is a simple solution, I think, to this problem, however. Make it so these Atma things only drop when you're not level sync'd.

As for those saying there's bunches of other quests for lowbies to do to gain experience, not really. I've already completed all of the 1-15 quests that I've been able to find in all three regions and still am relying on leves and FATEs to gain experience at any reasonable rate. Now it's just the leves.