Since were trying to get SE's attention on what this game needs fixin I figure I would put out there one of the most annoying aspects that I have of the world of FF14 and that is the boring bland copy and paste aspect of Gridania and other continents. It's gotten so bad at Gridania that on Gysahl server Gridania is pretty much uninhabited by it's citizens.
I tried to join 3 behests the other day only to be the the only member present at all 3 of them......Let me tell you why Square Enix
1. No fast travel to Gridania...WE NEED airships there and back.
2. Boring bland world full of twists and turns that mirror each other exactly. Other MMO's that have
forests don't have these many obstacles...it makes this area boring, uninteresting, and predictable. We need vast open forest areas where we can come into large openings then creep in between trees when we have too...use the terrain to our advantage instead we have REd dots one shotting us from around corners.
(Don't get me started on Uldah it's the same way)
Unless you want Uldah to be the only inhabited area by it's citizens/players SE you seriously need to give more players incentives to go to Gridania, literally it's a ghost town overthere.
3. The main city is too spread out....you literally have to go too far to get from point A to point B anywhere in Gridania, it's a pain.
I put this same thread on another forum on the internet and many people said it was just too dam boring copy and pastey...
I like Gridania....as an Archer I would think it would be my perfect hunting ground to kill stuff and scavenge good materials...wrong.....I can't go where I want because of all the barriers, hell I can't even run over a root without hitting an invisible wall....
It's a shame really such a nice area hampered by development.
Gridania Copy and Paste--Uldah Copy and Paste
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03-09-2011, 09:54 AMSilvyanissGridania Copy and Paste--Uldah Copy and Paste
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03-09-2011, 09:58 AMgifthorse
I think the spread-out nature of Gridania (the city) is a characteristic of that city and shouldn't be changed. The surrounding area (the black shroud) has so many interesting areas, but they are arranged in such an unflattering/repeating way that the zone becomes so repulsive to run through more than once.
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03-09-2011, 09:59 AMAbriael
Recycling of assets is a common characteristic of every single videogame, even more MMOs.
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03-09-2011, 10:10 AMSquirrelKing
I just did my first run through the Black Shroud, and while the atmosphere is excellent to a point, it got really tiresome to see the same waterfall, the same cave, and the same barely open copse of tiny trees with marmots in it. I am really getting tired of marmots!
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03-09-2011, 10:12 AMDingleberryI thought you might like them SQUIRRELking...Quote:
Originally Posted by SquirrelKing
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03-09-2011, 10:20 AMKurokikaze
Um are you all aware that arguing about this after the game has been released is a moot point? Right? Changing maps and altering areas in the way that you guys are hinting isn't a patch thats a ticket right back to the pre-release development phase.
All you guys can do now is hope that any new areas are inspired by a little more than CTRL+V.
Let's focus on things that they can fix instead of cluttering the forums with stupidity. -
03-09-2011, 10:21 AMXatshNeed MOAR NANNYGOATS!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SquirrelKing
But on topic Gridania has a lot of extremely good looking areas in it: the large waterfall areas, the tree that looks like the one in boyodha, and the large lakes just look awesome, strange stone formations, large glowing trees. But sorta is negated by the horrible copy paste of zone. -
03-09-2011, 10:25 AMJmeat
Grid is kinda a let down. Ronfuare was more interesting.
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03-09-2011, 11:49 AMFusionx
The overall design of the Black Shroud makes it impossible to navigate when in areas with aggressive monsters. There's simply no way around them because of the small "hallways" that make up the area. Unfortunately I don't see them going back and re-designing any areas anytime soon.
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03-09-2011, 04:59 PMGrundy
Not to argue your point (which may be relevant I don't travel through gridania much), but can't you just outrun the aggro mobs? I do it all the time in Thanalan, it's not an ideal solution (take note SE: Sneak & Invisible please) but it works......
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03-09-2011, 05:07 PMBetelgeuzah
Gridania and Ul'dah both have varied areas but the zones have too much filler in them. If most of the pathways were removed from The Black Shroud and the open areas in Thanalan made more compact, they would look completely different. Especially when new regions are released and players can level in more places, there is even less of a reason to keep the regions as-is. However, even a 'simple' task like this needs a huge amount of work and it would not be surprising if SE didn't put resources to it. I can see them making it so we'll move from one area to another much faster instead. For example you would stay in Thanalan for 15 ranks, then move on to Coerthas until rank 25, then to Mor Dhona until you hit 30. New regions (or dungeons in the starter regions) would take you to 50.
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03-09-2011, 05:14 PMKilta_Firelotus
I don't see it sorry guys. I think you guys read too much into what a troll said about this game and are looking for it. I've seen tons of youtube vids about ffxiv and I just don't see it. It looks like ffxi with better graphiocs to me.
If ffxiv is copy and pasted then ffxi was also. I been following this game for a while and the copy and paste thing for me came up AFTER launch. You think it woulda been around since the nda lift.
Also there are already topics on this on the front page. Post this in one of them instead. Its hard to keep up if everyone is posting the same thing 20 times. Stop copy amd pasting your complaints please . -
03-09-2011, 05:20 PMKilta_Firelotus
I guess no one here ever been to kazam in ffxi. Or yuhtanga and yhoator jungles. >.> if you did you wouldn't complain. And that was for a long time a lvling zone. And no one in game complained how copy andpasted those zones where. Just how bad the map was. Or King Rapperres (sp) towb in east ron. That was prettty copy and p[asted too yet no one complained.
My question is are they really that copy and pasted? Or are ppl just looking for a reason to complain?
DCUO has much worst copy and pasting even I notice it. Yet when I brought it up no one agreewed with me.
Kinda see where I'm going with this?
simply put, its annoying because you are looking for it. Just stop trying to look for it and enjoy the game. If it really needs to be fixed ffxiv can release a "cata" expack and change the zones like WoW did. -
03-09-2011, 05:24 PMEruantiendoesnt really work when you get 1 shotted by a diremite or hog in your wayQuote:
Not to argue your point (which may be relevant I don't travel through gridania much), but can't you just outrun the aggro mobs? I do it all the time in Thanalan, it's not an ideal solution (take note SE: Sneak & Invisible please) but it works......
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03-09-2011, 05:41 PMKilta_Firelotus
You guys got any suggestion other then a rant post? like your ideas to fix the "copy and pasted" enviroment?
Or how about someone make a youtube movie post it to point out these copy and pasted stuff. Along with suggestion for less "copy and pasted" look. -
03-09-2011, 05:49 PMGrundyIf you think this is a troll thread then you need to toughten up. Seriously. For the sake of your own health I'd recommend avoiding ZAM and Blue Gartr may just make your head explode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus
In other words, lighten up. The OP made a post on why he didn't like The Shroud, that's his opinion and his right. While it may not have been the most diplomatic post it was in no way really imflammitory either. A few people have agreed with him, again, well within their rights and now you have chipped in with a stop trolling the forums decree.
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03-09-2011, 05:51 PMDemaciahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus
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03-09-2011, 05:52 PMXatsh
The truth is people played all through the alpha/beta and not once on the beta forums (The most troll infested place on earth) was copy paste mentioned and none of the terrains changed since then. Then Mike B from Zam made that Copy/pasta video and instantly it became game breaking for the majority.
It is no where as bad as ppl make it seems. Now if you focus on it and look for it yea it can piss you off, which I think is what everyone is experiencing right now.
The copy paste is noticeable because there is not enough landmarks and points of interest and the fact the game is not finished makes everything wrong 10xs worse for some reason. -
03-09-2011, 05:56 PMWynnNot. True. At. All. I was in the game from Alpha and I know for a fact it was complained about on the beta boards. Heavily.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh
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03-09-2011, 06:02 PMAcydcrossQuote:
Originally Posted by SquirrelKing
Sorry, I really need to say - LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingleberry
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03-09-2011, 06:10 PMMadroxSo you haven't played Ffxiv yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus
The copy paste is honestly alot more noticeable than almost any other mmorpg I have played, and I like to try new/old F2P and P2P just for the enjoyment of trying something new quite frequently.. -
03-09-2011, 06:30 PMJabo
Finaly someone mentions that!
Am i the only one who still things that an RPG (even MMO) is all about the "Fantasy Experience" (and not a race to get to rank 50).
I played through Alpha/Beta an thought "copy and paste" would be no big issue because we will get different areas in the final game.
I was realy surprised after i saw, that there are no different areas but 2, with very few things to do there.
And the 3 City-Areas seem very "crafted" and also lack a lot of uniqueness and charakter.
And yes: it is indeed an important issue NOW.
1. The hame needs more veriety in general (new Areas, specific landmarks in existing areas etc)!
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03-09-2011, 08:03 PMNepheraand putting more landmarks would be a pretty good bandaid till they can get some major terrain fixes in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xatsh