New recipes

So I was looking over the patch with the new recipes and noticed this:
1. No new accessories crafted by goldsmith? o.o Unless that Gold Spectacles is customizable for all classes.
2. Alchemists being able to craft the Giantsgall items that were only repairable by Alchemist before. Vanity? Still i70?
3. New dragoon gears (Wolfram) are still separated from Monk (Saurian of Striking).
What else do you notice about the new recipes?

Well, you didn't read wrongly. There are no accessory reciples.

A lot of mystery items. A lot.

Crafting DOH stations now requires a new item that needs to be tracked down
Cost of 'clear prisms' for glamor prisms still do not have an associated cost-value announced in the notes, and can potentially be hiding a prohibitively expensive 'gil soaker'
i70 gear materials costing 1,500 Company Seals apeice will relegate the i70 sets to the annals of history as 'murdered by design' 13,500 seals for a single darksteel ingot used in deprecated gear? No. Just get carried through CT a few times for i80 drops and i90 Myth.
Gardening is still completely black-box, including the yields to be expected. Seeds have been 'added', but a number of mechanics are still hidden and subject to speculation.

Carpenters seem to be doing well in this patch.

the materials required for those crafting stations are obtained via cross breeding plants in gardening. It's unlikely cost of prisms will be high but it won't matter. Crafters will get what they can get no matter how cheap the cost is

I noticed that about the goldsmithing as well and I just hope they left it out for laughs. . .
I was looking forward to making new accessories. i70 for life.

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Originally Posted by Gurpsmeister

the materials required for those crafting stations are obtained via cross breeding plants in gardening. It's unlikely cost of prisms will be high but it won't matter. Crafters will get what they can get no matter how cheap the cost is

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Lets take for example carpenter prisms :
- walnut lumber X2 (total 4 wind shards + 6 walnut logs- price on raw materials lets say between 5-10gils per piece? so 50-100gils)
- Wind crystal X1 (around 10gil?)
- Ice crystal X1 (around 10 gil?)
- clear prism X1

I imagine clear prisms will cost the same as the Dark Matter for repairs.

so my guess will be between 200-500 gil with the first being sold at 1 million :)

Some of the new recipes call for materials that would seem to need to be crafted, but there is no recipe listed for those materials. Some examples: the light steel plate for the light steel galerus and subligar, the mariner cotton cloth for the sailor shirt, brais, and shoes, and the taffeta silk for taffeta shawl and loincloth. Also, given that they require clusters, it would appear that the light steel and taffeta "armor" (level 1 so purely for vanity) are two-star recipes.

wonder how many stocked up on clusters..

Giantsgall War Axe is apparently crafted from Mossy Stone Claw. Typo I know. -.-

A lot of recipes were left out, I'm sure. Don't see anything for the crafted Brayflox Gear or lv15 crafted dungeon gear at all.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

Cost of 'clear prisms' for glamor prisms still do not have an associated cost-value announced in the notes, and can potentially be hiding a prohibitively expensive 'gil soaker'
Gardening is still completely black-box, including the yields to be expected. Seeds have been 'added', but a number of mechanics are still hidden and subject to speculation.

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Did they mention clear prisms being bought by vendor or gather-able? I was thinking Gatherers would be able to find them, so price would be up to Market Boards. And I actually like not knowing a lot about Gardening, I'm excited to experiment :)

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Originally Posted by PArcher

A lot of recipes were left out, I'm sure. Don't see anything for the crafted Brayflox Gear or lv15 crafted dungeon gear at all.

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They could be drops form Brayflox HM and the other two new dungeons. There are ilvl70 armors in the item list like these:
Protector's Cuirass Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50
Hussar's Jackcoat Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50
Fistfighter's Jackcoat Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50
Shikaree's Doublet Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50
Pilgrim's Robe Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50
Magician's Robe Body Item Level: 70 / Equipment Level: 50

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Originally Posted by Clavaat

Did they mention clear prisms being bought by vendor or gather-able? I was thinking Gatherers would be able to find them, so price would be up to Market Boards. And I actually like not knowing a lot about Gardening, I'm excited to experiment :)

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After completing the quest Submission Impossible, players will be able to purchase master recipe books, as well as the clear prisms needed to craft glamour prisms.

Clear prisms may be purchased from the following NPCs.
Limsa Lominsa Lower Decks (X:9, Y:11) - Bango Zango
New Gridania (X:11, Y:11) - Maisenta
Ul'dah: Steps of Nald (X:10, Y:9) - Roarich

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Originally Posted by Bixby

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Thank you sir! Overlooked that...

I can't imagine they would be very expensive, as you can begin making them at a fairly low level crafter. That being said, I would have preferred them to be gatherer exclusive like the Materia items, but eh.

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Originally Posted by Clavaat

Thank you sir! Overlooked that...

I can't imagine they would be very expensive, as you can begin making them at a fairly low level crafter. That being said, I would have preferred them to be gatherer exclusive like the Materia items, but eh.

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Incorrect. You can't make prisms unless you are level 50, as they're unlocked by the Master Craftsman books. Therefore, Glamour is content that is only available among people who have level 50 crafts/combat classes. There is no requirement to make anything 'affordable' at this level, even if the products are "usable" by your off-classes (note: not players who do not have a L50 class)

They are available at "a price" from an NPC vendor who will then control the minimum cost of entry into the new luxury system.

EDIT: Thanks dcdistro for confirming that the prisms have NOT been added as items that can be obtained via gathering.

New items have been added to gathering points.

Miner
Umbral Rock / Ferberite / Native Gold / Raw Ruby / Grade 1 La Noscean Topsoil / Grade 2 La Noscean Topsoil / Grade 3 La Noscean Topsoil / Grade 1 Shroud Topsoil / Grade 2 Shroud Topsoil / Grade 3 Shroud Topsoil / Grade 1 Thanalan Topsoil / Grade 2 Thanalan Topsoil / Grade 3 Thanalan Topsoil
* Soil is used for gardening.

Botanist
Fragrant Log / Scarlet Sap / Shroud Tea Leaves / Apricot / La Noscean leek / Young Cieldalaes Spinach / Blood Orange / Wild Onion Set / Coerthas Carrot Seeds / La Noscean Lettuce Seeds / Olive Seeds / Popoto Set / Millioncorn Seeds / Wizard Eggplant Seeds / Midland Cabbage Seeds / Dzemael Tomato Seeds / La Noscean Orange Seeds / Lowland Grape Seeds / Faerie Apple Seeds / Sun Lemon Seeds / Pixie Plum Seeds / Blood Currant Seeds / Mirror Apple Seeds / Rolanberry Seeds / Honey Lemon Seeds / Prickly Pineapple Seeds /Garlic Cloves / Lavender Seeds / Black Pepper Seeds / Ala Mhigan Mustard Seeds /Pearl Ginger Root / Chamomile Seeds / Linseed /Midland Basil Seeds / Mandrake Seeds / Almond Seeds
* Seeds are used for gardening.

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Originally Posted by Zourin

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Ugh, I think I'm mixing up details, sorry about that. Regardless, price would just be speculation at this point, will have to check it out tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by PArcher

A lot of recipes were left out, I'm sure. Don't see anything for the crafted Brayflox Gear or lv15 crafted dungeon gear at all.

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Originally Posted by File2ish

They could be drops form Brayflox HM and the other two new dungeons.

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I was under the impression that there would be craftable versions of the popular low/mid-level dungeon gear, largely so that people could use them for vanity (and being craftable, they would be dyeable, enhancing their suitability for vanity). But the only recipes I see that look like they would be for that gear are light steel galerus/subligar and taffeta shawl/loincloth. Hopefully, there are other recipes that weren't included in the lists.

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Originally Posted by HarleyTopper

Some of the new recipes call for materials that would seem to need to be crafted, but there is no recipe listed for those materials. Some examples: the light steel plate for the light steel galerus and subligar, the mariner cotton cloth for the sailor shirt, brais, and shoes, and the taffeta silk for taffeta shawl and loincloth. Also, given that they require clusters, it would appear that the light steel and taffeta "armor" (level 1 so purely for vanity) are two-star recipes.

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I'm guessing those things are material obtained through tomes, or some other means much like the philo mats. Or how garlean steel plates were, can't be made by us, but can be found and use to craft....minions haha.

I'm not sure why you guys think the brayflox sets were left out of the patch notes.

Aren't they just the models for the new i90 sets now?

If not, what did they show us in that video? They were just recycling those popular models for the new i90 crafted gear as far as I could tell (Minus the tank gear for some odd reason).

While watching the video and also in some of the shots shown in the previews, you'll notice the new crafted tank set(which is just a mild rework of the old crafted tank set) is always shown next to characters in the brayflox sets.

I could be grossly mistaken, but isn't that what it seems like with what limited information we have?