Congratulations to Titan Ex designer

You have managed to design a very balanced fight. Undergear that #### and you'll get Sumo'ed to death. Overgear that #### and...

Geocrush happens with the healer still inside the gaol.

This actually happened to me two days ago. Our DPS were so strong Titan jumped with me still inside the gaol (second geocrush). You know that healers are usually the one at the border of the ring, and geocrush removed the ground under my feet. I fell with the gaol intact.

The correct countermeasure that we should have done would be to administer the dps carefully. But really, how are you going to do that?

You don't have to stand at the very edge of the platform, you just need to be far enough away that the gaols don't get the defensive buff, which actually isn't very far.

Stand on the edge of the orange circle, not on the very edge of the platform. Happens from time to time, no problem, the group just crushs it during/after jump.

This "blame the devs" for every bit of ones inability is highly annoying.

wait are you complaining, that a dungeon word extreme in it is still "hard" when you are overgeared?
what is wrong with people?

You think gaols and geocrush at the same time is bad? Try bombs, gaols AND Geocrush all at once. I think there was a landslide somewhere there too

To be honest, this has happened to my group in the past, and we had no issue about it. You have ample time to just break the gaol while he jumps if you have such a good dps. Of couse you have to switch to gaols right away, waiting a full second is not an option, but it's completely doable.

If your dps was even faster that gaol wouldn't even happen. Your dps was too slow to skip the gaols but fast enough to skip the sumo.

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Originally Posted by Raestloz

You have managed to design a very balanced fight. Undergear that #### and you'll get Sumo'ed to death. Overgear that #### and...

Geocrush happens with the healer still inside the gaol.

This actually happened to me two days ago. Our DPS were so strong Titan jumped with me still inside the gaol (second geocrush). You know that healers are usually the one at the border of the ring, and geocrush removed the ground under my feet. I fell with the gaol intact.

The correct countermeasure that we should have done would be to administer the dps carefully. But really, how are you going to do that?

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1. Healer gaol should stay in the orange, in case this happens.

2. Titan jumping after Gaols isn't a big deal. Just break the rocks and continue the fight as normal.

3. This is not strong DPS. Above average for a PF? Maybe. Strong DPS brings Titan below 55% before the Gaols happen. Really good DPS makes Titan jump before he drops bombs.

Your dps was just a bit low. If it was high enough, you wouldn't see the 2nd set of gaols

Healers in gaols when Titan jumps is not a wipe only not ideal, if you are good you will be able to react and adjust to that. Being unable to do the unexpected means you can only do the fights that go to script, it means you're not a consistent player.

Also it doesn't happen when DPS is good. I've had Titan jump after the first rock bombs appear with a normal composition, that's good DPS.

I actually love this fight even more now that theres the Eco buff. Saw a party get to +25% Eco bonus cuz they still got knocked off by landslides. PLD had over 9k HP, and WAR over 11k, most DPS well over 5k, and yet it wasnt enough! Brilliant SE! Keep those baddies where they belong, out of higher tier content! Lol the mechanics of this fight and Eco just made it a nonstop lol wipe fest.

EDIT: When we finally managed to beat it (2 healers, BLM, SMN left alive in the end) the first thing I said to them all was "Wait until you guys get to Leviathan EX"

I was in groups before the patch that could do this. As others said, stay on the outside of the innermost circle. Sometimes others make an adjustment and break the healer out first when this happens.

If your dps is strong enough, Titan will jump before the 2nd set of gaols.

If you have a ranged dps or two and they are smart enough when that happens, they will be hitting the healer gaol first and the healer will get released relatively soon.

As a healer you do not need to go to the edge all the time, you should actually estimate where the people will get knocked back to so they can dps the gaol immediately after upheaval anyways.

I had a farming run that ran Titan EX 3 times, and twice Titan jumped during 2nd set of gaol and we got both out just fine.

All you can do is to slow down your dps slightly, if you are still having trouble.

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Originally Posted by Chihaya

If you have a ranged dps or two and they are smart enough when that happens, they will be hitting the healer gaol first and the healer will get released relatively soon.

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Just commenting to say you don't need ranged dps to do this. Melees can just shoulder tackle/dragonfire dive/spineshatter dive to the healer and break them out just as easily. In fact, Titan is the most melee-friendly extreme primals fight out of them all.

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EDIT: When we finally managed to beat it (2 healers, BLM, SMN left alive in the end) the first thing I said to them all was "Wait until you guys get to Leviathan EX"

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Levi looks to be an easier fight than Titan is, so I'm not too sure what your point was.

You have way more space to work with in that fight, people don't rely on the instant-death-if-you-don't-dodge-them plume stacking strategy, and Levi's slams on the boat are very heavily choreographed (watch where it is going with Spinning Dive) to the point where they shouldn't be knocking you into the drink if you're paying any attention.

I think Levi is easier than Titan and Ifrit, so yeah

Am I the only one not reading this as a sarcastic complaint?

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Am I the only one not reading this as a sarcastic complaint?

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I think most people on the forums just have a "l2p noob!" chambered in case they sense anybody even slightly unhappy about any mechanic. Pretty sure several misfired on this thread about someone actually happy about mechanics.

That is not an issue. Limit break on snakes in Twintania is more of an issue, especially since people have to find ludicrous ways of filling the bar faster (everyone eating body slams) when the dps, damage mitigation, and heals are too good for the intended fight. I've almost given up on finding a group for 2nd Binding Coil because its difficult to get people through that fight so they can do the new content. Mod support would have helped tremendously, too, but SE can't seem to put a leash on their legal team.

The gaols are doable with high dps as long as people know that the dps is high. The gaols just need to be placed on the edge of the yellow crystal part of the platform. Once done, the fight can be accomplished with relative ease. Just watch out for weight's of the land.

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Originally Posted by Raestloz

The correct countermeasure that we should have done would be to administer the dps carefully. But really, how are you going to do that?

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This is an interesting mechanic I'd like to see more of. DF pts in CT have a similar issue on the bone dragon.

Titan is overtuned from the begining. people who have beaten it dozens of time skill have trouble.

Now that the reward for it is out dated no one is gonna want to even try it again because of the how unforgiving it is. No way new players will be able to do it now that better players will have no incentive to help, other than clear selling.

Titan is just a poorly thought out internet check. Go ahead and remove it.

1. Titan is not overtuned. The DPS requirements aren't exactly high as other people think it is. They just want to move phases exactly like the guide video so anything out of the ordinary makes people freak out and forget common sense.
2. I sincerely enjoy Titan the most out of all the primal fights. It's one of those fights that if you learn it well, you can do a lot of difference compared to when you didn't know better. It even has a set rotation so you would know exactly what would happen before it even comes up on the screen.

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Originally Posted by Lemon8or

. It's one of those fights that if you learn it well, you can do a lot of difference compared to when you didn't know better. It even has a set rotation so you would know exactly what would happen before it even comes up on the screen.

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Problem is, lag throw all preparation away. I wasted 4 month trying to kill him due to that, to finally get him down on a deserted time frame ( no lag spike, yay !).

And even when YOU don't lag, there are still 7 other people who need to know the dance and not to lag... :/

But yeah, overall if noone is diing, titan isn't overtuned at all. So sad it's only a über-strict lag check on an easy fight when known

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Originally Posted by Akirakogami

Titan is overtuned from the begining. people who have beaten it dozens of time skill have trouble.

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Nope, easy peezy.

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

Am I the only one not reading this as a sarcastic complaint?

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COrrect, this is not a sarcastic complaint. To create a content that requires careful DPS administration is something. Most contents in just about every game I play (even Dark Souls) are merely about avoiding damage and dealing damage as quickly as possible, as hard as possible. Titan Ex actually adds a possibility where you actually screw up for dealing damage incorrectly

Trick to that is to stay inside the yellow part of the ring, Healers don't go into the brown part of the ring, since that's the part that falls off. Couldn't possibily be more obvious where to go to avoid getting dropped into oblivion when that phase gets pushed. (besides the flashing red circle saying don't go past here) Just gotta be aware.

Although I feel bad for you, that blows. Echo buffs and being overgeared actually makes this fight a bigger pain in the bum than the original fight. '-')/

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Originally Posted by Yotsu

wait are you complaining, that a dungeon word extreme in it is still "hard" when you are overgeared?
what is wrong with people?

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Now if only it was actually hard. ):