Chocobos in 1.18?

I was reading the month old article on Siliconera, and it stated that "Ifrit, ridable chocobos, auto attack, leve reforms, and instance raids" were all coming in 1.18 -- so far, we've had almost all of this delivered, but not even a mention of a chocobo.

Don't hold your breath. it's just a game anyway,

The short answer is: Nope.

it includes battle tweaks, nothing to get overly excited about. Content seems to be at least 3 patches away.

oh yeah the dungeon will be coming though. I can't believe how long we've waited for these small things.

The way I try to reason the horribly horribly slow pace of anything they're doing is the fact that the game is barely finished yet so we shouldn't (?) expect them to update this game as often as other MMOs get updates...

Then again I personally think that time is of the essence to them with the game bleeding players by the second. If SE was smart they'd hire more people to this project that now seems more like n.yoshida's vanity project rather than a full-blown FF product.

Why would they say they were going to add something and then not do it, then? :(

because there ebil.

SE has already confirmed chocobos will be tested around patch 1.19 if not after. Airship transportation confirmed to be in 1.19.

They never said chocobos were ready for 1.18 they are working on it.

In 1.18 we will have 2 dungeons, a better hate control, a modification on leves and some bugs fix that's all.

They said they won't add contents before battle system changed >.< i don't understand why cause chocobos, housing, pets, season event etc don't need to use this battle system so why they stop everything else than the battle system...

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Originally Posted by Richard

SE has already confirmed chocobos will be tested around patch 1.19 if not after. Airship transportation confirmed to be in 1.19.

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Really? Source?

Chocobos need to come soon if dungeons are coming. You won't be able to set up a party for a dungeon in town and then have everyone run to the dungeon it would take way to long. We will just have to camp outside dungeons to form parties until there is a faster way to travel. We may be able to use anima of course but that is not always available.

1.18 still has auto-attack. It also comes with the fundamental adjustments to the battle system, which takes a LOT of calibration. They can then build on this base, making future patches easier to turn out.

They'll also likely be expanding the story a little further, as with previous patches. There WILL be quests associated with the dungeons (to unlock them) and possibly some more grand company bits and pieces.

One of the recent letters explicitly says Ifrit is planned for 1.19.

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Originally Posted by Akira_Tenshi

Chocobos need to come soon if dungeons are coming. You won't be able to set up a party for a dungeon in town and then have everyone run to the dungeon it would take way to long. We will just have to camp outside dungeons to form parties until there is a faster way to travel. We may be able to use anima of course but that is not always available.

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I highly doubt everyone in your party will be at <6 anima

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Originally Posted by Richard

SE has already confirmed chocobos will be tested around patch 1.19 if not after. Airship transportation confirmed to be in 1.19.

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Yoshida confirmed that he will try to get them in by 1.19, not that they are definitely gonna be there.

You can see right away that article is wrong, since Ifrit is confirmed as being added on 1.19, not 1.18

I've been meaning to say this for a while, but somehow never get to: There's not enough world for Chocobos yet. We already ran out of world-lands to explore, remove the distance feel and Hydaelyn will become boring in a second. I oppose the idea of Chocobos until the map expands at least twofold. But I know that will be just me. :-(

Airships as a way to save anima, might make sense, but from the landing platforms I've seen around, they don't seem to be designed to go from city to city just yet.

I just don't want Eorzea to shrink all of a sudden.

Basically all anyone has to do for something to "be confirmed" for this patch or that is to post it. Even if they're mistaken. Two people read that thread, then they tell two people, etc. I remember reading an interview where Tanaka said the Western players were kind of notorious for rumor-mongering like that. But honestly, it can't be helped, when information is so sporadic and disjointed. We will, by default, try and fill the gaps.

The last I heard, chocobos were being looked into, but definitely not for 1.18. I believe they're trying to push airships through though, if possible. Rumors away!

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Originally Posted by Seif

it includes battle tweaks, nothing to get overly excited about. Content seems to be at least 3 patches away.

oh yeah the dungeon will be coming though. I can't believe how long we've waited for these small things.

The way I try to reason the horribly horribly slow pace of anything they're doing is the fact that the game is barely finished yet so we shouldn't (?) expect them to update this game as often as other MMOs get updates...

Then again I personally think that time is of the essence to them with the game bleeding players by the second. If SE was smart they'd hire more people to this project that now seems more like n.yoshida's vanity project rather than a full-blown FF product.

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There are some problems you can't fix by throwing more people at them....

Like waiting 2 hours for an artist to draw your portrait....
Adding 2 more artists to speed it up isn't wise or feasible....

there is a process... a progression to things....
More people working in more teams would further obscure the vision of the producer...
You could have a million people on the project... but if all other facets hinge on things like the battle system and overall lag then you just have to wait....

Say I am on the team making battle animations...
until the battle system is fleshed out, I wont know the speed or pace of battle... the feel of combat, so I can't possible make animations that fit within the context of a system that isn't finished....
So I can't even start on animations until the battle system is at least in testing....
Then... Yoshi P has told my team there will be server and formula tweaks to increase responsiveness and reduce lag....
So I can start the animations... but have to keep in mind that some of them could be ill timed or glitchy if the timing changes due to server or engine tweaks....
So no.. You can't have 40 teams working on different aspects at the same time....
Even with 10 teams, the only way that can work is if Yoshi essentially makes himself a member of each team to keep everyone coordinated.. and even then there are things that can't be done until others are done first....

If you want a good game... give them time...
If you want a crappy rushed overhaul that is on par with launch... then whine, cry, troll, and Q.Q about them taking too long

Looks like it may be possible for 1.19.

From my translation thread.

JP has same thread as the NA side about ways to have players spend the gil to control the economy and YoshiP has responded a while ago so here's the translation for that.

Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/13623

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Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida

プロデューサ/ディレクタの吉田です。
Producer/Director Yoshida Here,

正直に言えば、ギルについては非常に頭を悩ませているポイントです。
（経済循環の全体デザインという意味ではなく、貯め込んで頂いたギルと、排出速度について）
パッチ1.19で3国飛空艇/チョコボ関連/マテリアクラフト/レシピ改修などにより、
現在よりギルの使い道は大幅に増加します。
ただし、膨大に貯め込まれたギルが、どう動くのか予測しきれていない部分もあります。
ですので、パッチ1.19をかわきりに、消費先をどんどん拡大させた上で、
ギルの排出と消費を見ていこうと思っています。対応ははじめていますので、宜しくお願いします。
Honestly the gil issue is troubling me.
(Not meaning design of the total economic cycle but the gil the players have saved, usage rate)
In patch 1.19 3country Airship/Chocobo Related/Materia Craft/Recipe improvements should increase ways to utilize the gil.
But we cannot forecast how the gil will move for the huge amount of gil.
So in patch 1.19 expanding methods to consume more gil, and watch. We are already working on this.

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Thanks reinhart for the translation, google was of course off, and I only speak french other than my native english and you know how sometimes they get info later than us :/, so thank you again!

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Originally Posted by Tame

I was reading the month old article on Siliconera, and it stated that "Ifrit, ridable chocobos, auto attack, leve reforms, and instance raids" were all coming in 1.18 -- so far, we've had almost all of this delivered, but not even a mention of a chocobo.

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You shouldn't rely upon non-official sources, even if you consider they're reliable. I recommend you to check Lodestone AND Community Team members' posts here; that should help you to have a safe journey avoiding this kind of disappointments. You'll get different ones, though hahaha.

No. Next question.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

No. Next question.

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^ This, /topic.

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Originally Posted by Reinheart

Looks like it may be possible for 1.19.

From my translation thread.

JP has same thread as the NA side about ways to have players spend the gil to control the economy and YoshiP has responded a while ago so here's the translation for that.

Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/13623

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Not to sidetrack this topic, but one of the main reasons gil doesn't flow is the market wards. Yes they've improved them a lot and they are functional, but they arent accessible enough to allow gil flow.

Another reason is that there really isnt epic gear and such to spend gil on. This is what happens when you make a lot of good NM gear rare/ex. I think the introduction of rare ingredients and armor will increase gil flow. Sounds like dungeons may be addressing this?

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Originally Posted by Seif

it includes battle tweaks, nothing to get overly excited about. Content seems to be at least 3 patches away.

oh yeah the dungeon will be coming though. I can't believe how long we've waited for these small things.

The way I try to reason the horribly horribly slow pace of anything they're doing is the fact that the game is barely finished yet so we shouldn't (?) expect them to update this game as often as other MMOs get updates...

Then again I personally think that time is of the essence to them with the game bleeding players by the second. If SE was smart they'd hire more people to this project that now seems more like n.yoshida's vanity project rather than a full-blown FF product.

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most people bought this game thinking it was finished, thats why people are upset.

chocobos are not coming in 1.18, I have no idea where you got that

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Originally Posted by Tame

I was reading the month old article on Siliconera, and it stated that "Ifrit, ridable chocobos, auto attack, leve reforms, and instance raids" were all coming in 1.18 -- so far, we've had almost all of this delivered, but not even a mention of a chocobo.

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Ifrit Battle is scheduled for 1.19 as well.

i believe he misunderstood end of summer plans for for patch 1.18.

Just like people seem to think end of summer means late August, even though the dev team has specifically stated the end of summer is the end of September.

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Originally Posted by Rydin

There are some problems you can't fix by throwing more people at them....

Like waiting 2 hours for an artist to draw your portrait....
Adding 2 more artists to speed it up isn't wise or feasible....

there is a process... a progression to things....
More people working in more teams would further obscure the vision of the producer...
You could have a million people on the project... but if all other facets hinge on things like the battle system and overall lag then you just have to wait....

Say I am on the team making battle animations...
until the battle system is fleshed out, I wont know the speed or pace of battle... the feel of combat, so I can't possible make animations that fit within the context of a system that isn't finished....
So I can't even start on animations until the battle system is at least in testing....
Then... Yoshi P has told my team there will be server and formula tweaks to increase responsiveness and reduce lag....
So I can start the animations... but have to keep in mind that some of them could be ill timed or glitchy if the timing changes due to server or engine tweaks....
So no.. You can't have 40 teams working on different aspects at the same time....
Even with 10 teams, the only way that can work is if Yoshi essentially makes himself a member of each team to keep everyone coordinated.. and even then there are things that can't be done until others are done first....

If you want a good game... give them time...
If you want a crappy rushed overhaul that is on par with launch... then whine, cry, troll, and Q.Q about them taking too long

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The battle system overhaul and server fixes are indeed the big blockade. Once their groundwork is implemented, it will give all teams a platform to jump from, allowing them to implement all sorts of things they've been wanting to do since Yoshi-P took over.

Meanwhile, we also have to consider that SE want to release an expansion pack every now and then. If the developers are waiting on other departments for the current and upcoming content, it would be highly unlikely that they are just twiddling their thumbs. For example, while it may not be in the coming patch, they need to make new in-game assets of female roegadyn. They could also be working on building the landscape for the areas around Sharlayan and Ala Mhigo. Future story content. Cutscenes. Audio. The list goes on.

My point is, if we are forced to wait now, we won't be forced to wait as much later on.