Relic to Zenith to Zodiak, no Philo

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03-20-2014, 11:30 AM
jjfly

Relic to Zenith to Zodiak, no Philo

So I understand that in 2.2, Philosophy tomes will be removed from the game, like the interview says:

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Tomes

No more Philosophy after 2.2
Myth will take Philosophy's place
There will be an NPC around to trade Phil for Myth.

What I don't understand is how the Philosophy Items and the Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil will be handled without Philosophy. My assumption is that Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil and items will be either moved up to Myth or dropped like DL will be from dungeons. Can anyone guess what will happen?

Also, Thavnairian Mist, will that get moved up as well?
03-20-2014, 11:35 AM
Ooshima

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Originally Posted by jjfly

So I understand that in 2.2, Philosophy tomes will be removed from the game, like the interview says:

What I don't understand is how the Philosophy Items and the Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil will be handled without Philosophy. My assumption is that Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil and items will be either moved up to Myth or dropped like DL will be from dungeons. Can anyone guess what will happen?

Also, Thavnairian Mist, will that get moved up as well?

Probably both using myth, Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil might cost lesser.
03-20-2014, 11:36 AM
Zumi

They will probably both be bought with myth now.
03-20-2014, 11:37 AM
Nezerius

They're adding new unspoiled gathering nodes in 2.2, it's likely that the philo materials will come from those.

No idea about the Quenching Oil though, might just be moved to the Myth vendor.
03-20-2014, 11:37 AM
Grey_Cain

I guess Quenching Oil will drop from Hydra, and Mist will drop from....I dunno, Siren? But most likely the oil will be bought with Myth and the Mist will be bought with the new tomes.
03-20-2014, 12:22 PM
XanderOlivieri

All the Philo items are being added to dungeons being added to the Duty Finder in 2.2.

Was said in the interview.

I feel like items that correspond to Allagan Tomestones of Philosophy will basically be a waste after this patch. How are you dealing with that?

Yoshida: After the patch, you won't obtain Philosophy anywhere - it will be replaced with Mythology. There will be a NPC available which allows you to exchange currency at a predetermined rate.

What will happen to Darklight equipment which you were able to obtain for Philosophy?

Yoshida: It will be changed to a normal dungeon drop. It will drop in the dungeons which are added to the high level roulette. Instanced dungeons will have equipment at level 70, Crystal Tower will be level 80, and Turns 1-5 of Bahamut Coil as well as mythology gear will be level 90. The increase in item level should lead to growth on the main job. When we raise the level cap with an expansion and add additional dungeons and field area, that will lead to overall character growth.

AS said as well, there are new unspoiled Nodes as well as a new Quarrying spot in Nophica's Well, that can be where the oil is harvested. Or it could be in the Master Recipe Book for Alchemist or Culinarian.
03-20-2014, 04:12 PM
TomTom1968

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Originally Posted by Nezerius

They're adding new unspoiled gathering nodes in 2.2, it's likely that the philo materials will come from those.

No idea about the Quenching Oil though, might just be moved to the Myth vendor.

They need a replacement for sure, also for the ilvel 70 crafting ingredients you could buy for Philo tomes in Mor Dhona. We can only wait for the long blog entry about 2.2 I guess. At the moment I have more questions than answers lol.
03-20-2014, 04:15 PM
Reishi

What I am waiting for is that long list of detailed patch notes, not just bit by bit information. I want facts and not something that puts up even more questions.
03-20-2014, 04:55 PM
SirSaber

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Originally Posted by jjfly

So I understand that in 2.2, Philosophy tomes will be removed from the game, like the interview says:

What I don't understand is how the Philosophy Items and the Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil will be handled without Philosophy. My assumption is that Radz-at-Han Quenching Oil and items will be either moved up to Myth or dropped like DL will be from dungeons. Can anyone guess what will happen?

Also, Thavnairian Mist, will that get moved up as well?

It's not hard to understand really, you'll have 2k Mythology and it'll be unlimited and you'll buy the Phylo items with Mythos. Easy

Now why did you make this post if there was already one talking about this ?

forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/153707-Interview-Zodiak-weapons-Philo-removal-3.0-and-more

Next time I suggest you just post in existing threads that are talking about the same matter you're interessed about.

Cheers
03-20-2014, 04:58 PM
Shneibel

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Originally Posted by Reishi

What I am waiting for is that long list of detailed patch notes, not just bit by bit information. I want facts and not something that puts up even more questions.

that is their tatic, they ll release little bit of small information that ppl have interest and make ppl hyper
03-20-2014, 11:21 PM
TomTom1968

Another question about the exchange came to my mind: What will happen to the Level 50 story dungeons? In Roulette, you get 300 philo tomes per run. I can't imagine they will be replaced by 300 myth tomes from next week on. If they do not make a reasonable adjustment, I imagine new players will have more problems with these runs than beeing forced to skip the CS.
03-20-2014, 11:37 PM
Synapse

Does this mean, all the philo dropping areas in dungeon will be made into Myth drops? like would CT give Myth in replace of Philo dropping areas(like Boss1,2,and 3?)?
03-20-2014, 11:43 PM
Acala

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Originally Posted by Synapse

Does this mean, all the philo dropping areas in dungeon will be made into Myth drops? like would CT give Myth in replace of Philo dropping areas(like Boss1,2,and 3?)?

Yes. He says that in the interview that philo will be replaced with myth. he also says that philo will be exchangeable for myth given some conversion rate. Probably safe to assume that conversion rate will be applied to most things that will now be dropping myth.
03-20-2014, 11:55 PM
TomTom1968

Most dungeons have 2 tomes as rewards, like CT offers 200 philo and 50 myth. Will this be converted to 200 myth and 50 strategy tomes (the new tomes in town)?
03-20-2014, 11:57 PM
Lemon8or

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Most dungeons have 2 tomes as rewards, like CT offers 200 philo and 50 myth. Will this be converted to 200 myth and 50 strategy tomes (the new tomes in town)?

It probably won't be 1:1 conversion rate.
03-21-2014, 12:00 AM
SendohJin

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Originally Posted by TomTom1968

Most dungeons have 2 tomes as rewards, like CT offers 200 philo and 50 myth. Will this be converted to 200 myth and 50 strategy tomes (the new tomes in town)?

nobody knows what the rate will be, i doubt it will be 1 to 1.

the only equivalent in game right now is, last tier Beastmen Dailies give 15 Phils OR 3 Myth, so CURRENTLY that's what they feel like is a fair trade-off. if that holds true the Relic item will cost 180 Myth to buy and the crafting materials will cost 25 myths.
03-21-2014, 12:33 AM
Airikay

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Originally Posted by Grey_Cain

I guess Quenching Oil will drop from Hydra, and Mist will drop from....I dunno, Siren? But most likely the oil will be bought with Myth and the Mist will be bought with the new tomes.

Why would mist change? Its already bought with myth, so itd stay as myth.