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Why did SE nerf duty roulette?
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03-12-2014, 06:15 AMBamDeafPieWhy did SE nerf duty roulette?
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03-12-2014, 06:20 AMHulan
My understanding is that the experience values have not changed, but rather, the amount of experience you receive is dictated by the difference between your level and the level of the dungeon. Therefore, because of the change, you will see more higher level dungeons, which give a smaller relative bonus. It's worth mentioning that these bonuses are balanced with the EXP you are expected to receive by running the dungeon. A level 32 dungeon gives you far more experience per kill than a level 15 dungeon, meaning that the lump sum experience reward at the end has been set to make them approximately equivalent.
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03-12-2014, 06:22 AMBamDeafPie
Ahh I see. Is there any notes on that change because I don't remember SE mentioned any stuff like that.
I have always thought SE nerf it but turned out I'm wrong and I'm glad that I'm wrong. Thanks! -
03-12-2014, 06:23 AMDoctorPepper
They did not nerf duty roulette, it has always been this way. The higher level the dungeon is and closer it is to your own level, the lower bonus exp you get at the end. This is offset by the amount of exp you get per kill though since you get 4-5 times the exp per kill in say.. AV, than you do in lower level dungeons.
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03-12-2014, 06:24 AMOrophin
Basically it come down to you gaining about 40% of a level between monster kills and the bonus at the end. If you do a trial, like Ifrit, Titan or Garuda, you see that larger chunk up front. Same if you're running Sastasha in the level 40s. The per kill xp isn't very high so they make up for it by giving you a larger chunk at the end for finishing.
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03-12-2014, 06:25 AMRemn
Like Hulan said, the closer you are to the dungeon lv the less bonus Exp you will receive (Duty roulette give you bonus exp at the end).
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03-12-2014, 06:36 AMNoahlimits
That's why I love Ifrit / Titan for daily roulette. 5 minutes for a TON of exp (since it's such low level).
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03-12-2014, 06:43 AMKuwagami
You again ? I already told you all that has been said right here in game, like one week ago. And by then you were trashtalking me about the fact "I knew nothing at all and just wanted to white knight SE".
grow up a bit please, the roulette has been the same since the release of 2.1
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hmm yeah sorry got carried away a bit too far for my taste but... I was taken for a fool and trashtalked about that very subject by the OP not so long ago. Seeing him complain about it and then accepting my very arguments in less than 10 mins on a forum drove me outQuote:
Originally Posted by C-croft
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03-12-2014, 06:59 AMC-croftBitter much? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuwagami
But I do know what you are saying.... -
03-17-2014, 11:28 PMBamDeafPieQuote:
Originally Posted by Kuwagami
Same since 2.1? Are you drunk? -
03-18-2014, 12:39 AMSamburiYes, same since 2.1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
Only exception is the changes were you also get the dungeons after Ifrit. -
03-18-2014, 12:49 AMBamDeafPie
While I have to assume that no one use duty pre hotfix patch.
You used to able to get 200K+ exp in any dungeons.
Post hotfix patch, you get exp based on level of dungeon which mean you don't get 200K+ exp anymore. There. -
03-18-2014, 12:51 AMArkghyom
It has not changed.
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03-18-2014, 12:51 AMBamDeafPie
Read my reply please. It did in fact, change.
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03-18-2014, 12:55 AMDoctorPepper
Actually, you're wrong.. it didn't change, and now you're just making yourself look stupid so please stop..
The only thing that they changed is that now you have a better chance of getting dungeons appropriate to your level, prior to them changing that there was a "bug" and you would get lvl 15-20 dungeons almost constantly and in turn you would get a much higher exp bonus at the end because the monsters do not give as much exp. You were probably getting nothing but low lvl dungeons before, with high exp bonuses and shitty exp per monster. -
03-18-2014, 01:04 AMTiggyYou saying it and calling it a fact doesn't make it a fact. If you want to end this now just supply the patch notes for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
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03-18-2014, 01:28 AMLemon8orWho cares about your reply if you're wrong. The EXP bonus has always work this way. Just after patch, you get higher level dungeons, hence more EXP from mobs and lower bonus EXP at the end. Simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
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03-18-2014, 01:37 AMErrors
I can understand not understanding something and then after being corrected/explained on how something works to go, "Ah ha! Thanks folks!". However to turn around and simply deny it is a bit beyond my undertanding. I can't seem to tell if the person is naturally dense, purposely ignorant or simply just wanting to troll the forums. :|
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03-18-2014, 01:53 AMBixby
I've been tracking my roulette XP (roulette bonus, what XP bonuses I have active, newbie bonus(es) when applicable, and total XP) ever since this thread, both for guildhest and low level roulettes.
At the same level, you get roughly the same total XP (mob kills + roulette bonus) regardless of what instance you end up in, and regardless of how you handle the instance. It's easier to see with guildhests, since they generally don't provide enough (even with the roulette bonus) to level you. Especially if you get the one with the Iron Giant and the adds that spawn a few times at the same level. You get roughly the same total XP whether you keep the boss alive and kill every single add or ignore every add and only kill the boss. Any dungeon with a good amount of skippable trash will give the same sort of result. -
03-18-2014, 04:44 AMBamDeafPie
No one even understand? That's disappointing. I will explain again.
BEFORE hotfix patch, I used to getting 200K+ exp. see that? Two hundred thousand exp!
AFTER hotfix patch, now I getting 60K-90K exp.
Clear? -
03-18-2014, 04:51 AMCodekNot really, you kind of left out all the important details:Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
-Is that the bonus or total exp gain?
-What Dungeon?
-What Level?
-How many trash mobs did you kill?
-Do you have evidence or are you going of memory?
All of which should be answered for both the before and after events for what's in question... -
03-18-2014, 04:51 AMVolsung
Bam, is that the end bonus exp only you're looking at?
Can't just look at the end bonus, need to view exp earned
since entering the dungeon. -
03-18-2014, 04:52 AMKerenRhysReally, you should stop, you're embarassing yourself. There was no change in the xp reward from the roulette since it has been added to the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
The reason you saw 200K xp before and you see only 60K-90K xp now has already been explained on the previous page, and it's basically that the difference in level between your class and the dungeon you were doing was greater then than now.
By the way, I still see around 160K-180K bonus xp when I do Copperbell (for example) on my lv40 MNK (it was last saturday, so quite recently). -
03-18-2014, 04:55 AMLordSliver^^You understand here^^Quote:
Originally Posted by BamDeafPie
^^But now you don't understand here^^Quote:
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