Titan EM tanking at 11 or 1 o'clock position

This will result in the row-bomb-pattern opening more save space as he landslides with adds present. There are pt that are fine with that (weekly clear) but there are ppl say it is a bad spot and claim that I wipe the pt.

So can someone tell me if I should continues to tank at those 2 spot or just tank titan at north ?

I think this is more a case of people being used to how to dodge the landslide + bombs and you doing it differently throws them off. I don't think it matters too much where you tank him as long as the landslide is properly baited during the adds phase.

most people dont realize that in 3 row bomb it is perfect safe to stand on 2nd spawn bomb and run to center w/o getting hit. (most people i met tend to go to 3rd spawn bomb doesnt matter if it small area or have to go thru Add puddle ><.)
Titan Xm row bomb has delay longer than HM version. after LS casted wait 1.5 sec ish the run to center and you wont get hit by bomb

You can also have everyone stack right behind Titan for the landslide bait. The safe spot is always on his back. The safe bombs at the front is usually always what wipes people, but if the whole party just stacked on Titan, and ran through him to the safe spot on his back (where MT stands) they'd get the free spot every time. I see so many wipes because of that bomb formation, when the solution can be oh so simple.

To the OP, just tank it 12 o' clock like a normal tank. This is where the majority tank, and you are throwing off the landslide pattern and most likely causing wipes when you position at different angles. Any benefit you might be trying to achieve is automatically flushed down the toilet at that point.

Protip: Even if the Landslide covers the "safe" bomb, you can move into it as soon as the blue Landslide graphic disappears. You don't have to wait for his fist to slam the ground. This allows you to get into positon for the bombs explosion, regardless of where the Landslide is being faced.

I wish everyone knew the above. People wouldn't be so dependent on the Landslides being baited perfectly in order for them to survive.

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

I wish everyone knew the above. People wouldn't be so dependent on the Landslides being baited perfectly in order for them to survive.

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Same. Unfortunately getting 7/8 of the people to realize *and* implement it is not so easy. Can barely get people to move to the correct open bomb location in time after heart phase break and I mark the first bomb every time.. Relying on the same people to move to a bomb after landslide hits.. *shudder*. Bait is just more reliable for inconsistent people (most pugs).

so trying for more benefit is not the way to go eh ? >.<

thank for the reply, fellow tanker

I like when tanks turn Titan toward 11 o'clock position when row bombs are about to spawn because...

-- Every group I have ever seen tank and kill the adds on the East side (around 3 o'clock), leaving very few 'safe' areas on the East side if the last 'safe' row of bombs happen to spawn there during row bombs. The pools take up the majority of the Eastern area at that point.
-- If the tank turns Titan toward 11 o'clock, it is safe to run to the NE 'safe' bomb, and you will still have room to dodge landslide and get in position before waiting for the middle bombs to explode before running in.

I've seen a lot of DPS try to bait and move near the SE bomb, but they almost always get hit by the bomb or landslide... going to the NE is safer but a lot of dps seem to avoid that because they assume they'll get cleaved... but that won't happen if the tank turns Titan! I wouldn't suggest a tank face 11 o'clock at any point EXCEPT during row bombs, as this can confuse groups in other points of the fight (dodging double plumes, knowing exactly which superbomb to target... most groups prefer killing DUE SOUTH superbomb, but they get confused if the tank isn't DUE NORTH... despite having a minimap to refer to). =P

So, in short: I would only face 11 o'clock during row bombs IF the last 'safe' bomb to spawn is East, and then move back to due north at all other points of that last phase.

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

... most groups prefer killing DUE SOUTH superbomb, but they get confused if the tank isn't DUE NORTH...

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You can mark the location where the south Superbomb will drop with a waypoint before the fight starts. This helps keep people oriented for add phase as well.

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

Protip: Even if the Landslide covers the "safe" bomb, you can move into it as soon as the blue Landslide graphic disappears. You don't have to wait for his fist to slam the ground. This allows you to get into positon for the bombs explosion, regardless of where the Landslide is being faced.

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Critical note, though: the timing on EX is different compared to HM. The graphic starts to fade before the cast finishes, so if you move in when the graphic changes, you'll get punched off the edge. Took me a while to get used to it from HM (was pretty rage-inducing as well).

As a SCH, since most people tank Titan at 12 o'clock, I place my fairy between 9 and 10 o'clock. If you tank Titan at 11 o'clock, she gets cleaved and dies (and this happens often enough because of tanks forgetting where North is, or using the fairy as a waypoint when they shouldn't). That cleave of his is a lot wider than people often realize.

TBH if whichever tank is taking the adds stacks the Patches properly (killing the adds close to the edge between 2 and 3 o'clock, with landslide baited at 3) there's little/no issue here.
Groups on our server usually do adds at 3 and Superbomb at 9 o'clock; with healers and ranged DPS stacking at 6 o'clock right after heart to bait the next few abilities.

Usually when someone dies after heart phase in our groups now it's either due to bad stacking for plumes, or due to tunnel vision on Superbombs (people ALWAYS forget the plumes during Superbombs and the landslide right afterwards- that landslide is the only thing I still use a pre-emptive warning macro for in Titan EM...)

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Originally Posted by Ryuko

I like when tanks turn Titan toward 11 o'clock position when row bombs are about to spawn because...

-- Every group I have ever seen tank and kill the adds on the East side (around 3 o'clock), leaving very few 'safe' areas on the East side if the last 'safe' row of bombs happen to spawn there during row bombs. The pools take up the majority of the Eastern area at that point.

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This is a common problem, but what it actually is, is incorrect landslide baiting. When the last safe row is the side with the slag pools, you do not run to the safe row first (which is behaviour probably most people learned in Titan HM). What you do is bait the landslide in the first row, then move to the safe row once landslide has been successfully baited.

IN Titan HM you move to the safe row first because you can still move sideways after landslide is targetted. You do not have this luxury with EX in the side with slag pools, so you must bait landslide away from the safe row.

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Originally Posted by Shneibel

This will result in the row-bomb-pattern opening more save space as he landslides with adds present. There are pt that are fine with that (weekly clear) but there are ppl say it is a bad spot and claim that I wipe the pt.

So can someone tell me if I should continues to tank at those 2 spot or just tank titan at north ?

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RULE NO 1 : NEVER STAND ON SAFE ROW BOMBS SIDE BEFORE HE CAST LANDSLIDE

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Originally Posted by Empressia

RULE NO 1 : NEVER STAND ON SAFE ROW BOMBS SIDE BEFORE HE CAST LANDSLIDE

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Had a group do that to me yesterday. Pointed the landslide to Titan's left. There was literally zero safe space left for me to avoid the Landslide, so off the ledge I went.

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Originally Posted by Calyanare

As a SCH, since most people tank Titan at 12 o'clock, I place my fairy between 9 and 10 o'clock. If you tank Titan at 11 o'clock, she gets cleaved and dies (and this happens often enough because of tanks forgetting where North is, or using the fairy as a waypoint when they shouldn't). That cleave of his is a lot wider than people often realize.

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I actually prefer to keep the faerie on heel (still on Obey though) because, whenever I do it, the group stacks on Titan's butt for everything except for the superbombs and adds. Keeping her on top of me means that, beyond the faerie never getting cleaved, when I'm using Eos, Whispering Dawn is guaranteed to heal the group during Tumults instead of just the tank and the other healer and I are within range of Fey Illumination for that sweet sweet 20% +healing every 2 minutes; when I'm using Selene, it ensures that the DPS are actually getting the speed buffs rather than the ensuring that the tank does. The only EX primal fight where I use place is Ifrit, since I *can't* be stacked up with everyone else thanks to Searing Wind (for Garuda EX, I'm either standing right next to the tank, or the faerie would die to all of the AoEs around the tank).

Honestly though, this is more appropriate for the healer forums.

As to my tanking position, I just tank straight north and dodge bombs only if I can without movie Titan or causing him to face the group. The bombs aren't nearly as dangerous as they were in HM, so it doesn't bother me to soak one or two that I could have avoided otherwise, especially since I'm soaking it to make sure that the squishies aren't getting nailed.

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Originally Posted by kayuwoody

IN Titan HM you move to the safe row first because you can still move sideways after landslide is targetted. You do not have this luxury with EX in the side with slag pools, so you must bait landslide away from the safe row.

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Actually you can almost always bait landslide to the south in EX. Either that row will be an edge (and thus safe) or it will be the ends of the rows, and thus the bombs on either side of it will be safe. There's more delay before the explosions in EX, so unlike HM where only the row that was placed last is safe, either side row is safe enough, since you have a whole 1.5s-ish after Landslide hits before the middle bombs explode (and you can move as soon as the blue lines disappear).