Everyone seems to like to do the level 50 dungeons as fast as possible, why not have seperate que's for time trials? Que in for the dungeons with your 4 man composition of choice or force Tank/Heal/Ranged/Melee to keep things even, then try to beat your personal record, the server record and possibly all worlds record of the dungeons.
I think this would be great fun to do while farming myth/philo/(insert new tome here). Especially the overgeared bored players. Maybe give vanity items or horizontal progression to the players that hit the Par time or even get their own server record.
Tell me what you think.
Something easy to fun to implement, -- Time Trials --.
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03-08-2014, 06:49 PMProvokeSomething easy to fun to implement, -- Time Trials --.
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03-08-2014, 06:57 PMCrimson-Falcon
this will support speed runs which SE dont want
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03-08-2014, 07:54 PMDuuude007
They mentioned once that if they did speed run related content in the future, the reward would be strictly achievement related. So once you had pulled off a time trial in a specific place, you would not be forced to do it there again.
I DO like this concept, as it is a fair balance between all or none. That said, it has been over a year since they addressed the matter, I am anxious to see if they still have plans for this in the foreseeable future. I would be disappointed if they walk back these plans and eliminate such incentive-tied challenges. -
03-08-2014, 07:58 PMCuurad
time trial modes? *sign*
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03-08-2014, 08:02 PMProvoke
Wow, sad playbase.
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03-08-2014, 08:17 PMNaiser
No thanks. FF14 should be an MMORPG, not an MMO Arcade Game...
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03-08-2014, 08:37 PMProvokeUh wow, yeah, because that would become the entire game right, time trails.Quote:
Originally Posted by Naiser
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03-08-2014, 08:59 PMDelsai
Time trials have a positive and a negative.
Positive: Better rewards, possibility of mounts.
Negative: Newer players would be singled out for not going fast enough. Everyone would expect a speedy completion. -
03-09-2014, 12:47 PMReiryuu
Quoted just to address the point, I don't mean to direct my comments towards you specifically:
Problem is, people are already in such a big ass hurry to finish content anyway, I'm really rather tired of it. Look at all the people complaining in the thread about Ifrit EX regarding the mechanic where you can't burn him during the final nail phase. Speed runs are already a thing, something like this implemented would only make it worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delsai
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03-09-2014, 12:51 PMNaytoSo you think BLM burn parties are fun? Because I find them boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Provoke
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03-09-2014, 01:55 PMjarsI think this would reduce the effects of #2 actually, provided there is a separate queueQuote:
Originally Posted by Delsai
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03-09-2014, 02:14 PMDoo
Everything fun promotes elitism.
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03-09-2014, 03:25 PMRyuko
Time trials existed in 1.0, but there were two parts of the trial. If you defeated the dungeon within a reasonable amount of time, you were given an achievement and an extra chest for completing it within a certain amount of time. That extra chest contained the gear everyone was after, though I forget exactly WHICH darklight pieces could be obtained from there. Then there was an EVEN FASTER time trial for the relic quest. If all of the people in your group didn't play perfectly (and didn't have MULTIPLE jobs to push through a dungeon at the fastest speed possible), you wouldn't make the time trial. You needed to complete each of the required two dungeons THREE times to get the items to continue your relic quest. Legacy players who got the achievement for opening all five chests in each dungeon still have that achievement -- and it can't be obtained again.
Buuuuuut... 1.0 had a few drastic differences.
First, they were placing arbitrary limitation on content to slow down progression. They were already working on 2.0 and didn't want 1.0 players to complete relic quests too fast (that's why the hamlet requirement existed). Second, they allowed people to switch jobs in dungeons... So, in AV for example, people would go BLM for the first boss and MNK for the second boss (most effective jobs at the time). In 2.0, they took away this possibility, because they want the game to be more friendly toward casuals who only want to gear ONE job. I remember the 'having more than one class at 50' requirement was brutal for a lot of people who just didn't have the time to do that. I lucked out because I was the static WHM and solo-healed everything so I didn't need any other jobs.
Will they introduce time trials in 2.0? Maybe. But, I don't think we'll get any real REWARD from it outside of a shiny achievement, maybe a minion. I think even a mount would be stretching it a bit for the mission statement of this game. Would I like those things? Sure... but I am also trying to be realistic. SE has introduced many measured to counteract the class stacking that occurred in 1.0, such as the LB bar filling slower. -
03-17-2014, 08:22 PMProvokeDamn 1.0 sounds pretty awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryuko
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03-17-2014, 08:50 PMDelsai1.0 was a financial disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Provoke
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03-17-2014, 08:51 PMWilan
This maybe won't contribute mich to the discussion, but...
No. -
03-17-2014, 09:47 PMKirinichibon
I would support daily/weely record time rewards for certain guildhests but never for dungeons.