HIDDEN MYSTERY

SE needs to work on adding hidden areas with hidden loot, soundtrack and unknown enemies we haven heard of yet and NOT ADVERTISE IT. Id like to explore and find stuff no one knows about yet. I Hate the way everything is layed out right in your face. theres no mystery to this game. I remember having to find maps to areas in 11. In 14 you get maps to everything right from the start.

this way you say "OH Cr*P" everytime you find something new.

I love the hidden stuff they have in the game. Like the [spoiler] in [spoiler]? Oh man the first time I saw that I was like holy [spoiler]!

But yeah I don't want to ruin it for you.

Yeah. Actually, I was on vent having that exact conversation with a friend of mine. How if you didn't KNOW what/where Crawler's Nest was....you were kind screwed. Party flag up...check, tell sent asking if you want in...check, "Come to CN" .. "What's CN?" ... "Crawler's Nest" .. "Where's that?" ... Silence. Party invite gone. It was kind of amazing. You had to work hard and actually pay attention to shit around you. I miss it.

Frankly, while I don't want my hand held, I do like having a bit of guidance. You miss struggling to actually get somewhere? Is your brain wired properly? Don't hand it to me on a silver platter, of course, but struggling to figure out anything is like trying to study calculus with a learning disability.

Good luck with that...most people want their hands held the entire way through, and will then complain about the lack of challenge and unique content.

It's a crazy MMO market my friend.

the thing is most NEW spoiled gamers these days are dumber than a rock (no offence to the rock) and are too lazy to put in SOME work. SE realizes this so they must appease these morons to keep up player base..

/sit
/smoke
/relax

Wow odd, I was saying this to my friends during my FFXI days that i wish there were places like holes in the ground that you drop through but cant see and there'd be a whole cave underneath that no one knew about because the hole was so small and places in a far and hidden away part of a zone that no one needs to go to.

Meh, go explore Mor Dhona, lots of cool stuff, Ogres, etc

Hidden instances would be awesome. some kinda thing like, when your wandering around one of thoes random caves that have fishing spots, you would suddenly enter an instance and be attacked by a challenging mob or run into secret bosses or something. or maybe some treasure hunting system that you have to find some shady NPC that gets you into the treasure hunting biz that gets you into some indiana jones-like situations.

it wouldnt be hidden or a mystery for long. once word got out it would be like that "hidden camp" in crawlers nest.
i like the idea but i feel like its a 3 second high if that.

Not trying to say FFXIV should copy this from another MMORPG, but I'll still talk about it because I think it's a great example of what I expect from exploring(not gonna say a name here):

There is a game out there, in which you can explore some desert.
So while you search for hidden relics you can sell for money or trade in for exp and items, sometimes you find a sandspout instead of a relic, and if you don't manage to run away fast enough, you are thrown into some cave under the desert.
This cave is an unbelievably huge maze and it's really hard to find the exit, even after some people walked through it again and again to make a complete map, because places just look the same, and you can't view a full map of the place but just a small circle around you (like the FFXIV minimap). The only thing hinting on where you are is the color of the floor, which is getting darker as you are getting closer to the exit.
The whole cave is filled with monsters; bats, mini sandworms, bugs, etc., some of them aggressive.
While this sounds not very nice, the cave also has special features.
There are "doors" you can only open after doing whatever these doors want from you, like for example healing someone in front of the door, using a certain item, etc.
Behind these doors are treasure chests, so it's rewarding.
There are also some special monsters down there who are a lot like the NM in FFXIV, which drop items you can't get anywhere else.
While wandering around, you sometimes stumble across a hole in the ground and may decide to jump down, which will either get you closer to the exit or drops you to some random place inside the cave and you have to start finding your way all over again.

So yeah. While it is dangerous and creepy, it's also filled with suspense and even may be rewarding.
And that's how it gets interesting for players to explore the world ;)

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Originally Posted by slipmac

it wouldnt be hidden or a mystery for long. once word got out it would be like that "hidden camp" in crawlers nest.
i like the idea but i feel like its a 3 second high if that.

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Thats part of the fun, that word spreads. whats that called, oh yeah, COMMUNITY.
even though hidden crawler nest and other great camp spots location were shared, it was still really exciting to visit those places.
whats that called...
oh yeah... exploration and ADVENTURE.
^^d

I remember first finding the secret beach in the dunes in FFXI, no one told me about that, as far as I know before I found it myself I had no idea about it.

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Originally Posted by MattyWS

I remember first finding the secret beach in the dunes in FFXI, no one told me about that, as far as I know before I found it myself I had no idea about it.

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lol. love that too.

then you ask your ls mates... "um... ya... thats the 'secret' beach'.

Random chests in random caves which depop and reappear all over the world would be hot. But what would be in them? Gil? Lol...

Random instanced encounters might be interesting...Like walking around in Thanalan and an antlion comes up from the ground...Or a hippogryph that swoops down on you in Coerthas.