90k d/c out of control tonight..no rage?

I'm surprised at the lack of rage on the forums over the random 90k issues in instances. A lot of people in game are complaining, and I myself have been 90ked 3 times in CT, each time on the final boss.

Is this not a widespread issue? It certainly isn't on my end with this many people complaining. I've seen limited talk about it in the tech support forum but none here.

Is anyone else experiencing this? Does SE know its still happening despite supposedly being fixed?

It can't be "fixed" without putting in more money than would be worth it.

Do you even know what is 90k error?

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

Do you even know what is 90k error?

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Do you?

/10char

I suppose it's because it's still rather early in the "Coil night" that we haven't seen anything pop up. However, I did get 90k'd right when we finished T2 and before we could even open the second loot chest, thus losing both as we were kicked outside upon logging back in. Surprisingly enough, I'm not too worked up about not getting that loot.
Given the nature of these forums, I'm quite surprised that nobody's thrown a temper tantrum about it yet. Wait a few hours, something's bound to come up though.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

Do you?

/10char

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Obviously, it's a Disconnection popup caused by network interruption. it's not even an error in the first place, "90k" is just a code.

I don't understand why people are complaining to SE about it, it's not their fault for FFS, it could possibly your ISP having problems connection to SE's network or vice versa, but I don't think it's the latter, as the players who seemed to be affected by this are the players who play from NA / EU. I rarely see anyone from JP data center or from SEA region who have this problem.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

I don't understand why people are complaining to SE about it, it's not their fault for FFS, it could possibly your ISP having problems connection to SE's network or vice versa, but I don't think it's the latter, as the players who seemed to be affected by this are the players who play from NA / EU. I rarely see anyone from JP data center who have this problem.

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It's because it's specifically an issue with the Primal data center. People have been dealing with frequent disconnects every monday for the past few weeks. All we can do is let them know so that they can split up the data centers more since it is likely a server load issue (Primal has, for some insane reason, both of the heaviest populated Legacy servers) or so they can stop designing their content in such a way that people have to get it done at the start of the week.

I know if Coil didn't force you to do do it in order my FC wouldn't rush to do it ASAP. We have to get it out of the way early or we won't have much time during the weekend to practice Turn 5. If we could do it in any order we would spread it out throughout the week.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

I don't understand why people are complaining to SE about it, it's not their fault for FFS, it could possibly your ISP having problems connection to SE's network or vice versa, but I don't think it's the latter, as the players who seemed to be affected by this are the players who play from NA / EU. I rarely see anyone from JP data center or from SEA region who have this problem.

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A problem isolated to the NA/EU data centers whose servers are located in Canada doesn't affect the servers located in Japan! More news at 11.

You're right, there are many possible sources for 90k, but when people have played without any problems for months and then all of the sudden get hit by a string of 90ks followed by notices of acknowledgement (http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d0ab5b1300a64a, http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a1cf2e0e807813), that points more to the data centers being the issue and not the ISPs.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

I know if Coil didn't force you to do do it in order my FC wouldn't rush to do it ASAP. We have to get it out of the way early or we won't have much time during the weekend to practice Turn 5. If we could do it in any order we would spread it out throughout the week.

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The main issue isn't groups like yours. It's groups that can easily do it on other days, but won't.

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Originally Posted by Estellios

It's because it's specifically an issue with the Primal data center. People have been dealing with frequent disconnects every monday for the past few weeks. All we can do is let them know so that they can split up the data centers more since it is likely a server load issue (Primal has, for some insane reason, both of the heaviest populated Legacy servers) or so they can stop designing their content in such a way that people have to get it done at the start of the week.

I know if Coil didn't force you to do do it in order my FC wouldn't rush to do it ASAP. We have to get it out of the way early or we won't have much time during the weekend to practice Turn 5. If we could do it in any order we would spread it out throughout the week.

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Uh, this happens on Aether Data Center too.

This has been an off and on thing for me for several weeks now. Saw tons of disconnects tonight in CT and just in town. I would really like to be able to play the game without having to worry about when my next 90k is going to occur.

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Originally Posted by Thorauku

I don't understand why people are complaining to SE about it, it's not their fault for FFS, it could possibly your ISP having problems connection to SE's network or vice versa

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White knight is strong in this one. Are you trying to tell me that entire primal data center who had no problems until recently suddenly got poor ISP, therefore they're getting the errors?

Just for info, it was not isolated to Na/eu. Masamune n several other everyone crash n dc at reset with 90 k past couple of weeks too n can't log in from 15 min to an hour. Just lazy post is all.

Never had issues, with the game, never. And just now I got kicked trice in 30 minutes. Not in a populated area, not in a dungeon. But while doing quests on my Pugulist in little ala mhigo... this is ridiculous
EDIT: Make that 5 in 40 minutes...

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Originally Posted by ispano

The main issue isn't groups like yours. It's groups that can easily do it on other days, but won't.

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/sarcasam on

ya... the main issue is that players play on the day they want to play.

the main issue is surely not SE's lack of server power or SE's lack of finding a solution to fit the game they designed (FFXIV: A Monday Reborn).

/sarcasm off

Love that logic!

getting 90k? just dont log in its not SE's fault doh!
In fact, not just 90k, any kind of error, just dont log in, cause you know, its not SE's fault that you want to play, right? you only pay 10$ a month for it anybody can afford it so its ok to not be able to play a day every week right? right??


Amazing.

What do you mean monday? I see no one around atm. I have been kicked out 12 times in the last 2/3 hours. Just doing quests in unpopulated area's. This is BS.

Doublepost, but I don't give a darn. I am trying to do regular quests in east shroud with my pugulist. Trying to combo, or maintain my greased lighting is not possible. Hits show on screen, but don't register at all in the battle screen. Using an item omn mobs since the quest requires you to also does not work. Doing said quest, the Blood price, took me 20 minutes, during that time I was kicked out 4 times.
This needs to be adressed and fixed fast. Not being able to do coil or long dungeon's CT I can manage for a short time. But not even able to do normal quests... sorry square, you have got work to do.

Having 90k at least two times per day... annoying.

One of the statics in my FC were all kicked out of T3 with 90k's. At the same time i was trying to access my retainer and it took over a minute for the menu to show up.

It's the hell today. Lol

this morning, 20 error 90k in less than 4h, worst than yesterday

doing a ping on the server ip give some info like 25% packet loss , same with vpn

Me and my entire FC, along with everyone who was doing dungeons with us kept disconnecting for entire day. I guess we're in for yet another maintenance. Sigh.

I never get 90k.

http://media.giphy.com/media/43VhxnrEOQ44U/giphy.gif

Yeah keep telling yourself that 90k is ALWAYS SE fault.. lolz.

I never 90k'd due to SE, i 90k because modem is close to my feet and i sometimes knock it over.

90k is pretty much connection lost, it can be from any source.



But here people use 90k like some Americans use the word "communism" and "socialism" lol

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Originally Posted by Synapse

Yeah keep telling yourself that 90k is SE fault.. lolz.

I never 90k'd due to SE, i 90k because modem is close to my feet and i sometimes knock it over.

90k is pretty much connection lost, it can be from any source.



But here people use 90k like some Americans use the word "communism" and "socialism" lol

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Keep telling us it isn't?

4 times on the front page yesterday alone. Notice the bolded parts. This leads us to believe there is a bug or issue of some nature in the server code that is causing the servers to fail in some way and drop connections. They haven't fixed it yet, and appear to just be using the same bandaid fix over and over.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a63da1c7ae6c7d
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...a80066915e7e04
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...07b83559b0d5b5
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...d0ab5b1300a64a

[Recovery] Recovery from Primal Data Center Technical Difficulties (Mar. 3)


At the following time, we experienced technical difficulties wherein certain players on the Primal data center Worlds were disconnected from certain instances.

We are pleased to announce that the issue has been addressed. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

[Date & Time]
Mar. 3, 2014 at around 8:47 p.m. (PST)

[Details]
- Players were disconnected from certain instances.

[Cause]
- Server program error

[Affected Worlds]
Primal Data Center Worlds
- Behemoth
- Brynhildr
- Diabolos
- Excalibur
- Exodus
- Famfrit
- Hyperion
- Lamia
- Leviathan
- Malboro
- Ultros

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Originally Posted by Synapse

Yeah keep telling yourself that 90k is SE fault.. lolz.

I never 90k'd due to SE, i 90k because modem is close to my feet and i sometimes knock it over.

90k is pretty much connection lost, it can be from any source.



But here people use 90k like some Americans use the word "communism" and "socialism" lol

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Because there is food on your table, there is no world hunger

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Originally Posted by Synapse

Yeah keep telling yourself that 90k is SE fault.. lolz.

I never 90k'd due to SE, i 90k because modem is close to my feet and i sometimes knock it over.

90k is pretty much connection lost, it can be from any source.



But here people use 90k like some Americans use the word "communism" and "socialism" lol

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When it's isolated it's probably not them. When it's your entire group it's obviously their problem. When it's your entire server one day of the week it's them hands down.

This is called logic or a little something known as occums razor.

For someone with a white knight attitude you sure do have a non white knight Sig.

Also move your modem.

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Originally Posted by Tears-of-Death

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Im not a white knight, im just critical of the game, both good and bad about it. Can look at my post history, as of recent im usually against the game direction.

yeah, whole group i understand, but i see if often when someone DC's and comes back.. "%&*$% SE.. they need to fix their shtz".. like i keep telling people, just because you DC, it is not always SE.


It is always easier to think SE's the reason i got into plumes or i DC'd during Titan, there is lot of emotions going on in the fight.

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Originally Posted by KupoNuts

White knight is strong in this one. Are you trying to tell me that entire primal data center who had no problems until recently suddenly got poor ISP, therefore they're getting the errors?

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Except, there's been connection issues for as long as this game has been running and it's already been pinpointed to Level3/Tata/Sky, which means it could actually be possible the route Primal goes through is extra faulty currently. Which means it's not 100% SE or the game, it's an obvious connection issue and SE doesn't run any of the ISPs that handles the data solutions for this game.

So we already know it's not 100% SE's fault, there's so much they can do when another company is at fault and if you know anything about business, it's not something you can just up and walk out of contractually.

I can attest to it being after the 2.16 patch for sure. Rarely got 90k now it's about once a day if not more. With or without ping zapper it still is the same on my end.

On Balmung I haven't personally been 90k'd at all, but I have noticed some people having a lot of problems in our FC lately. Could it be another level3 type scenario?

I just tried to do Coil T5 for almost 2 hours, 90k'd every time. It's the first time since EA that I've had this problem.

Funny how it seems to happen MOST on MONDAY.

Damn my cable company specifying slacker days on the first part of the week here...and well, there, and in lots of NA/EU places, apparently.

When life beats you around a bit, you learn to dream a bit smaller" xD
People just got used to it haha